VHI and that one

As I’ve been quite busy avoiding everything in life but the very small bit of I need to concetrate on, would it be fair to say VHI complaining about having to provide insurance cover for more elderly people is a bit much considering these were the customers they were happy to fleece when they had total monopoly on private health care?

Our hospitals are fucked though. When this government falls and we cast down fire and brimstone on Cowen and Lenihan, Bertie and McCreevy, don’t forget what the Minister for Harney, Private Healthcare and Misdiagnosis achieved in all those years.

Unprecedented prosperity and all she did was create a bureaucratic monolith filled with pencil pushers and administrators and did little or nothing to improve healthcare for the people of Ireland. We have highly paid consultants coming out of our holes but don’t even bother try to get seen in an A&E unless you bring a couple of books, a sleeping bag and some canned food to keep you going.

Throwing red paint over her might not have been much of a protest but if and when you find yourself at the mercy of our understaffed and broken health service you might feel she deserved a bit more than that.

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  1. itchybollix says:

    Harney the spoofer.

    When she sent a text message to John Gormley stating that ” a bad day in power is much better than a good day in opposition” she showed her true colours. All she cares about is power.

    She propped up a corrupt government – her stance on Ray Burke when Bertie the Cunt said that Rambo was clean was fucking laughable ” I asked Bertie Ahern and he told me that everything weas ok”. And you believed that slithery shit? We don’t believe you you spoofing wretch.

    She and Bertie Ahern deserve each other. Two horrible, vile cunts who did all they did for their own personal gain. Public servants my fucking hole.

    Once a memeber of a corrupt Fianna Fail party, always a member of a corrupt Fianna Fail party

    Des O’Malley must be very proud of Mary Harney, the spoofing cunt. She’ll walk soon too with a bag load of money, that’s what she likes. And NASA hair-do’s on her snatch.

  2. sheepshagger says:

    Babylon had it’s whore.
    We’ve got Fat Mary.

  3. Fill3rup says:

    I’d wish a long slow painful and fatal disease on Harney(lord knows my cuntapult wont be able to carry her weight,let alone fling her ,on fire,into the Atlantic) but Lord knows she would be shipped off to some Swiss Gene therapy clinic to have a soul transfusion..

    she would not have to spend one second in an A&E dept..

  4. sheepshagger says:

    I hope she goes the same way as her role model
    Thatcher.When given the choice between Boston
    or Berlin she chose the former and has left us
    with a health system motivated by profit and
    run by people who will close a ward in order
    to pay for a new carpet in the boardroom.

  5. Action Man says:

    She got that position with four and a half thousand first preference votes.

    Those fuckwits have a lot to answer for.

  6. Harney … I think the only reason the HSE was set up was to provide a ditch between the public and her ministry. How many times has she used the old deflector shield on an issue; ‘that is a matter for the HSE’.

    Handy when your philosophy around national health is to deliberately run it down so that people will be ready for the ‘private health care will fix it’ line of bullshit.

    There’s a term in economics called ‘managed obsolesence’ and I suspect thats whats been behind her tenure at Health all along.

    I recall hearing on the radio around 2007 elections that she had demanded to be allowed to continue at Health as a condition of her support for the coalition. The only reason she’d do that is because (a) she has her moat set up called the HSE to blame for everything (b) it suits her and her husband’s politics to run the health service down through carefully planned mismanagement so that the plebs demand change- which her husbands pals have wrapped up in pretty paper waiting in the wings.

    I’m well aware she is prepared to be a dishonest bitch from her successful attempt to prejudice court proceedings against bent Fianna Failers. That was no mistake.

    S’funny Fill mentioned Switzerland- she did pay a visit there two years ago and it could have been for an EU Health Minister’s meeting in Geneva and I meant to check whether there was any such meeting as I was curious what she was doing there. Ta for the reminder.

  7. Fill3rup says:

    Lads I think ye missed the real story from todays papers..

    It wont be long before Geldoff starts a whip round..

    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/between-rock-star-and-hard-place-karla-elliott-admits-shes-broke-2487662.html

  8. boscospants says:

    my wife met a woman on crutches yesterday she fell off stool while cleaning her windows and broke her leg, so she went to the a&e around five in the evening only to be told she would be waiting at least ten hours to get a doc to look at her leg, when she said she didn’t want to wait ten hours in the waiting room she was told to go home for the night and come back in the following morning. this was on the same day that the record for patients on trolleys was broken, this is where the health service is at in this country and its a fucking disgrace.

  9. Scratcher says:

    The Banks, The Government, the fuckin water crisis, the Healthcare system, the budget,Jesus wept lads, when will the public say enough is enough, get out to the streets and shake it up. I mean an election in March, are you kidding me!! Cowen et al should have been out on their arse’s before Christmas.

    And what the fuck happened to that prick in charge of the Student Union, nothing i would imagine, still being primed by FF.

    Glad i am not living there, for all of the USAs faults it sure is a hell of a lot better than Ireland!

  10. Fill3rup says:

    People will start arming themselves going to hospital and persuade Doctors to treat them at gun point…

  11. itchybollix says:

    Wow. Karla Elliot has big knockers and a big gob. And single. I’m on the way

  12. maggot says:

    Googled Karla Elliott – not bad.

  13. Yes- I mean whats her problem? Too good for prostitution all of a sudden?

    Picky.

  14. Action Man says:

    ‘my wife met a woman on crutches yesterday’…..

    VHI Swift care, seen in under an hour.

    Consultation: €125
    X-Ray: €105
    Plastering: €60

    Is that an OK price to pay to avert what could be irreparable damage to an untreated leg and the psychological trauma of visiting some despicible A&E?

    I think so.

  15. Johnnie390 says:

    “Yes- I mean whats her problem? Too good for prostitution all of a sudden?

    Was not aware she had stopped.

  16. itchybollix says:

    Johnnie390
    January 7th, 2011 @ 1:39 pm
    “Yes- I mean whats her problem? Too good for prostitution all of a sudden?

    Was not aware she had stopped.

    excellent

  17. Holemaster says:

    Harney gets her hair done in a place called ‘Trim’ in Ballsbridge. Ironic.

  18. Action Man says:

    ‘Harney gets her hair done in a place called ‘Trim’ in Ballsbridge. Ironic.’

    Time for a stakeout!

  19. itchybollix says:

    Action Man
    January 7th, 2011 @ 2:00 pm
    ‘Harney gets her hair done in a place called ‘Trim’ in Ballsbridge. Ironic.’

    Time for a stakeout!

    She’s eat it

  20. Holemaster says:

    Mmm a Steak out in Roly’s.

  21. Holemaster says:

    Since she lost her remote control, the weight has been falling off her. But then after about three weeks it dropped out from behind her knee. So I guess it’s back to the same old.

  22. MMN says:

    Right then Mulatrons, it’s time for you to learn a few things about healthcare in Ireland that don’t originate from the Daily Star’s opinion page.

    Are you ready for this? Healthcare in Ireland is not that bad. In fact it’s quite good. 95% of people’s interactions with the health system are positive. I’m fucked if I’m going to explain why to you bozos, you all know good news doesn’t sell, and people waiting for treatment is a ‘horror’.

    Next – and you’ll love this – Mary Harney is a good Minister for Health. If you say nothing else, she managed to change the contract with the consultants which is a fucking massive acheievement. With the exception of America, Irish consultants used to be the BEST PAID DOCTORS IN THE WORLD – hence headlines like ‘how’s a doctor supposed to live on 250k a year?’

    She has changed that, albeit slowly. Why slowly? Turkeys don’t vote for christmas and doctors tend to be smart, wealthy, influential people, so they know how to protect their own interests. Not like say… miners. Or postal workers. Through the NTPF she brought waiting times down from 2 years to 3 months.

    That’s more than enough. And if any of you can point to a better Minister for Health in the last 30 years, or potentially more, I’d love to hear it. I don’t work for the HSE, the government, Mary harney, or in any healthcare role. I’m defending her because the opinions voiced on this blog about her have been plain fucking stupid.

  23. Holemaster says:

    MMN,

    She is systematically changing our system from one of public service and duty to the sick to one which is a for profit industry with virtually no input from government which leaves needy people in the hands of profiteers.

    She is a right wing free market monster who has no interest in social duty of a government towards its citizens. And the consultants deal was done to smooth the way for big business so they inherit a contract which costs them much less.

    She is a fucking shit Minister for Health and I’d love to know why you’re really supporting her.

  24. Johnnie390 says:

    Roly’s.

    Is that Roly Daniel’s place??

  25. MMN says:

    Name one better. I explained why I believe she’s good – not perfect by any means – but good. Name one who has achieved more.

  26. Holemaster says:

    Any fucking one of them are better MMN.

  27. sniffle says:

    MMN- Noel Browne did a good thing for the consumption ..

    Think Mary was always well intentioned but like other well intentioned idealists, she was never able to reorganize the regional health cartels but no one else could either.

    The truth of the thing is that her expenses carry on, consorting in chateaus owned by the mcevaddy brothers and use of the jet just pissed everyone of.

  28. MMN.

    I’d like to help with your question about Harney’s achievements with the Irish health service.

    In order for me to name a better Health Minister anywhere I’d have to understand what you mean by her achievements.

    You say she has ‘dealt’ with consultants. Not when every patient in the country who presents at a doctors’ surgery is put on the little money choo-choo to see a consultant.

    Doctors in Ireland must have suffered a serious professional slump in the last few decades with the amount of ‘consultations’ needed, a system in which both doctor and consultant earn money for fuck all.

    That system is highly efficient I’ll grant you.

    But I’ll wait to see if your list and my list of Mary Harney’s achievements agree before I tackle any more you might have.

    If you know Mary Harney, or are connected with her in some way, or are merely some Fianna Fail tosser trying to defend Mengele in knickers I suggest you go and commit suicide.

  29. itchybollix says:

    i read the financial times, not the daily star. I have it on good authority that MMN is mary harneys vibrator

    keeping on track; don’t see this happening here

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jan/07/david-chaytor-jailed-mps-expenses

  30. Holemaster says:

    She set up the HSE as a liquidator for the Department of Health. The DoH should be running the health service itself and not a massive Executive concerned with overhauling the system in preparation for private enterprise. She’s not centralising acute services for the benefit of the people. She’s doing it to make it a more attractive proposition for Halliburton Medical to come in and buy it up.

    She is constantly being feted by private interests and especially private health insurers. She’s been to plenty of lunches hosted by them. I am closely connected to elements of the business so I see and hear what is going on. I can only see the signs of a system and a nation being slowly turned in favour of profiteering.

    We’re fucked.

  31. itchybollix says:

    Though I’d still be in there like a shot

  32. I think thats exactly right HM- the HSE is just Mary’s cover that she hides behind. I have no doubt at all that she has a considerable interest in making sure the national health service as a resource is finished off.

    Putting a PD married to a private health lobbyist in charge of a national health system is not something that you’d get away with in a lot of countries. Developed ones anyway.

    There’s a massive and ongoing conflict of interest in this woman being Minister for Health.

  33. sheepshagger says:

    Harney inherited a health service born of a time
    when any word starting with com was branded
    communist.The church frightened the sheep with
    the ‘C’ word and scuppered any form of social
    medical provision,the medical industry found this
    very convenient and profitable and so played ball
    with the paedos by withholding family planning.
    A poor sick flock is far more susceptible to
    the superstitious claptrap than a healthy wealthy
    one.

  34. MMN says:

    Itchy, I was deep in Harney’s damp place just the other day in fact, and I met your sister. She’s not great either but I she does read FT so I gave her a go anyway.

    Cap Con – I don’t think you actually said anything there. Harney renegotiated the contract that the state has with consultants. New consultants are now paid less.

    Nobody has mentioned the reduced waiting lists either.

    Now then, Guinness O’Clock. Be well!

  35. sheepshagger says:

    By the way since Sleeveen Killeen announced his
    standing down yesterday his daughter threw her
    hat in the ring this morning.

  36. itchybollix says:

    that’s weird. My sister is a lesbian and illiterate. Must have been my mom.

  37. sniffle says:

    mmn – noel browne – you never answered this .

    he all but eradicated tb during his tenure.

    facts man

  38. itchybollix says:

    nor the conflict of interest which wouldn”t be tolerated in aany first world democracy but as we know, this a corrupt third world shithole.

    Defending Mary Harneys record as Minister for Health and Children because of small wins is akin to defending Bertie Aherns record because of the peace process – 450,000 people on the dole, sterling, dollars, euro, dig-outs, the IMF runnning the country doesn’t equalise.

    She will be shown for what she is when she refuses to stand for election. She has only her own self-interest at heart. She’s a greedy, power-hungry Fianna Fail cunt

  39. Crank says:

    So here’s how it is MMN. Take a large hammer and hit yourself as hard as you can in the left kidney. With the excruciating pain you have succeeded in applying to your lower back drag yourself to an A&E department. Wait 10 hours to be seen while you quietly bleed internally. Wait another 4 hours for x-rays and tests after which you will be sent home and told to make an appointment to see a consultant.

    Suffer with the aforementioned excruciating pain, coupled with lack of sleep and general deterioration in your quality of life for 10 months while you wait for an operation, then come back here and tell us how wonderful the health system is.

    Waiting lists – sure they’re only for the poor.

  40. Silla says:

    Hear, hear, Holey.

    A close relative of mine is a lowly “front line” worker in the health service, he has had numerous wage cuts, longer hours, abuse from the public, threats of violence, he sees a deterioration in the care given to patients, the concerns of staff are ignored, and he blames Mary Harney for all of it.
    He knows what he is talking about, as he has seen things deteriorate since the HSE was formed, they are up to their tonsils in “managers”, all of which they managed without for donkey’s years, he thought all along it was a disaster waiting to happen.
    So if the workers on the ground knew it wasn’t going to work, how can those who foisted it on us claim they still support this dying dinosaur???

    I was attending a Dublin hospital myself some time ago, and the doctor nearly fainted when I said I didn’t have private Health Insurance, conveniently forgetting that , as a tax payer, I have already PAID and continue to pay, for healthcare.
    And everything else.

  41. Silla says:

    Fuck off, MMN, you ignorant selfish me feiner.

  42. killemall says:

    Certain parties have been lobbying for years to have the HSE use generic drugs. The savings would be 1 billion a year. But because of whatever arrangements are in place with the drug companies this won’t happen. Meanwhile the private hospitals all use generic drugs as they make financial sense. It like the previous comments say; run public health care into the ground for the benefit of private care.
    this country is past it’s sell by date.

  43. Silla says:

    Some generic drugs are used, definitely.

  44. Holemaster says:

    MMN, your banging on about waiting lists is like saying Schindler managed to save a few hundred Jews from the gas chambers.

  45. Yeah I went looking for MMN’s improvement in waiting lists reports but couldn’t find them as they were obscured by hallways full of fucking trolleys.

    And as I’m sure MMN knows hospital waiting lists are just about the easiest thing in the world to fiddle.

  46. Christy says:

    True Cap’n. See NHS. You have to actually be on a waiting list to count. If the waiting list target is 3 months all you do is close the list when it’s full for the next 3 months. Bingo no waiting lists are longer than 3 months, target met.

  47. Crank says:

    Here we are, from my own research. Sorry for being so long-winded:

    On February 1st 2010 the prices of long-established medicines were to be reduced in price, a move welcomed by the Irish Pharmacy Union, the representative body for 1,800 community pharmacists.

    http://www.ipu.ie/more-news/559-pharmacists-welcome-ipha-deal-.html

    It was also hailed as a victory by Mary Harney and the H.S.E.

    However, on attempting to purchase one of the generic drugs from the list of reduced medecines I discovered the following:

    ByLans 30mg – on the H.S.E. list to retail at €17.97, retailing in the pharmacy at over €43.00.

    (This is only one of a number of examples).

    When I contacted the helpline number on the list of reduced drugs [(1890) 876 700], which is funded and run by the Irish Pharmaceutical Healthcare Association who represent the drug manufacturers, they told me the price list is correct. The H.S.E. Corporate Pharmaceutical Unit also said that the price list is correct and denied the claim by the drug wholesalers, HELSINN BIREX, that the price was incorrect.

    There is a dispute between the wholesalers Helsinn Birex Pharmaceuticals Dublin and the H.S.E. that no one will admit to and, basically, the Irish Pharmaceutical Healthcare Association and the H.S.E. Corporate Pharmaceutical Unit both lied to me about the price list being correct.

    So, firstly, we have a price list that is incorrect being touted as correct by the above mentioned.

    Secondly, the prices listed only allow for a 20% markup by the pharmacists. In practice it actually works like this: There is a 50% markup by the pharmacists UNTIL you spend over €120.00 on the Drug Payment Scheme (DPS). The markup is then reduced to 20%. The consumer has to trust the pharmacist that this reduction will be passed on when appropriate.

    Thirdly, the price also includes a dispensing fee for the pharmacist of between €3.50 and €5.00. The reason that an exact figure is not given is because the dispensing fee changes on a sliding scale according to how many drugs the pharmacist has dispensed in a month. No one has been able to explain to me how this is policed and if it means that the consumer should expect a reduced price at the end of the month as compared to the beginning. Another system hugely open to abuse, I imagine.

    The solution would be to make pharmacists itemise all of the above in their receipts: wholesale cost of medicine; their markup; the dispensing fee being levied, but no one seems to be pushing for this.

    It would be interesting to know why the relevant bodies are lying about the price list, not admitting to a dispute, and how they explain the lack of transparency from all concerned.

    The Irish Pharmacy Union is at: http://www.ipu.ie/home.html

    The Irish Pharmaceutical Healthcare Association ‘checkthelist’ number is: (1890) 876 700

    The HSE Corporate Pharmaceutical Unit is: 01 – 6352672.

  48. Tomo says:

    She’s an arrogant, incompetent, self-serving, worthless excuse for a human being. The true face of fianna fail. An evil traitor to the people of this country.

  49. Silla says:

    Mary Harney always looks like a cornered rat, as if she’s expecting to be attacked at any moment.

    Nice to know she was right about something, at least.
    She is the most loathed woman in the country, bar none.

    And in a country which is home to Sinead O’Connor and Mary McAleese, that’s saying something!

  50. Holemaster says:

    Thanks for that bit of work Crank.

  51. Silla says:

    The Treatment Purchase Scheme that is supposed to be available to anyone waiting longer than 3 months ( or 6 months I think it has been changed to lately) is kept a secret from patients, and the only way most people find out about it is if they know someone who did it, or they read about it somewhere.
    Then they have to do all the research themselves.

    GPs and hospitals never mention it to their patients, they won’t answer questions about it, they act all miffed if it’s mentioned to them.

    So, obviously, their noses are out of joint with whatever deal was made, and they have been cut out of the money.

  52. itchybollix says:

    good work indeed crank

    on a differnet note – i have a goo on me. silla? you’re married aren’t you? If not; whaddya doing later? (twentymajor dating.com)

  53. Nice bit of journalism there on the pricing caper on pharmaceuticals Crank…

  54. Johnnie390 says:

    “good work indeed crank

    on a differnet note – i have a goo on me. silla? you’re married aren’t you? If not; whaddya doing later? (twentymajor dating.com)”

    Bloody cheek!

  55. Silla says:

    Itchy, you flatterer!

    I have a date with that hunk of burning love Ryan Tubridy.

    I hope he wears the grey suit tonight, it matches his complexion.

    Happy hunting, Itchy!

  56. Johnnie390 says:

    With a name like that Ryan …. and that mammy’s boy look hmmmm.

    I know some Legionnaires who have leave soon from French Guiana – have been in the steaming jungles for six months and not a juicy arse in sight. Now those garcons are hungry and would like to meet you sweet Ryan…..

  57. itchybollix says:

    heh. he’s a sap.

    i now have good feelings about this year. last night and late this sfternoon things took a turn for the better with people and work areas. hence my goo. where’s otd when you need him. tell him i’m buying

    send them to donnybrook and set them loose on his audience too johnie

    having a nice year twentymajor people. except mmn, leave my mom alone.

    music

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJEWjtRd6hQ

  58. You are stoned as well I’d say. I’ve a plump dutch-dutch on the go myself and it definitely does make years look better I can confirm.

  59. itchybollix says:

    no captain, i wish i was. last night i got a date; todauy i got a contract. there is a steak sizzling away, janelle monae is boogeying on and in an an hour or two i’m strolling down the raod to keelings or up the road to smyths and the jukebox for pint whether my friends are around or not. i will be in london in the summer and have a pint with you….think you are in london?

  60. Silla says:

    Happy days, Itchy.

    Keep up the good work!

  61. itchybollix says:

    Gibneys, here is your two minute warning. I’m on the way

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ham6vFy8v2I

    oh. wait. there’s a train leaving at 8.35 and the next train leaves at 10.40

    didn’t the greens say they’d sort out this archaic train driving set-up? friday night in the capital of the third world shitlhole and there’s a train every 2 hours.

    three cheers for the greens and their input into improving public transport.

  62. maggot says:

    If Harney lost a few stone she’d be …..

  63. Silla says:

    …still the biggest wagon in Ireland.

  64. MMN says:

    Good work crank. The rest of you are still idiots though.

    Drug prices can be found in a publication called MIMS. The reason that generic drugs cost so much in ireland, compared to elsewhere – indeed the reason all drugs cost so much – is because big pharma employs so many people here, directly and indirectly. The main purpose of IPHA is to negotiate how much the state will pay the drug companies for drugs, and because of the drug companies’ strong position as employers, they basically demand a higher price.

    Why not immediate reference pricing? (this is where the generic equivalent cost is all the consumers will be refunded, so if they want to buy a brand, they pay the difference themselves). Again, the answer is the drug companies – or it was until recently because guess who introduced generics? Your dear friend Mary Harney.

    So why are drugs STILL more here? The real answer is the greedy fucking pharmacists, who by the way, no-one will speak up about because of their place in the value chain. So let’s say Pfizer’s Viagra costs 20 euro, and the generic equivalent costs 10c. What happens is the pharmacists mark up the price of the generic to be 19.95. That way if they sell a generic, they make a fortune. This is NOT to be confused with the general mark-up they are permitted to make on sales of GMS (medical card) items.

    So what has Harney done now? Well let’s say 10 companies make viagra. Now they all have to pitch a price (very roughly around 40% of the old price) and see how they compare to their competitors. The HSE will then take the best 5 prices, average them, and only those 5 will be reimbursed by the state. So now it’s down to the drug companies to pitch it right and in theory that should drive price down and down, but in practice the dodgy bastards will probably price fix.

    The waiting lists info is all held by the National Treatment Purchase Fund. As many have said, things happen faster with private health insurance, but then the NTPF isn’t for private patients, its for public patients.

    Another good thing about harney. When the woman in Ballyfermot threw red paint on her, she still stuck around to do whatever function it was she was there to do, thereby allowing all the tabloid snappers to take all the pictures they wanted. She stuck it out. Fair fucks.

    Now, who’s next with the ‘she’s so fat…’ jokes?

  65. sheepshagger says:

    For your information MMN Harney and the PDs
    are part of the pharmacy cartel.Why else would
    O’Malleys pharmacy run by a one time spokesperson
    for their union double as the PD’s constituency
    office.Managed health care – U.S.style is an
    odscenity.

  66. itchybollix says:

    I wanna talk about trains!

    But lets talk about MMN & MIMS. The fact that MMN is extolling the virtues of MIMS aka the Dow Jones Index of the pharmaceutical guide, explains it all about him. MIMS is funded by their sponsors i.e MOMS is funded by the adversisments in their product. Advertisements by the pill company. MMN you fucking corporate HARNEY idiot. Do you think we’re all fucking clueless?

    puh

  67. itchybollix says:

    ps

    what about The Irish Medical Times MMN.

    MMN and MIMS walked into a bar sucking each others mickeys.

    The barman took out a blade

  68. GLUAISTEAN says:

    YES ITCHYBOLLIX – WE DO THINK YOU ARE CLUELESS. YOU AND THE REST OF THE PADDY PATROL DRANK AND SHOVED THE WEALTH UP YOUR NOSES AND COULD NOT SEE FURTHER THAN YOUR NEXT PINT OR SNORT. YOU LIVED HIGH ON THE HOG FOR A FEW YEARS AND JEERED AT THOSE OF US WHO WERE PRUDENT AND PUT OUR MONEY TO WORK.
    WHO’S LAUGHING NOW YOU PATHETIC WASTERS! YOU ARE ALL NOW ON SHIT STREET AND LOOKING FOR YOUR MAMMY’S TO BAIL YOU OUT.
    DON’T COME KNOCKING ON ANY OF THE DOORS OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES I NOW OWN THAT WERE THE GREATEST BARGAIN I EVER GOT : )

  69. Silla says:

    God, this is what Germany must have been like before WW2, propaganda coming from every angle, misinformation sneaked into every news broadcast, a wolf in sheep’ clothing on every blog.

    Go back to whatever web you’ve spun for yourself, MMN, nobody is buying your spiel.

  70. Silla says:

    Trolls stay up late these nights, I see.

  71. Gluey is a bit like one of those Hogwarts ghosts in paintings … every now and then there’s an interjection that reminds everyone he or she is there and then everybody pretty much goes back to what they were discussing. You get used to it after a while…

    Itchy congrats on the contract, the work and so on and if you are in town drop us a pm and we’ll have a pint alright.

  72. Beyond The Pale says:

    “THAT IS A MATTER FOR THE HSE”
    will be written on Harneys gravestone

    if you stopped Harney from eating altogether we would NOT NEED an IMF/EU Bailout

    MMN

    Are you Mary Harneys husband in disguise?

  73. Johnnie390 says:

    Pray tell, what is OTD??

    Not a gentleman from the Jetfoil perhaps?

  74. Johnnie390 says:

    I presume Bitchy Ollix resides in Malahide from his pub name dropping. Is Malahide beyond the Pale??

  75. Fill3rup says:

    MMN for someone that has no connection with the HSE/Harney etc.. You seem to be getting very worked up about what we think of the cunt..
    The fact is that you can spout that shit on here,but it doesnt mean that the commenters on here are idiots..

    I see the hecklers are on today too..

    Like the 2 teenagers slaggin the Priests on that Priest chatback line sketch in Father Ted..

    “Heheh..Stupid priests..”

    Harney is a shcill for the Private Health care industry (FACT)

    Unfortunately for her,she wont get to finsish her evil plan,due to FF fucking the economy up so badly..

    Also..Very convenitent that she is on Holidays during all this,and not even making a statement through her office..

    Although she wont get another Holiday now untill she fucks off for 2 weeks somewhere nice and hot for Paddys day…

  76. on the dry says:

    mary harney has a drink in ashtons of clonskeagh shes a fucking cunt

  77. Johnnie390 says:

    Slightly topical here –

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/89793

    The German translation of “Harn” is Urine and all things associated with same.

  78. Tomo says:

    You’re delusional MMN- what exactly are you trying to say? That Mary Harney is good at her job? She’s SHIT at her job. That she’s a decent person? A decent person would admit the the damage and misery they’re causing/ have caused by their ineptitude and step down- i.e., she’s a fungus. And no fat jokes from me, there’s no need to slag her off about how she looks. She’s like a bad punchline from a bad joke, except that her arrogance has actually cost people their lives. And I’ll bet she sleeps like a baby at night, no concept of conscience.

  79. itchybollix says:

    I LOVE YOU GLUAISTEAN, are you in London too? You seem to be good fun. But just to correct you on something. I never jeered anybody for being prudent – Harney and McCreevy did that when they swanned about europe telling the french and germans how to do things, but they ain’t me. Don’t confuse the ruling class with us peasants. And look who had the last laugh, the germans and the french. And oh how they ensured we cried, with the compliance of the CLUELESS Lenihan, not me. A lot of people put their money to work in irish bank shares and it’s all gone. I’ve made my point clear before on that and I repeat it – Still no arrests. If you lived in Ireland and escaped that trap Gluey you’d be a very lucky man/woman.

    As for “name-dropping”. dunno what the fuck that’s about, i’m just telling you’s where I hang out so that if anyone is at a loose end and has a goo on them they know where to go to meet up. Or, as the case seems to be with some, not meet up.

    Céad míle fáilte

  80. itchybollix says:

    buy guinness and solpadine shares. me fucking head.

  81. on the dry says:

    time for stout itchy

  82. sheepshagger says:

    Don’t worry Itchy if Wankstain bought to rent
    here he’ll find out soon enough how badly
    Irish cowboys build.His investment is losing
    value as we speak especially now with the bad
    weather.

  83. Johnnie390 says:

    Bitchy,

    might take you on that sometime, you sound like like an interesting character. I am ninety minutes flying time from your location, so I am not back that often. Last year, I was back quite a few times, for funerals, unfortunately.

    Johnnie-cum-lately

  84. Johnnie390 says:

    Correction – might take you up on that sometime..

    Apologies for the aberration.

  85. Git says:

    Apparently a calf was born in a village in Georgia recently with 2 heads.
    - A 2-faced cow, if you like.

    2032147459-calf-born-heads.jpg
    Mary Harney, yesterday.

  86. GLUASITEAN says:

    DREAM ON ITCHY, READ THROUGH SOME OF THE PAST COMMENTS WHEN YOU ALL THOUGHT THE HOGRIDE WOULD LAST FOR EVER…

    THEN PONDER ON A NICE PARCEL OF PROPERTIES THAT WILL INEVITABLY INCREASE IN VALUE AND IN THE MEANTIME A LOVELY LITTLE TAX SHELTER – HECK, I EVEN GET TO WRITE OFF ALL MY TRAVEL EXPENSES FOR VACATIONS IN IRELAND AS I AM THERE TO ‘ATTEND TO MY INVESTMENT’

    IT’S LIKE THEY SAY ITCHY – THE FIRST MILLION (OR WHATEVER INCREMENT/PROPORTION YOU PERSONALLY AIM AT) IS THE HARDEST, THEN IF YOU ARE NOT GUINNESS-GULPING,COKE-SNORTING,WORK-SHY AND PERMANENTLY ADDICTED TO LEARNED HELPLESSNESS AND DEPENDENCY ON OTHERS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOU, WHY IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER!!!

    I CAN PROMISE YOU ONE THING – THEY LAUGHED AT ME WHEN I EMIGRATED TO MAKE SOMETHING OF MYSELF BUT THEY SURE AS HECK ARE NOT LAUGHING AT ME NOW AND EVERY BEGRUDGING AND POINTLESS JEER AND SNIDE REMARK IS TOTALLY LAUGHABLE TO ME. THOSE WHO STOOD BY ME AND ARE NOW BENEFITING ACCORDINGLY… AND IT’S AMAZING ALSO THE SUDDEN DEFERENCE THAT HAS OVERCOME SOME OF THE OTHERS – MORE EGREGIOUS LICKARSES SUDDENLY RECALLING THAT THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY ‘ALWAYS KNEW I WOULD MAKE IT’.

    ENJOY WHAT I CALL’THE NEW SERFDOM’ITCHY – IT’S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER FOR YOU OR PROBABLY THREE TO FIVE GENERATIONS OF YOURS AND THE LIKE OF YOU
    : )

  87. itchybollix says:

    you appear to be unhinged.

  88. Johnnie390 says:

    Not unhinged.. stupid. Look at his English.

    Even the bairns at the hedge schools learnt better than this.

    There again, he is most likely a clean-living yankee boy. Ye gods

  89. Jo says:

    I liked it when Gluastain’s posts were shorter.

  90. sheepshagger says:

    Gluastain,wankstain,piss-stain who cares? If all
    he can do is boast about his “portfolio” he’s
    just a sad tosser.As I said before,the Irish
    cowboy builders will have left plenty of pleasant
    surprises for him.All that bile comes from somewhere
    deep down perhaps the brothers passed him around.
    Or else he’s got a very small tadger and feels
    the need to compensate.

  91. sheepshagger says:

    Or both!

  92. sheepshagger says:

    I know that I’m talking to myself here but a
    thought occured to me.
    The person who told me that Biffo was holed up
    in Farmleigh thought that a lot of posters to
    this type of blog were cops.He had not heard about
    Twenty and I told him that I did not get that
    feel off the majority of you.Perhaps Skidmark
    and MMN are agent provocateurs? Loco is just
    ball-hopping and Alfie,well Alfie is just Alfie.

  93. Silla says:

    Sheepy, you’re under arrest, anything you say will be totally ignored and we will hold nothing against you, except our warm uniformed bodies.

  94. sheepshagger says:

    Silla you’d make an old man happy!

  95. stipes says:

    I liked it when Gluastain’s posts were shorter.

    nice one

  96. sheepshagger says:

    Can anybody tell me what Gluastain means?
    I assume it’s Irish for something.

  97. itchybollix says:

    0. Silla
    January 8th, 2011 @ 10:49 pm
    Sheepy, you’re under arrest, anything you say will be totally ignored and we will hold nothing against you, except our warm uniformed bodies.

    sheepy, don’t believe her. they’ll probably do this, as usual

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BEATEN,+CUFFED+%26+THROWN+IN+A+CELL%3B+Sisters+tell+of+terror+on+the…-a088872552

  98. itchybollix says:

    i think it means sedate oh lover of sheeps

    baaaa

  99. itchybollix says:

    it means car dolly. he could be ruttgaue hauer in the hitcher

  100. sheepshagger says:

    I don’t love sheep Itchy.I got the name when I
    told a Nigerian I was going to Scotland to
    defend my title in the European Championships.
    He swallowed every word of it.Group stages,
    Welsh style,freestyle,Kerry style and so on.
    So much so that when walking in Limerick and
    I hear “Yo Sheepshagger” from passing cars
    I know that it is said with some respect -
    awe even.
    But who knows what the future will bring?
    Curiosity and all that.
    I think Gluastain is spoofing us about the
    property ownership.There is a deep rooted
    insecurity there.

  101. sheepshagger says:

    Moderation?

  102. Beyond The Pale says:

    Sheepshagger

    GLUASITEAN means CUNT in Irish

    Gluey
    Fix your caps lock for fucks sake

    The joke is getting old

  103. GLUAISTEAN says:

    HA HA HA HA HA : )

  104. Johnnie390 says:

    I see no reference to this word in my Foclóir Gaeilge Béarla.

  105. on the dry says:

    fucking dying from stout

  106. Jo says:

    What I don’t get is this though:

    all Gluastain’s posts say AHAHAHAHAH I GOT OUT AND MADE LOADS OF MONEY AND NOW I’M REALLY RICH AND COMFORTABLE AND ALL YOU GREEDY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO BE REALLY RICH AND COMFORTABLE AREN’T BECAUSE YOU WERE GREEDY AND WANTED TO BE RICH AND COMFORTABLE AND LOOK AT ME NOW AHAHAHAHAH.

    Er..?

    Plus, it’s starting to wrankle with me because I made fuck all money in the boom, I was never rich or comfortable I was always struggling and I am even more now – my debt doesn’t come from extra Mercs adn security gates and holidays, just from not being able to afford dental treatment and day to day basics. So I really wish he’d stop fucking shouting at me.

  107. Johnnie390 says:

    “fucking dying from stout..”

    Should try the (big) bottled stuff. Even better hangover.. after the tenth one of course.

  108. on the dry says:

    thanks thats a great help

  109. Johnnie390 says:

    Off-licence open near you??

    Don’t moan – slake your thirst!

  110. itchybollix says:

    i do like gluey posts and like the captaisn analogy

    he reminds me of a friend of mine who makes poits with a baseball bat when a slap would have done the job too

  111. Johnnie390 says:

    captaisn??

  112. itchybollix says:

    Brian Cowens running mate in Offaly is on the radio now expalining “a normal course of events” with regard to a golf game Cowen had with Fitzpartick and telephone call regarding Sean Quinn exposure to Anglo with Brian Cowen.

    The running mate, who’s name escapes me, is defending two discusssions that Fitzpatrick and |Cowen had, which were never disclosed before, which he was not a aprty to.

    These cunts in power are CLUELESS*

    that’s for you Gluey.

  113. Johnnie390 says:

    @On the dry

    After you have been to the off-licence, buy the guardian.

    Open your beer, smoke a spliff, read the paper and slip off for the afternoon.

    You could do worse.

  114. on the dry says:

    might go for a pint of cider

  115. Johnnie390 says:

    Dont’t forget the newspaper.

  116. sheepshagger says:

    “Plus, it’s starting to wrankle with me because I made fuck all money in the boom”

    Don’t let that wrankle Joe consider it a badge of
    honour.
    Dick Gaughan sang Ed Pickford’s “The Workers Song”
    which sums it up……

    We’re the first ones to starve the first ones to die
    The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky
    And always the last when the cream is shared out
    For the worker is working when the fat cat’s about

    I reckon most of Ireland is in the same boat Joe
    why else were the Rossport Five voted Ireland’s
    people of the year during the height of THE TIGGER
    years

  117. sheepshagger says:

    Johnie as you mention The Guardian did you
    read this?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2011/jan/08/jersey-tax-haven-nicholas-shaxson

    Bit of an eye opener which explains the wider
    problem beyond our shores.

  118. Johnnie390 says:

    Did indeed, read it yesterday. Used to live in CH for four years. Happy to be back in the EU with all of it’s warts and imperfections.

  119. sheepshagger says:

    The place never appealed to me apart from
    Needle Park in Zurich that is.
    I’d say Tell is spinning in his grave as Connolly
    is here.

  120. Johnnie390 says:

    A lot of self satisfaction in ZH. Place used to suffocate me with it’s racism and provincialism.

  121. sheepshagger says:

    Hence the popularity of heroin amongst the young.

  122. Johnnie390 says:

    Nah that’s all finished. They have cleaned that park up. Today it’s the cocaine amongst all of those spiffing young banker chaps. Money is no object.

    They also have a cosy expat speakeasy here:

    http://www.englishforum.ch

    Stomach-churning.

  123. Johnnie390 says:

    This is what a lot of “young, dynamic and successful” people spend their time doing -

    http://gnomeozurich.blogspot.com/2010/11/perils-of-making-your-money-on-buy-side.html

    What was that about Jesus and the temple?

  124. Beyond The Pale says:

    Johnnie 390
    One more reason to hate the English

    one of many

    JESUS CHRIST

  125. sheepshagger says:

    “One more reason to hate the English”

    Spoken like someone with an inferiority complex.

  126. Johnnie390 says:

    Everyone was / is “at it”

    The smell of that kind of money would debase / corrupt anyone.

  127. Beyond The Pale says:

    i apologise sheepshagger if i offended you

    i am sorry

  128. sheepshagger says:

    Johnie I looked at the forum and the first post
    was from some twattish defender of Israel nothing
    about him/her being English probably some American
    Jewish ignoramus.
    The Gnome of Zurich one was fucking Dungeons and
    Dragons you stole a minute from my life!!

  129. Johnnie390 says:

    Lot of yankees in Zurich, smelt the money also…

    lot of self-satisfied, life-is-good-to-me people in that city. Main reason I left.

  130. Johnnie390 says:

    Speaking of ZH, here are some winter pics..

    http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/0,1518,738298,00.html#ref=top

  131. Johnnie390 says:

    Long way from the VHI here.

  132. Mosheen says:

    Illiterate lesbians are my favourite kind

  133. maggot says:

    Salad poohs are so much nicer than guinness poohs.

  134. Johnnie390 says:

    “Illiterate lesbians are my favourite kind”

    I prefer intelligent women. Something meaty between their ears.

  135. ‘There is something about island life that stifles dissent. In the island goldfish bowl, you cannot hide. The ability to sustain an establishment consensus and suppress troublemakers makes islands especially hospitable to offshore finance, reassuring international financiers that local establishments can be trusted not to allow democratic politics to interfere in the business of making money.’

    And this paragraph from the link article linked by Johnnie390 explains Ireland and the IFSC and why German and Irish bankers were both basically ignoring banking regulations and routinely gambling way beyond what they would be allowed to do as an ‘onshore’ operation.

    ‘Local establishments can be trusted not to alow democratic politics to interfere in the business of making money.’

    And that neatly explains Cowen, Lendahand and Fianna Fail donors.

    Of course banking is bent and full of crooks. Its been that way since at least the 18th century. Why do you think the Gardai are struggling to find any appropriate charges for people? Because the banker’s donations make sure there are very few laws for white collar crime.

    De Valera set the place up as a theocratic oligarchy in the hope that the pope would ‘legitimise’ him (how many people know that the church can ‘legitimise’ an illegitimate child?)

    And De Valera’s successors would sell Irish people via a slave market in Algeria if they could.

  136. maggot says:

    They would be better off in Algeria …..

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