For all that’s gone on, the disastrous financial figures, the deluded or downright fallacious explanation from government, the continued disrespect shown to us by government, isn’t the blackest thing of all that we didn’t do much but sit around and moan about it?
A friend of mine from elsewhere asked why the Irish people weren’t out on the street with pitchforks. It’s a good question, especially as at this stage we can still afford pitchforks (just about).
I have to say I’m with Skinner on this one – this isn’t our mess. We didn’t bankrupt this country yet we’re expected to foot the bill. If it were a case that those responsible were being held accountable, if there was punishment for their crimes, then perhaps you could convince people that some kind of national effort is necessary and acceptable.
Yet we see Sean Fitzpatrick trying to play poor mouth, saying that he’s only got €188 a week to live on after he pays all his bills. I would punch him if I ever saw him. Firstly, at least he can pay all his bills and secondly, his wife is worth millions through some creative accounting, I’m sure. It’s a fucking hard life, Seanie. Especially as you and your cronies should be slopping out this morning.
There is a total and utter lack of accountability at the ‘top’ of Irish society. A man who parks a truck in the gates of Leinster House is arrested, charged and bailed in hours. A Taoiseach who can’t give any satisfactory explanation as to why he’s got a safe full of used notes swans around in his chauffuer driven car picking up salaries and pensions.
We redefine corrupt. Third world juntas have nothing on us. And we take it. Billions and billions of euros, numbers too ridiculous to even consider and make sense of, and nothing happens. On Prime Time last night Brian Lenihan, imbued with the overwhelming arrogance of Fianna Fail, came close to Charlie Haughey’s ‘living beyond our means’ stuff. We have to make cuts he said. We can’t continue to spend more than we take in. We have a huge deficit and something must be done about it. And the finger of blame was pointed at us. As if it were our fault and not his useless, supine government.
You got us into this mess was the insinuation. You got us into this mess and now you have to pay to get us out of it. The cheek of it.
We didn’t get us into this mess. The government did, a small band of gamblers and speculators did. We’d be better off with Paddy Power running the country. If you make a bet there and lose you don’t get your money back from punters who have never made a bet in the first place.
It was a Black Thursday, no doubt about it, but our apathy was the blackest part of all.
nobody’s on the street because nobody (me anyway) really understands what all these billions are actually going to cost or or how its going to affect us personally
I’m getting the dole at the moment, til work kicks in again. Just got means tested and switched to Jobseeker’s allowance which is $70 more a week than I was on and would have made a big difference to me this summer – they switched my payment from Wednesday to Friday- no cash for the last couple days – the letter said there’d be money there today but there isn’t. Do you think Brian Lenihan has reappropriated it?
No Tesco for me today.
Apathy is, and always has been, endemic in Irish Society. I despair for this country, I really do. It’s fucking worse than Animal Farm, those greedy, self-serving, pigs!
But what will we do?…….nothing…
Let the revolution begin with all those who gave brown envelopes to Fianna Fail councillors, for planning permission sweeteners, to build stuff that is now worthless, getting their pounds of flesh back from those whose snouts were in the trough.
Then get the criminal assets recovered of those, who reaped it when the banks were supposedly making a billion Euro a second.
There you go, a large chunk of the deficit straight back.
Piece of piss this politics stuff.
“The worst about the Irish is that they become corruptible as soon as they stop being peasants and turn bourgeois. True, this is the case with most peasant nations. But in Ireland it is particularly bad.”
Friedrich Engels, 1869
Are there going to be demos this weekend? How the fuck is it that hundreds of Irish will come out to celebrate “Arthur’s Day” i.e. a massive marketing opportunity by Diageo Ireland dressed up as a cultural event, yet nobody will go out and demonstrate about being screwed in the ass by the fat peasants who have fleeced this country? We are not just financially bankrupt in this country, we are morally and culturally bankrupt also.
well i am consumed with apathy quote from bad day at black rock’ sums it up for me
? How the fuck is it that hundreds of Irish will come out to celebrate “Arthur’s Day” i.e. a massive marketing opportunity by Diageo Ireland dressed up as a cultural event, yet nobody will go out and demonstrate about being screwed in the ass by the fat peasants who have fleeced this country?
That never occurred to me and has thoroughly depressed me.
I’m waiting for the budget.
I know it’s the wrong phrase to use, but with a bit of luck they might just go a little bit too far and people will finally wake the fuck up.
But then again, I was wrong when I thought that we were going to have a lovely summer of riots.
But I remain optimistic.
Our day will come. (Fuck the Irish language. -Another waste of money.)
The problem is: if you try to organise a protest no-one is interested, however, dress it up a little, i.e. free concert with beer and face painting you might get the crowds. Organise it on a week day and tell everyone to take off work!
I had a little protest yesterday. On the M1 going home when a police escorted motorcade (obviously with some selfimportant cunt on board, I wonder if it was Bill Clinton?)_tried to hog the entire motorway I refused to move and completely ignored the repeated requests of the motorcycle poliss man shouting in the window.
Twenty, you have nailed the whole mess perfectly in a few short paragraphs,and you know what,if every person in Ireland read it , it wouldnt make a whit of difference.The people of this country are getting everything they deserve because the politicons know they are a bunch of witless,clueless morons who wouldnt make an effort to save themselves if they were drowning,and drowning they truly are,in a financial mess caused by a few hundred criminals who ran the system here for their own greed. Nice point about the truck driver,no file being prepared for the dpp on this one,action taken straight away to teach anyone else who might be getting ideas above their station,but if enough people were to expand on his idea,who knows?.
Nobody’s out protesting, because (if you’ll excuse the tautology) nobody’s out protesting.
Kate – you sound like your pissed off with the situation: why aren’t you out with your placard / petrol bomb?
Twenty, from your Cement Truck post a few days ago – “There should be public support of his actions before he is charged with anything”. Did you go out and protest at his arrest? Try to change anything?
Of course you didn’t. No-one actually does anything because when push comes to shove we love moaning & bitching, but getting up and actually doing something is too much hassle. I don’t think it’s apathy On The Dry; I think people do care a bit. It’s just that we’re a lazy nation of indolent optimists. The glass is always half full, and as long as people have a few quid for a pint and a bit of soccer / rugby / GAA / whatever on the TV they’ll plod along.
I’m only 35 but I know people who remember the war and whose parent remember the Black N’ Tans. No sugar, no Coffee, no tea, butter vouchers, wiping their arse on newspaper, listening to the wireless, the North Strand getting the fuck bombed out of it. Civil War, brits shooting young lads because they looked crooked at them. And it was like that for centuries. No matter how bad things are now, there’s a cultural memory of just how bad things could be. And until they get that bad – or worse, we’ll sit and bitch and moan and tell jokes and drink pints and watch TV and get on with it. We’re Irish.
It’s not “right”, and it’s not “wrong”. It’s just life.
It beggars belief…
If Oirland were a company we’d just go into liquidation and then start trading again the next day as.. Ireland (Rep. of). So instead of all of the lovely people in the the world of finance getting their shekels, they’d have to sod off.
I say, get Chavez in (and he can insult as many foreign royals as he wants!). Oh, and maybe Tevez too…
We are being prepped for an absolute ass raping for the next 5-10 years and its being driven by the likes of that great irish patriot, peter sutherland and his gang of capitalist maniacs,who will make BILLIONS on the back of our misery. But hey,its not all doom and gloom,only 360 more days to “OUR” next diago day,enjoy peeps.
@Ron: And you don’t see what’s wrong with that, no? I know it’s the Irish way. Someone bumps into us on the street, our immediate reaction is to say ‘sorry’.
The French on the other hand with their history of successful AND popular (remember 1916 was not popular)revolutions would reply, ‘Hey watch it, do you mind, wat were you thinking you stupid blind bastard’ (in French of course)
Whereas an American, before the incident even occurred, would cry out loudly. ‘HEY! I’m walking here!’
Seriously, it’s not acceptable any more to just accept that the way things are the only way they can be!
There’s absolutely no leadership to instigate a revolt. Who in their right mind is going to listen to the likes of Éirigi, Sinn Féin, The Workers’ Party and their ilk? Nobody with a modicum of intelligence, that’s who.
If by some miracle someone emerged who wasn’t a complete embarrassment and an insult to our collective intelligence, that we could support with our heads held high we’d have a revolution.
I can’t think of anyone.
Maybe Bono?
(No, I’m sorry. That was a joke.)
Love that word tautology,gonna use that one for the rest of the wekend if you dont mind ,t’other ron.
wekend?? what the fuck.too much of something last night.
@Action Man. I do see what’s wrong with it. But like all coping mechanisms we developed it for a reason. We’ve been raped for centuries. Vikings, then the British ruling class, now the new Ruling Class. There have been enough “sparks” to light any tinder that may have been lying around. (remember your man who threw a petrol bomb into the Govt. buldings about a year ago?)
The long a short of it, is that we read blogs and post comments and no nothing. To quote Principal Skinner “Prove me wrong kids, prove me wrong!”
People are ready for a revolution because deep down nobody wants another fucking civil war. FF are in power because 50 of the country support them. You know what happens when 50 of the country decide to remove a govt. that the other 50% voted for? Sure you do. 1921 again.
And who the fuck wants that?
As I said, it’s not “right” or “wrong”; it’s just “life”.
@TheOtherRon,
Well, it’s a case of “you jump first”, no? Rest assured, if there is any kind of agitation this weekend, fomented by the Socialist Workers or anyone else, I’m there. And for the record, I’m not sure petrol bombs have ever been the answer for this country.
Four ‘hairshirt’ Budgets price of bank rescue deal.(headline on Sir Anthonys rag today)
Why?? Because they’re worth it.
^ I meant “people AREN’T ready for revolution”…
Put an Irishman on the spit and you can always get another Irishman to turn him.
What all of us in ireland need to do is focus our attention on what is really happening here.
I think we’re being used as a test case for further worldwide acts of wealth transfer from one social class to another.
Quite simply, the money you earn is going straight to the bank accounts of people like the Rothschilds, Goldmans, and Peter Sutherland. That is exactly what is happening. Because it’s these institutions and wealthy individuals who invested in the likes of Anglo Irish Bank and bought the bonds. They are are still getting their return despite having lost the gamble.
Basically the middle classes got a little too rich and a little too well paid for the ‘masters’ of international business and finance to stomach. They think they gave it us in the first place so they had to get that money back off us.
This is done by allowing reckless lending to escalate to the point where governments have to bail out the banks to prevent economic collapse and social disorder. Then they order their little puppets in government to slash public spending, force down salaries and deflate their economies in order to pay the banks all the money they lost in the big ‘gamble’.
But it wasn’t a gamble at all. It was completely orchestrated by international money wholesalers like the US Federal Reserve (which prints dollars but is actually privately run) and the various arms of Rothschilds and Goldman Sachs among others. Rothschilds advised our government on NAMA.
Typically you earned money unless you were wealthy in which case others earned it for you. Then came low interest rates and cheap money. So people bought money on credit to add to their wealth. They got carried away and felt happy and free to buy what they wanted. But all they were doing was racking up debt which was unsustainable. They were buying debt not cars.
The thing people need to focus on is that money is a commodity or a product. It is like oil or grain or iron ore. It’s not something you use to purchase with, it is something you purchase at a certain interest rate in order to then purchase something else.
Since currencies have stopped being linked to real wealth such as gold reserves, it became wealth in itself. Previously money was only a representation of existing wealth. Now the US Fed can print money when it wants and so can the EU Central Bank. They are both heavily influenced by private financiers, not the citizens of the US and EU.
Simply, if everyone stops buying cars, that industry collapses. If you stop buying money, that industry too will collapse. We have to figure out a way of reducing our use of money and relying more on independent currencies. And that can be barter, coupons, prize bonds, self reliance.
Ireland is being watched closely by strategists, policy makers and think tanks around the world to see how far a nation can be pushed into submission before they let off. I guarantee you. That’s also why companies have their European headquarters here. It’s so they can test market ideas and legislation on us first.
We’re a small western open democracy so we’re the ideal Test Tube Nation.
We are Guinea Pigs.
ron, vikings and brits are a bad analogy – at least they were outsiders. we’re being fucked by our own..governing/professional classes have the mentality of catle raiding petty chieftains rather than anything as organised or planned as empire..
although I guess when lenny eventually invites the IMF in, it will be kinda like mc murragh inviting the Normans in to give him a ‘dig out’
Clamp down on lazy public service staff — President
Thats a great idea,we can start with her,her staff,then the politicians,then the retired politicians/judges/higher civil servants and every other free loading motherfucker who has taken this country for a ride since the foundation of the state.I’ve often wondered, does anyone know just how much we spend on the pensions of all retired politicians and senior civil servants,i’l bet there are serios savings to be mde there,if anyone was interested.
Jeezus HM, why aren’t you on a box in the middle of O’Connell Street saying those things? Excellently put!
Holemaster,dont take this the wrong way but i like you, no , not in that way, but everything you say there is spot on. we ARE just part of an experiment.
@Holemaster
There is more than a whiff of “International Jewish Conspiracy” about your post. For fuck’s sake, for once let’s take responsibility as a nation for this mess, instead of scapegoating. Irish banks, Irish property developers, greedy Irish peasants. We know exactly who was holding the smoking gun.
@ Holemaster
Jim, Jim, is that you Jim?
I’d love to ride your sisters
Jeezus HM, why aren’t you on a box in the middle of O’Connell Street saying those things? Excellently put!
Action man, because just like the cement truck driver, no file would be being prepared for the dpp,he would be lifted and made an example of to deter the likes of you and me. But someone somewhere is going to have put their heads over the parapet sooner or later.
Why is Holemaster’s idea so far fetched though?
Isn’t it a bit naive to assume otherwise?
Kate says: “There is more than a whiff of “International Jewish Conspiracy” about your post. ”
That’s the bog standard response to a criticism of international banking. The age old anti-semitic line. Yawn. A classic example of ridicule the dissenter by insinuating they hate Jewish people. It’s an trick old Kate. Try something else.
My observations are based on taking the time out to read trends and signals over many years of having an interest in international politics and social change. And the opinion I expressed is shared by many others and increasingly so.
@Jo – “Why is Holemaster’s idea so far fetched though?” because internet hyperbole aside, “modern” westernised nations don’t have revolutions.
That’s why nobody is watching “how far they can push us”. Nobody fucking cares how far you can push a bunch of peasants beacuse (let’s get down to brass tacks) – what could anyone actually do? With the exception of .22 rifles & hunting shotguns, guns are illegal in Ireland and as a result fuck all people have them. The few that do are using them to stick up post-offices and won’t be marching on the Dail anytime soon.
The govt were legally voted in, by a majority. That’s how democracy works. And yes it’s corrupt and we should have a better system, but we never will because as Kate says, it’s a case of “you jump first” and no-one wants to jump. We are pissed off but when you actually consider what is required for a revolution, it’s a step to far for a country that’s only 90 years since its last civil war.
People don’t actually want to go out and shoot gardai and politicians. Violent revolution is only better than worse violence. And at the moment people are complaining about not being able to pay mortgages and car-loans. That’s a far cry from what’s been done to other countries where the govt have actually been overthrown. Yeah we could riot like the greeks. What did that get them? You think the govt have a big Pot O Cash to pay for the damage that causes? No – they just raise taxes again and we end up paying for the bailout and the damage we caused and the cost of extra policing etc.
Don’t get me wrong – I didn’t vote for FF and I want them gone, but revolution, civil war and murder are big steps for a population to take. It’s probably better to take our taxing and at least have a country left to hate.
Violence is not an answer. There’s a lot talk about it but I don’t think anyone really wants that. We all know the legacy of that in Ireland.
But mass protests and strikes should happen in order to show the world that some people still have a modicum self respect left.
@Holemaster – that ‘blame international financiers’ (jewish or not) line is also a yawn. My point was that we really should not point out the mote in someone else’s eye while ignoring the beam in our own. There are plenty of people in this country who bear a heavy responsibility for this situation. Pointing the finger at an international banking conspiracy is diluting the focus of people’s anger, and shifting responsibility away from the same 500 in this country who have sold the rest of us down the river through mismanagent of the economy. We don’t need international bankers to run us onto the rocks, we are well able to do that for ourselves, it seems.
@The Other Ron – I don’t believe there is a need for violence. I think there is a crying need for mass demonstration and if necessary civil disobedience to compel the goverment to allow Anglo-Irish Bank to fail. At the moment they are simply refusing to follow the logic of their own sink or swim capitalist rationale. And I agree wholeheartedly with Skin Flick’s “It’s not my debt” slogan. I have avoided personal debt my whole life – I don’t even have a credit card. Why should I have to pay for Sean Fitzpatrick’s, Charlie McCreevy’s/Bertie Ahern’s/Brian Cowen’s et al mistakes? Why should any of us?
while i agree with the general assessment of the banks, government and state of the country on this site, i still think people forget half the reason for this mess. irresponsible borrowing goes with irresponsible lending. i’m not aware of any case where the bank forced customers at gunpoint to take out stupid loans they couldn’t pay back. seems to me that the irish people are copying the government in blaming every one but themselves
david mcwilliams:
“The amount of outstanding mortgage debt at the start of January 2004 was €54.6bn. It is now €118bn. So mortgage lending went up by close to 120pc in five years.
It could be argued that there are many more houses in Ireland since the beginning of 2004, so maybe those numbers are not as bad as they seem — because at least we have houses on the other side of the balance sheet.
But this is not the case, because on the other side of the balance sheet are cars, second houses, fields, fancy kitchens, flat-screen TVs and holidays on the Algarve. This is what we borrowed for and we used our houses as a large ATM machine, and the banks eagerly facilitated.
At the beginning of 2004, 16pc of our housing stock (by value) was mortgaged; by mid-2010 that number stood at 39pc.”
No one said anything about violent revolution!
More people need to stand up and say ‘NO! I am not taking any more of your nonsense’
TDs need to be reminded as to the reason for their existence, to serve the people that put them there in the first place and not to be the sychophantic wankers they are pandering to the whims of Joe Cash and his flash wallet.
I’m presently composing a mail to every single TD reminding them of that fact. Email addresses to be found on HMs site. I’ve had mixed response from using the Oireachteas mail addresses before. Those in government tend to ignore and those not seem to reply with empathy, the cunts.
Leave Holemaster alone,he’s a good guy and his opinions are well worth taking on board going forward as we turn the corner.
Kate I fully recognise the fault of our own developers and bankers. Believe me, I am not saying that they had nothing to do with this but I also think they are a symptom of a greater problem. The money they borrowed from Anglo was in turn borrowed from even larger banks.
The winners in all of this rarely see the consequences of their own actions. They don’t see the elderly wife trying to find the money to pay for her husband’s incontinence pants as well trying to care for him all day because the funding for a nurse has been cut.
Ordinary people are becoming slaves. State services are being turned into private revenue streams. (E.G. Public nursing homes being tendered out to private care companies who then demand that patients pay for supplies which were previously provided free).
“Who in their right mind is going to listen to the likes of Éirigi, Sinn Féin, The Workers’ Party and their ilk?”
With attitudes like that no wonder power ping pongs between the Fail cunts and the Gael cunts!
Your lack of knowledge in both politics and economics is astounding.
You use this soapbox-blog as a platform to tirade your nonsensical ramblings to anyone will listen. The fact is that sacks of shit like you will moan everyday of your life for the rest of your life. It doesn’t matter what is going on you will complain about it.Times are good twenty complains, times are bad twenty complains. The only constant is your bad attitude. Are you auditioning for a post in the Evening Herald because that’s where this blog belongs. Sent out to the great unwashed of Dublin. The moaning begrudging taxi drivers, plasters, electricians, labours and binmen of this country. The people who blame their every misfortune on others instead of themselves.
You are what’s wrong with Ireland not Fianna Fail. Why don’t you move to France and go on strike you complete cunt.
Over to you Twenty, will I tell him or will you…
GG must have been sent in by the FF internet spooks. I wonder whose foot soldier he is.
“Ordinary people are becoming slaves”
bit (heh) over the top, but should have a look through this, hm.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12070379/Might-is-Right-by-Ragnar-Redbeard
Jesus, GGAllin, are you Brian Cowen’s spin doctor? What’s wrong with open fucking debate? Blogs are the only place in this country where that happens. You certainly can’t rely on our marvellous state broadcaster for healthy debate.
@Principle Chalmers, I wasn’t attacking Holemaster, I was debating with him, and I take his point about globalisation. Criminality begins at home, though.
Jaysus Twenty it looks like Cowen does read the blog after all..
Ingore him! Replying to his dribble only validates it and him!
I agree with HM. Unequivocally. It doesn’t take much digging to see that Goldman Sachs and their ilk actually run the world. Do you need a concrete example Kate? Peter Sunderland, chairman of Goldman Sachs turns up the other day on 6.1 news to tell us all that defaulting on the bondholders of Anglo Irish Bank would be a very bad idea for the country.
You want to see who he is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland
Along with being one time Attorney General of this benigted Isle of ours he is, amongst other things, a member of the Bilderberg Group:
“The Bilderberg Group, Bilderberg conference, or Bilderberg Club is an annual, unofficial, invitation-only conference of around 130 guests, most of whom are people of influence in the fields of politics, banking, business, the military and media. Each conference is closed to the public.”
I could go on but you get the picture. I’m with my fellow guinea pig HM on this one Kate. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I don’t write in green ink. I just open my eyes.
gg meet me on the bridge at milltown at four before i go for stout
“the moaning begrudging taxi drivers, plasters [sic], electricians, labours and binmen of this country.”
Er, that would be the same “great unwashed” who pay taxes for public services/the wages of our elected representatives, right?
You’re the one who displays obvious contempt for the ordinary people, GG. It’s a hallmark of the ruling ‘elite’.
GG Allin if you could take your head out of your arse for a moment,go fuck yourself,you facist cunt.
‘The moaning begrudging taxi drivers, plasters, electricians, labours and binmen of this country. The people who blame their every misfortune on others instead of themselves. ‘
He seems to be having a go at all of the hard working people in this country, the vast majority of whom now have no source of income due to the incompetence of the people he seems to suport. So that’s what FF really think of the honest ordinary people of Ireland.
Read it and weep folks? Surely not, read it, remember it and re-iterate it to your local FFer as you dowse him with petrol and torch the cunt!
Twenty, any chance of an IP address so I can bust GG’s ass?
http://digitalkore.net/~matthew/images/troll.jpg
Twenty,please tell me you are’nt that fat fuck ian somebody who writes for the herald,please.
Action Man….That is the gayest sounding threat ever.
Chastity belt to the ready GG.
For the record I do agree GG sounds like a clown. I just don’t think raiding his anus is the solution.
I cant wait for FF to start calling at doors in the new year…
Twenty,please tell me you are’nt that fat fuck ian somebody who writes for the herald,please.
heh, I certainly am not.
You are what’s wrong with Ireland not Fianna Fail. Why don’t you move to France and go on strike you complete cunt.
haha
you picked a great name cunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU
Porridge when I say slaves I mean a sort of modern form of it.
Slaves were typically forced to work for nothing other than their food and board. These days, people are paid enough to feed and board themselves, just about. The exception to the rule is higher end professionals and even then you’re not immune. Just look at all the unemployed solicitors and engineers out there.
Peter Sutherland and friends want us oppressed and desperate so we fight amongst ourselves and do what we’re told so they can control how much they pay for labour and expertise and maximise their profits.
I cant wait for FF to start calling at doors in the new year…
I can’t imagine they’ll be too keen to knock on doors. They were conspicuous in their absence at the last election. This time there’s much more anger.
Hahah, I wouldn’t fuckin touch GG Allin, the dirty cunt would throw a turd at you or try to hairy ape you with it or something.
…at least he would if he wasn’t browners.
Any way of getting a list of Fianna Fail members? As in ALL of them. Must be an Excel file somewhere with all the silly little cunts names.
Plop, a beating is too god for him. You can forget a beating but you’ll never forget a good ridin’
Bend him over a barrel I say.
Heh!
And thats coming from a plastic man with no appendage whatsoever!
And thats coming from a plastic man with no appendage whatsoever!
But a handsome divil nonetheless!!!!!! “SKINNER”
I didn’t mean revolution, when I was supporting Hm’s point, I meant the conspiracy theory. Small groups of people in possession of all the wealth and business… of course it’s alarming.
GG’s tirade was a bit TL:DR but the gist of it seemed to be that if Twenty cheered up a bit, everything would be ok.
Over to you Twenty you misanthropic cunt, this nothing less than a call to patriotic duty.
Mooner’s on Google Street View:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1001/breaking42.html
http://tinyurl.com/2ujw9pc
This is how we are now seen by the outside world & EU Commissioner on radio at lunchtime hinting our Tax regime would have to change.
People laughed at and railed against Ganley etc, maybe they were right, the other cunts were definately wrong.
But a handsome divil nonetheless!!!!!! “SKINNER”
You called? ;-)
Note to everyone: Holemaster’s right. I expect him to be found in a suitcase in a canal any day now as a result of revealing what he knows.
In all seriousness, this is a blatant attempt by the world’s hyperrich to transfer their losses onto you.
You’re a fucking retard if you let them do it.
I don’t intend to. Every penny they take off me to hand over to Anglo, I’ll take one back some way or another.
And when the day comes that I can’t find a way to do that, I’ll be off outta here. It’s not my debt and I won’t pay it.
I suggest you don’t either. But if you’re inclined to, can I interest you in sorting my credit card bill too?
And mine! I don’t understand – I borrowed all this money, and for some reason they seem to be asking for it back – and interest! That’s not how I thought it was done…
Everybody in Ireland should file for Bankruptcy.
That would screw them.
Now there’s a thought.
Now there’s a thought.
It seems such a simple idea but would it actually work? How does one go about declaring oneself bankrupt and get away with it? Jesus, this might just be a way out.”SKINNER”
This is not a good country to try to go bankrupt in. Britain’s much better. We should all move to England for six months and then declare there.
We’re not a good country for individuals to be in any sort of debt, to be honest. The last place in Europe where the powers-that-be can still jail you for it, unbelievably.
Unless, of course, you’re part of the golden circle, in which case you can fly off abroad with a golden handshake to live in your mansion, or stay in your Foxrock palace here and spoof your head off about having no money while all your former assets have been transferred to your wife.
Oh, and Principal Chalmers. Quit yelling.
I’m trying to teach young Bart here little scamp won’t admit where he got certain large sums of money from. He keeps claiming he won it on horses or was given it by pals in Manchester.
HAH! As my darling Edna Krabappel would say.
By the way, just another small observation on our friend Peter Sutherland for the conspiracy-minded amongst us. Make of it what you will:
On 5 December 2006, he was appointed as Consultor of the Extraordinary Section of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (a financial adviser to the Vatican).
Nuff said?
this is what i would like to do to john gormley.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d7_1179329403
By the way, just another small observation on our friend Peter Sutherland for the conspiracy-minded amongst us. Make of it what you will:
On 5 December 2006, he was appointed as Consultor of the Extraordinary Section of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (a financial adviser to the Vatican).
Nuff said?
Done well for an ex clongownian has our real leader.well spotted young crank.
JC Skinner;heh!
I saw that alright Crank.
Sean Fitzpatricks address:
Camaderry,
The Burnaby,
Greystones,
Co. Wicklow
Can’t find it on Google maps. Probably had it removed.
And further news:
European Commissioner for Economic & Monetary Affairs Olli Rehn said today:
“Ireland in the coming decade will not be a low tax country, but it will rather become a normal tax country in the European context.”
There is absolutely no doubt that the EU are gunning for our low corporation tax. It’s going, going gone chaps, along with the multinational gravy train. If you work in Intel/Microsoft/Google laddies, better start taking Chinese courses.
75 comments asking why the sheep of this cuntry are not on the streets with pitchforks and torches over the 35 billion. its a simple answer i have for ye.ITS NOT REAL YET. let me explain that, twenty min ago i gave our local chemist 50cent for prescription meds for my sick child even though ive a medical card. up to a few weeks ago i was getting 295 a week for being unemployed and married with two kids. thats about 80 quid a week less than when i was working. in other words its still manageable to get through the week. when the day comes that im getting only 100E a week for being unemployed and the chemist looks for 18 euro even though ive a medical card, then the shit will hit the fan. give it another two maybe three years of severe austerity cuts to the budget and then we might see some recation from the people of ireland
Fitzpatrick lives at….
Camaderry,
Whitshed Road,
Greystones,
Co. Wicklow
It’s on the left on the long road in “The Burnaby”, leading to the golf course.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Burnaby,+Greystones,+Co.+Wicklow&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=22.383401,58.183594&ie=UTF8&hq=The+Burnaby,&hnear=Greystones,+County+Wicklow,+Ireland&ll=53.140271,-6.070848&spn=0.005548,0.014205&t=h&z=17
Interestingly, when you drag the little Streetview figure onto that road, there’s a section in the middle that doesn’t go blue. No Streetview there.
Hmmm…
Action Man. HA!!!! Save up several week loads worth for him as well. Make a proper mess of the divil.
Take THAT. BOOM.
time for stout
Doh !
That missing Streetview was just a glitch on my computer.
Don’t think they haven’t tried though.
Thanks Larry. I might pop there some late night when dear sparkly eyed ‘Seanie’ is fast asleep in his bed.
It’s an extremely select area. Sigh. Expect security gates.
I have friends. And they have friends.
Are they in low places, Garth?
Yes. Yes they are.
im not sure but this could be it
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Burnaby,+Greystones,+Co.+Wicklow&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=22.383401,58.183594&ie=UTF8&hq=The+Burnaby,&hnear=Greystones,+County+Wicklow,+Ireland&ll=53.140271,-6.070848&spn=0.005548,0.014205&t=h&z=17
I’m about to make your day worse everyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN0DtRJYs_0
Sport? SPORT?????
So that’s a sports writers that cunt is keeping out of a job.
Can this week get any fucking worse?????
Re: Seanie’s address. That’s where you bring
“your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me…”
When you can get your elderley relative into a nursing home, leave her at Seanies.
When you can’t get your sick child into hospital, leave him at Seanies.
When you lose your home to feckless bankers, move your family to Seanies.
When you default on your loans, arrange to be arrested at Seanies.
When you just can’t take it any more, top yourself at Seanies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN0DtRJYs_0
Jesus fucking Christ.
The horror. Pretty much sums up how the average person feels every time they turn on RTE.
Argh!!!! WTF?????
Criminal knacker in the cupboard.
As someone posted over on YouTube, is there not some law that prevents a sitting TD endorsing a product, even though the fucker rarely shows up in the Dáil?
Why doesn’t everyone start taking all their money out of the banks and using cash for all purchases? I have extracted my savings from my bank, and ever since that crap Ahern went on about, you know, preventing tiger kidnappings by ATM charges, have paid for all my purchases in cash. That “move towards a cashless society” just means they want absolute control and authority over all your financial affairs. Which they can’t have if you use only cash.
There are numerous fire proof combination safes available. I know it sounds nuts. But the only thing that will get through to these pricks is hitting them in the wallets. If everyone just takes out their savings and uses cash for everything, they will be in serious trouble. Am I advocating a run on the banks? No. But I am advocating less of a reliance on them.
That as is so badly made too. Looks like a student film.
Thankfully I don’t recognise any of the other lurkers in the kitchen.
There`a a rat in the kitchen.
I’m gonna kill that rat …
what am I gonna do..
I loved the bit where the fella unloads the shotgun in Bertie’s fat-face..
I love how they put Bertie in the closet though… what else was rattling in there?
Thers nothing that low life scumbag bastard wont do for money. Anyhow he’s indebted to murdoch who was responsible for the *sucess* of the young ones so called book.
Best line about Ahern I’ve seen lately….
“At what point will Ahern get it through his thick skull that nobody is interested in him unless it’s his public execution, shot will pellets of his own frozen shite”.
Well I would certainly go out in support of people who are genuinely struggling, but am not in the country at the moment. But for sure would not go out in support of people with ‘property portfolios’ – why should their greed become my problem? Why should I protest for their right to hold on to these, so that eventually if/when they go up in value, they or their children can become millionaires off the back of taxpayers?
I read askaboutmoney – everybody on there seems to have at least two properties. ‘Public servants’ wives on Joe Duffy today moaning. The first thing these people should be asked is ‘do you own more than one property?’
Remember seeing a property porn show couple of years ago.Couple building a humungous house down around Killoe or somewhere. Ordinary jobs, can’t remember, but nothing special. Marble floors throughout! Can you imagine what that cost? Nothing but the best! And all borrowed!
There are those who are struggling through no fault of their own, but let’s not forget that there are just as many struggling because of sheer greed. I find it difficult to feel sorry for them.
And I don’t think or Pierre wuld have any sympathy for them either. They certainly could never have aspired to such excess.
Begrudgery you say? Naaaa.. But hope you get my drift.
Sounds to me that for the most part you’re Teaparty people.
I opened the link Twenty and someone missed an opportunity to weld the doors shut.
Jesus. I thought I had a busy day. I’m too tired to say anything except, great post, great dialogue to follow up; hope all your dreams come true. except loco. and ggallin (who I think blew his head off on stage?)
Holemaster – 23 holds quite a lot of interesting viewpoints. I tend to agree that this is not the incompetently driven mess we are being asked to believe it is. Here are some of the issues that I think are obvious to anyone with a modicum of commonsense and some of the notions that might only occur to a few lunatics like me….
- Out of all the economists, bankers, politicians, many of whom are trained in the fields of money, banking, government, no-one saw this coming ? Frankly this is impossible to believe, incompetence isn’t quite so universal yet. So some people must have known more than we are being allowed to think, if that is granted the next step is to ask if some of that elite stood or stand to gain from what has and will happen. I would suggest that not only do certain parties stand to profit from it but that they more or less instigated and are managing the whole thing. Only then does it seem comprehensible. The idea that its all a product of mis management, incompetence and Irishness is far harder to believe to my mind.
- So the reaction of the public at the moment is exactly what those who stood to profit expect and want. Blame the people you put in power, force them out and replace them with a meaningless ‘alternative’ in order to sate your anger and frustration.
- Therefore the onus is on everyone to take a step back and consider their role. Many people will not be able to do this but those who can need to communicate and act.
- How many of us have actually taken our money out of the banks ? Do it.
- Haughey, Ahern, Cowan. Why is anyone shocked by anything these people do or don’t do ? Their status and success is inextricably linked to their ability to help their cohorts and themselves prosper while using the most rudimentary forms of spin to keep the citizens from treating them as the criminals they are and always were.
- Define your terms of violence. I believe locking someone up in a cell is one of the most violent acts we ever invented. Yet I still cannot believe our inability to imprison those who act above the law.
- There are two ways of asking the question ‘what can i do ?’. The already, defeated; what can I do ? or the willing to act; what CAN i do ? The people asking with the latter inunciation can get organised or/and can act individually.
- Don’t oppose the system, change it.
- Mass groups of non-voters at polling booths. Organised spoiling.
- An Apolitical Party.
- The strength of numbers attracts us towards the organised action, protest, resistance but the individual position is crucial. Personally I take a situationist approach. I like to write to people who work in banks and plant seeds of doubt in their minds or just to test their mentality. I try to be funny ! Also I am starting an online radio show that will mix music with dialogue about facts and issues that I never hear referenced on our national airways. The message must come through many mediums. I am not a truth movement head, a left winger or a reactionary but I have had enough of being treated like I can’t actually see what is happening in front of me. I’m sick of people looking for the next bed of sand.
And I’m through with people who won’t can’t get off their ass.
Hold on a second I smell burning.
It only takes five seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgrxD674IY
John (no) Dough, jane’s little brother…
PS. Above all remain sceptical and beware of sheep in wolf’s clothing…
I hate when that happens. Ye open your kitchen press only to find a disgusting cockroach looking back at you.
HM – spot on with your posts up top. I’m still amazed when pointing out a greedy bunch of rich bastards are actively planning fleecing taxpayers is considered “conspiracy theory” by some people. Anyone with even a vague notion of what the likes of Milton Friedman and Edward Bernays were about should realise this is fact, not fiction.
Think Bosco might be right though, depressing as it is, this country needs to get fucked a whole lot harder before our breaking point is reached and we snap back. I’m all in favor of protests though, and strikes and any other tactics to make life as difficult as possible for this corrupt bunch of crooks in office.
I do poster blitz’s in train stations, bus stops etc, mostly on long weekend, or before elections to release the pressure.
http://i54.tinypic.com/apdaxi.jpg
an idea i took from a visit to berlin
http://i52.tinypic.com/2rrq5a0.jpg
good luck with radio show Jane – please play The Jesus Lizard and The Butthole Surfers
jimmy will be dedicated to you itchy. Thanks.
Yeah a fair few interesting stickers and posters going up guerilla style in recent times. Fair play. I tend to forget how different things are in Europe. As has been pointed out a number of times above as the harsh reality worsens the reaction gets more extreme. But that shouldn’t mean that its just a case of waiting for that to happen…
Ireland’s plight was the first item on the BBC News last night. They made sure to mention that British banks had loaned large sums to Irish banks and so were also vulnerable.
Can’t someone we respect piggy-back on Jon Stewart’s “Rally to restore sanity”?
Like…….Brendan O’Connor.O no.Hang on.He’s a cunt.Like……Tommy Tiernan.O no.Hang on.He’s a cunt.Like…….
This game is too hard.
I long for re-start.
Holemaster has been absoulutly right,the big banks and their affiliates will rape all of you before going under.We are a bunch of peasents that need to be kept in line,or so goes their thinking.I can`t wait till it urupts here in America,gonna be funny as hell.
Ireland’s finance minister Brian Lenihan ridiculed by City investors
Ireland’s finance minister was publicly ridiculed on an investor call intended to calm fear over the country’s economic woes.
Todays headline in the telegraph. i wonder will RTE or any of the rags that masquerade as newspapers in this country run with it? Did anyone else cop clinton giving cowen his instrutions from the bilderberg bosses?
Would Bono not be able to help?
I wish I had a cockroach.
argue thats all i done last night i wonder why
“Ireland’s finance minister was publicly ridiculed on an investor call intended to calm fear over the country’s economic woes.”
And thats exactly how the rest of the world sees that clown and the rest of his cohorts in our so called gubberment.
OTD;Funny enough i spent a rather large part of yesterday doing much the same,but alas to no avail,coz when i woke up this morning nothing had changed. To make matters worse i am otd at the moment,feel like going back on the lash to forget about things for a while.
This man does not give one fuck about you.
i was in ashtons of clonskeagh last night only because the pint is great’ all the cunts who are in nama sitting at the bar with the cunt who is running nama’ makes me sick fucking early stout for me but not ashtons. time for stout
fuxck me. just saw that ad for that newspaper above. paul williams – cunt – writes s about what he insists are “criminal scum” and Bertie AHern is sitting beside him. It’s like raiiiiiinnnn on summer day
all in it together like a barrel of slime ells itchy
A mate once called Ashtons to say there was a BMW on fire in the car park. Half the pub ran out.
two things I enjoyed from last on the tv.
first; when realising that after correcting a typo many times it still appeared in his novel )he pulped them all midweek;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBY3e7597gc
and
I’ve always had a soft spot for this guy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/9053238.stm
i like it haha
When David McWilliams said on the radio this afternoon that the people in power want to preserve the status quo Mary Hanafin got faux-angry and said that sshe won’t be accused of economic reason – FF love using that word.
In my opinion, anybody, like Mary Hanfin, who has no qualms about pulling 3 pensions from the state, can be accused of economic treason.
Here is the opening prosecution statement. “Cunts. We have here before us somebody who is a teacher with a pension. We have here before us a person who is minister for state affairs with a pension. We have here before us a TD with a pension. Paid for by you, the citizens of this country. Most citizens of this country would be content, nay, more than content, very happy with one state pension. Mary wants all 3 because it is her “entitlement”. She see’s it as no problem that she feels that she is “entitled” to THREE state pensions.
“What ye say?”
“Economic Treason. Guilty or not guilty?”
If a politican drawing three pensions is killed crossing the road do the three pensions cease or do they get paid to her relatives?
The answer to that could be important.
GUILTY !!!
I don’t know Captain but if I had to make a choice you know which i’d pick. It was Berie Ahern, Charlie McCreevy, Brian Cowen and Brian Lenihan who were/are in charge when all these slush funds for politicians were and are being put on the books. “Clocking in” money i.e. paid to turn up for work. That’s only one expense item paid by the citizens of this country to them. That’s taking the complete piss.
This kind of shit pointed out in a previous post by a poster who’s name escapes me
http://thestory.ie/2010/02/25/cars-and-people/
Thanks Larry. I’ll pick you for the next trial too.
The day of the bank guarantee when Anglo Irish bank was included and a blank cheque drawn on the account of the Irish taxpayer was the day that Ireland was revealed as an oligarchy.
Is anyone surprised that the oligarchy’s creatures in government are well looked after in terms of pensions?
The Banking Inquiry is held in private and no names will be identified. The Banking Inquiry’s terms of reference prevent it from examining the political decision to hide the fraudulent operation of Anglo Irish Bank.
Fuck it- Ireland is a basket case write-off. All rise for a quick saunter through Amhran Na Bhfian.
When I am king I will make Firestarter by The Prodigy the national anthem. I will employ Joe Jacob, at the minimum wage, to hand out blue pills. And they won’t be stale iodine tablets.
bop ’til you drop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw
Why stop at just three or four people? As far as I am concerned FF and their remaining supporters should not be able to enter a public place without receiving a beating.
They are just the Irish oligarchy’s white niggers. That is not meant as a racist comment intended as an insult to black people.
Its the correct term for Fianna Failers at any level- senior politician or local pub apologist.
For about ten years from thr mid`90`s Ireland managed to run with the big boys.This was based on global wellbeing, that we managed to tag onto. When the bubble burst the big boys had economic, commercial and industrial reserves to fall back on. Ireland the imposter has reverted to type.Relying on gombeenism. We only ever were and always will be the most westerly third world country.
HM: To bring a smile like that on his face, he must have his hands in someones pocket. It’s an unfortunate fact that the cream of the crop among politicians is always found at the bottom of the barrel. Or the cesspool.
Blog worth checking out.
http://archie-templar.blogspot.com/2010/10/brian-cowen-punches-pregnant-woman-just.html?zx=fb1bd9cc72f4a90f
itchy, think this would be amuch better anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY&feature=fvw
That was a strong post, alright!
It’s certainly true that we can’t accuse our politicians of ‘economic reason’.
Some friends here in England have just had a baby boy today.
And they’re calling him Bertie !
All I can think of is the crook in the cupboard.
Thats something else that intrigues me .. why so many people in Ireland refer to that crooked little cunt as ‘bertie’ as if he was the family beagle.
‘That crooked little cunt’ suits him so much better. By the way I hear that Cashel Chamber of Commerce have had to retract an invitation some local vomitous FF-heads had extended to him for a dinner on October 7th.
Public pressure from business people in Cashel and a protest organised by Rock of Cashel on politics.ie are apparently behind the decision to cancel the invitation.
Fair go to people in Cashel and RoC. The same should happen in every town in Ireland. Another thought occurs- how come the Chamber of Commerce there and the News of the World are able to offer the crooked little cunt money when he doesn’t have a tax clearance certificate?
isn’t it illegal to employ someone without a cert?
The state demands that you provide a tax clearance certificate when you conduct business with them. That fucking song again, I’m repeating myself – it’s like raiiiinnnnn on a summers day.
Off tangent. kind of. Small town ireland. maybe. I visited malahide tonight. My nickname for malahide is twin peaks. The amount of shit we’ve gone through there. e.g. – the infamous murder of mrs livingstone- like all murders, unsolved in ireland by those dopey orc cunts down in templemore – where a friend of mine was questioned by the dumbos in james terrace about his whereabouts. The infamous restaurant , Johnnys – which coincidently was also on james terrace too – made an appearance in the ansbacher report. The visit of maggie thatcher. My friends gorgeous mother sunbathing in the nip.
anyway. I remember last february hearing one small news report about 2 people stopped in malahide in possession of a gun. Then I heard nothing. I remember because the specific area in malahide was mentioned and my ears popped up and I said….hmmmm. The specific area has some very high net worth individuals. In fact, everyone I know of there has. One or two have appeared in the phoenix mag. A friend of mine read it on aertel that day. And nothing. It disappeared into the ether. It’s gone. Google? Nope. Newsparers. ? Nope. A bit like the 10 million dollars worth of cigarettes I’m always going on about that were so triumphantly sussed in dundalk harbour, 9 or 10 people caught on the ship were questioned, everything paraded on the news and nobody was ever charged. Bit like the banksa nd politicians, white-collar criminals etc.
It was mentioned to me tonight that “shots were fired” in a certain area of malahide on wednesday night. No reports in any media. Anybody hear about the shots fired? Isn’t it normal to hear reports of that type?
I’d pop in to James Terrace and ask but I’m watching Mississipi Burning and feeling afraid. Also, the last time I was there they had me standing on a table with no clothes on pointing and laughing at me. Delightful.
What’s got four eyes and can’t see? Mississipi.
I fucking love Gene Hackman.
Malahide; Missisippi.
For fuck’s sake.
Up early. Scrolling through Google News, Ireland section. There’s a link to an article called A President should transcend politics and protect our heritage.
Turns out it’s a hatchet job on Fergus Finlay, but written by none other than Celia Larkin.
Sunday Indo Rag.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/02/irish-eye-their-corrupt-elite
This letter to the Guardian seems to sum things
up nicely. I was not aware of the secrecy bit,
as to ministerial motive I thought they were
helping their buddies – naive I know – without
any personal interest.
alan dukes aka lizard man is possibly one of the biggest cunts in ireland. Water rates and higher taxation,easy for that freeloading ligger bastard,i wonder how the dukes household are managing to cope with the depression/double dip recession, what with old als 3 or 4 different pensions and now his undisclosed salary and bonus from anglo rape me bank things cant be easy,an absolute cunt of the highest order and the epitiome of whats wrong with so much in this fucked up country.
Alan Dukes – aloof and condescending don’t begin to describe his attitude to us mere “ordinary” people. When people like him say ” the ordinary man on the street” it makes me want to puke on the cunts.
Any arrests these days with regard to corrupt bankers? Can Lenihan be charged with an equiv crime of reckless trading with regard to state finances? Can anybody in this country be arrested for serious financial crimes? Nope. 7.5 Billion sent from I,L & P to Anglo Irish Bank. Any resignations or arrests? Nope.
I woke up with revenge on my mind. We deserve our revenge. As a gooner, I’m hoping to start with chelsea.
kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill beer kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill
That letter in The Guardian is spot on my opinion. I really want to know who the Anglo depositors are. My guess is half the fucking Government. They’re a fucking mafia they’ll have the Gardaí after you if you show signs of exposing them.
This might sound odd but I wouldn’t be surprised if Sean Fitzpatrick ended up spilling the beans on them all and becoming a national hero.
And therefore, dead at the hands of the state.
We’re long past querying arrests. The judicial system in Ireland has long ago been corrupted.
Note the apparent inability of the DPP to prosecute anyone connected with Fianna Fail on the basis that people have been talking about how crooked they are.
All senior Gardai and Judges at every level are government appointees. The entire legal profession in Ireland has been bottom-feeding off Fianna Fail and their hokey tribunals.
Its a fucking farce of a country and its going to take a lot more than some bent election to prise their fingers off the country.
After all this time, I have absolutely no clue of the reasons given by our government as to WHY Anglo should be kept floating?
Does anyone have the official response to this? Does the reason have any credibility at all?
And if not, aren’t the taxpayers not the stockholders of the bank after it’s been nationalised and don’t they get some say in the matter?
It all just absolutely fuckin stinks of a government orchestrated transfer of wealth from the middle and working class to a select group of people, perhaps only a few hundred in number.
Don’t ask those questions ass, you’re in the army now
http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2010/oct/03/government-press-secretary-allegedly-made-angry-th/
Jesus christ..
Are you the Judean Peoples Front?
Nah, we’re the Peoples Front of Judea!
Judean Peoples Front……. wankers.
This is what needs to be done:
(1) Every single person in this country email the Taoiseach’s Office to demand he step down immediate, call a general election as he has no mandate to govern: http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Your_Comments/
This needs to be publicised so that everyone submits their comment on the same day. This is followed up by everyone emailing their local FF and Green TD’s every day.
(2) This is followed by letters demanding he step down or there will be serious action taken, at best you may get 1,000,000 very angry people to do this. Release this to the press.
(3) This is followed by a mass protest outside Leinster House where we all remain silent for 12 minutes, representing all 12 years that this government has been in power. (Violence gives the media and the government a defense)
(4) Everyone wears armbands to represent their dis-approval with the government, on a daily basis this grows as word spreads and eventually everyone knows how everyone else is affected by this situation and where they stand. The government cannot hide behind statistics or polls.
Demonstrations are increased in frequency to mean that eventually they are held EVERY day/night, it’s relentless and in their face, EVERY day!
When Miriam O’Callaghan asked Lenihan why
it was only the people of Ireland who were
paying the price – no politicians,developers
or bankers – he was evasive (prevarication is
treated as perjury in courts) which was no
surprise but it was pure hate and anger in
his eyes, if looks could kill…. I think
she touched a nerve.
By the way is that fine head of hair for
real?
Do you think FF will risk their bagman at Anglo getting nervous about a jail sentence?
Remember Sean Fitzpatrick knows which senior FF’r and their families received ‘non-recourse’ loans and he’d be an idiot not to have a little notebook with his lawyers to be released to the media should there even be a sniff of a sentence for him.
Why do you think its taking so long to seem him up on charges?
He’s as safe as a paedophile priest.
By the way Sean Quinn has had 2.5billion in debt written off.
Luckily he managed to transfer millions to his children’s wealth portfolios fairly recently.
Thank fuck for that. The thought of them poor chislers going’ without the few weeks in Gstaad fair had me up at night pacing the floorboards.
that’s handy. reminds me of the million pound overdraft that cj haughey had aib write off for him. except quite a bit bigger. & the haugheys got 20 million. the quinns take hundreds of millions for themselves and walk away from a 2 billion dollar debt leaving the citizens of ireland to pay it.
Lenihan say’s this is all done in the best interests of irish citizens. Will he freeze the accounts of the Quinn family and repossess their assets?
Ah sure we thought we won our freedom in 1922.
But all we won was the freedom to rob ourselves. And that freedom was bestowed upon a select few as long as they kept London and Rome happy.
Monday October 04 2010
FINANCE Minister Brian Lenihan last night dismissed claims he was mocked by international investors during a conference call about the state of the Irish economy.
His officials are now looking to track down a recording of the call to prove beyond doubt that some traders did not make “chimp sounds” or call out “dive, dive” and “short Ireland” while he was speaking.
A spokesman for Mr Lenihan said there was absolutely no basis to the story reported in the ‘Daily Telegraph’. “If what they claimed had happened, you would have known before the conference call was over. It would have been the talk of
A tad late indo, but better late than never eh. Goebbels would be proud of these wankers.