Bertie wants to be President

It’s true, he does. There are 10 very good reasons why he should never be elected to this office.

1 – He’s a cunt

2 – He’s a sneaky cunt

3 – He’s a sneaky, lying cunt

4 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful cunt

5 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful, religious cunt

6 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful, religious, Man United supporting cunt

7 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful, religious, Man United supporting, brown envelope loving cunt

8 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful, religious, Man United supporting, brown envelope loving, tax-dodging cunt

9 – He’s a sneaky, lying, forgetful, religious, Man United supporting, brown envelope loving, tax-dodging, Celtic Tiger wasting cunt.

10 – He is Bertie Ahern.

The idea of him being President is far more offensive to me than somebody dancing on somebody’s grave – which isn’t really that offensive to me at all when you consider whose grave is being danced on.

After everything he’s done does he really think he’s entitled to live in the big house in the park raking in the salary + allowance which is more than €500,000 a year? Yes, that’s the thing. He does think he’s entitled to it.

Despite everything, the culture of self-entitlement runs to the very core of the FF party. These people, don’t forget, have absolutely no concept of what the recession means. They haven’t been affected in the slightest. Pay cut? Give me a break. They’re already grossly overpaid, Bertie still gets a TDs salary + pensions for doing fuck all. How often is he in the Dail? How has the downturn affected him? He doesn’t have the first idea of how real people are being affected, therefore he’ll rock on as usual, criticisms and barbs like water of a duck’s back.

He’ll run for the park, no question about it. And if the people of Ireland are stupid enough to vote him in then there’s really no hope for us at all.

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94 Responses to Bertie wants to be President

  1. Peter Slattery says:

    If he gets the Presidency, it’ll be our fault. I’m bloody sick of hearing cunts say ‘ah, but he’s just a bit of a scourdrel.’ And these are the very people who’ll vote the prick into the Aras, thinking democracy is all just a bit of a laugh.

  2. moss says:

    I was sold on the first point

    11- he has cunt kids, particulary the son-in-law

    12- his personal driver is a cunt

    13- his butlers and maids are cunts

    14- the guy who wipes his arse when he shits out of his slithery mouth is also a cunt.

    His powers of cunt are so that that he can infect other parties with his toad-like cuntability.
    All the above are innocent, (except boyzone) but by following King Cunt, they too are smeared by his repungent goo

  3. fill3rup says:

    Entitled Cunt II:The Final Insult..

    Have to say though,he isn’t looking too healthy at the moment,looks a bit Gouty..

  4. tomo says:

    Of course he’ll go for it- he has a big brass teflon coated neck. He’s entitled to it. Ruthless amorality with a big double-chinned dollop of sociopathy is a basic requirement for success in fianna fail. I’ll bet he sleeps like a lamb.

  5. razzer says:

    george hook has confirmed again he’ll run against bertie. if hook got elected his already bloated sense of self importance would swell to the point where he’d explode – taking dublin west with him..

    hook v ahern..

    no matter who wins, we lose….

    cant be anyworse than mary mcmouthpiece…

  6. killemall says:

    To be sure that cunt doesn’t get in we need a non-gombeen candidate to get behind…Twenty, fancy moving to the northside, des-res in the park?

  7. If Bertie does get in, the ideal headline would be “Ireland Takes it up the Aras!”

    Are there any less farcical contenders for the park?

  8. murty says:

    “He does think he’s entitled to it”

    Whether Bertie thinks he’s entitled to the post or not is up for debate but what he does think is that if he throws his hat in the ring he has a very good chance of getting it. He knows there are fucking eejits out there what will vote for him. He’s thinking – cushy number, fat salary and is rubbing his thieving fucking mitts together.
    He must wake up everyday and think ‘how the jaysus do I still keep pulling the wool over everyones eyes’.

  9. Holemaster says:

    Vatican want him in. You do know he’s a Knight, just like Mary.

  10. razzer says:

    lung – fergus finlay(sp?) – always seemed like a decent intelligent man.

    although he was director of elections for lab – which implies a certain level of cunning…

  11. snifflecry says:

    Not interested since Miriam O’Callaghan ruled herself out but Fergus Finlay could do a good job, whatever the pres gig is. There’d be kids running round the Aras all night though. What harm.

    20,what if the bert was a gooner?

  12. rapemachine says:

    i’d take hook over that cunt mcaleese – to the saudis – “the irish people are with you at this difficult time” – in reference to the danish cartoons. as for ahern, if he stood i’d assist in his assassination, i could hide weapons, provide a safe house, whatevers needed.

  13. SuperGrover says:

    Do we get to vote for president or is it sorted on the QT? I honestly can’t remember.

    If David Norris was running, he’d be the man for the job.

    Bertie… fuckin’ hell. I’m a bit fascinated by the complete lack of humility or shame that the likes of himself, Callely et al seem to have.

    If I got caught being well dodge but still got a couple of super large pensions etc I would just quietly go away and count my blessings.

    These cunts are unreal.

  14. How about Emmet Stagg?
    I hear he knows how to handle himself in the park.

  15. Holemaster says:

    It’s a general election as far as I can tell SG. But if only one person is nominated, there is no election. And that happens a lot.

    If Bertie only is elected, then I’ll have to go forward just to keep him out. So you fuckers better appreciate me having to traipse around the world for the next seven years shaking hands with boring heads of state and not being allowed drive my own car.

  16. razzer says:

    holemaster = hook??

    I never would have credited hooky with such as sense of humour tbh…

  17. Conan Drumm says:

    Let FF run Bertie, it’ll finish them off.

    I’ve met Bertie (no great feat in that), he’s the epitome of a vacuous FF politician – so many manipulators’ arms up his arse that he has a different face for everyone he meets. So much so that there is actually no such person as Bertie Ahern, not in the sense of there being a moral, sentient person of that name who has values and acts accordingly. And there you have the dictionary definition of a cunt.

  18. Capt Con says:

    Of course he wants to be President. Its the logical vindication of the poor boy staring through the railings at the rich boys from Gonzaga who ‘summered’.

    His whole career has been about lying his way to what he sees as the ‘elite’ or ‘inner circle’.

    From the janitor’s son staring through the railings to looking out over Phoenix Park would be Bertie’s greedy little walter mitty journey by way of brown envelopes, favours and patronage.

    It would be a slur or the Travelling Community to call him a ‘knacker’. Mainly because no knacker I’ve ever heard of claims to have been a graduate at the LSE when everybody in Dublin knows he was an accounts clerk at the Mater Hospital.

    Many’s the traveller explained a large sum of cash away by saying they won it on a horse. Ahern reverted to form with that one and showed his complete contempt for the public and the electorate when he came out with that explanation for mysterious lumps of money.

    I hope he does run. And if he is humiliated I will know there is some hope for people in Ireland.

    The mere fact that a man who does not even have a valid tax certificate is talking about running for the Presidency is a classic gombeen move of its kind.

    We’ll find out a lot about Irish people if Ahern declares a run at the Presidency. We’ll know for sure that he regards the nation as ‘thick’ and a new level of contempt for the nation will have been breached.

  19. fill3rup says:

    Am I correct in thinking that as President,you get to perues acts that are to come into law and sign or not sign or is it just Constitutional issues?

  20. Capt Con says:

    The President can refuse to sign a document into law but I think there is a procedure to overcome that.

    Otherwise there is a kind of ‘star chamber’ of people including the Chief Justice (unsure of that) and the Attorney General and one or two other political appointees. They can send legislation back to the Oireachtas if there are concerns that the legislation may be in breach of the constitution but not on any other grounds as far as I know.

    So you could end up with Ahern plus two or three FF placemen in senior positions in the state who he helped appoint signing off on legislation.

    Apart from turning Aras an Uachtarann into a bookies office with a sudden increase in the brown envelope budget of course.

    Ahern is also a Vatican Knight (McAleese is a Dame of a Vatican Order).

    Both have obligations to the Vatican temporally and spiritually so basically the Pope gets another grip on Irish law and Bertie gets as much brown bag money as he can squeeze out of a position like ‘de Park’.

  21. Conan Drumm says:

    Yeah fill, the President rubber stamps legislation but has the seldom-used power to refer it to the Supreme Court if there is a doubt as to its constitutionality. There is also a ‘Council of State’ made up of ex-officio worthies and honorary appointees… if Bertie got in he’d load it with the likes of Paddy the Plasterer and Opus Mullen (who he gave a leg up into the Senate).

  22. fill3rup says:

    Thats what i was getting at Capn..
    Any constitutional change that opposes church law could just be held up and dissappeared..

    Is there a Book Depository in Dublin?

  23. itchybollix says:

    There was a documentary about Bertie recently which featured his mates – and Mary Harney spouting on about if she knew this and that i.e Ray Burke affair where Bertie asssured her he’d looked up every tree and she believed him * cough she’d have pulled the plug, but, because she’s a fan of power and money she’s hung on in with the cunts – anyhow. It featured his frieds like Tim Collins – http://www.independent.ie/national-news/de-valera-lost-second-battle-of-the-boyne-129366.html

    and Joe Burke, another beauty…whatever happened the investiagtion into the allegation of sexual assault against him?

    Anyhow, again. One of Berties friends said in that documentary that “when Bertie looks at himself in the mirror he asks himself “Can I trust you?”

    If this is what his friends say…as they say , you can judge the character of a man by the company he keeps”

    As for Joe Burke, Bertie appointed his mate as head of the Dublin Docklands Development Authority. He probably can’t even tell a boat from a yacht.

    Jobs for the boys and what a bunch of cunts those froends of Bertie Ahern are.

    rant, rant.

    I’m off to the big smoke now to get tickets for this. Seems appropriate. Do you not need a tax clearance cert to be prez?

    http://dublintheatrefestival.com/programme/display.asp?Eventid=447

  24. Capt Con says:

    At the moment I believe Ahern as a member of the Dail is picking up salary and expenses despite having no valid tax certificate.

    Are members of the Dail exempt from Revenue Commission investigation?

  25. Conan Drumm says:

    “Opus Mullen (who he gave a leg up into the Senate)”

    Occurs to me the Senator may actually have been elected on the ‘educational’ panel… in which case it’s the cilice for me for the rest of the day.

  26. mellow says:

    If he runs and DOESNT get it, I will be VERY SUPRISED!

  27. Icarus says:

    If only one person runs, there should still be an election, with the other option being re-open nominations.

    He’s got a brass fucking neck testing the water after the shit he’s responsible for.

  28. Mossy says:

    “Have to say though,he isn’t looking too healthy at the moment,looks a bit Gouty..”

    Oh I DO SO hope so.

  29. Capt Con says:

    The old saying about politics being the art of controlling one’s environment is true … Blair is a narcissistic sociopath and Ahern is just a criminal who can talk to a crowd.

    Both of them were able to manipulate the truth about themselves into something acceptable on television.

    For a while. The truth does come out over time and if people knew back then what they know about both Blair and Ahern neither of them would be regarded as electable. Or even acceptable as neighbours.

    There’s a reason why Ronan Callely decided to try his hand at politics last year and its possibly because he’s unemployed, had a dad who (was) a FF senator and Trinity hadn’t worked out for some reason.

    And its instantly more profitable expenses-wise than a real job in a real company and you can get away with murder as recent Irish political history shows.

  30. Holemaster says:

    The point about the Vatican is very important and very real. To the Vatican, our President is their Governor General in Ireland and their main function is to maintain the Catholic State and influence opinion and law. In certain circumstances, they are in effect a spy.

    I know Sam Crea hates me going on about this but it’s true. My parents were embedded in Catholic organisations so I’ve been exposed to the workings of these people. I know how Opus Dei recruit and how they exclude the poor from their ranks and seek out professionals and wealthy individuals as patrons. It’s not about the teaching of God. It’s about maintaining control within a small circle of people.

    There’s a vein like reinforced concrete running through the structures and institutions of this state. It’s only exposed when the cracks appear. Cracks like systematic abuse of poor children.

  31. maggot says:

    Ah, explains the handshake with Ronan.

  32. itchybollix says:

    Big Bird, aka Mary Robinson, was a great start to where the presidency could go in the future but then things reverted to type when Lenihan snr was caught out lying and we ended up with this catholic loon in there. And we only got her because Bertie fucked over Albert Reynolds. Albert Reynolds or Mary McAleese? That’s like a choice between the clap and crabs. And then this time we didn’t even have an election.

    Referring to HM and the structure of this shithole of a country -yesterday Andrew Neil said on The Politics Show that he was deeply concerned about the relationship and controls between the conservative party, the police and news international, referring to the fact that the cops are doing nothing about the wholesale eavesdropping of peoples mobile phones by a news international paper under the editorship of the current conservative head of communications.

    I have the same concerns about FF, the cops and Independent Newspapers. Bertie should be in jail, no cops in jail over donegal, no prob for rennicks paying ray burke a chunk of money.

    It’s a sick country and should be put out of it’s misery.

  33. SwingsAndFeckinRoundabouts says:

    I can’t believe that this the the same fuckin’ cunt whose excuses at the Mahon Tribunal were all in the category of
    “The Dog ate me Homework” – Sir.

  34. SwingsAndFeckinRoundabouts says:

    Typo: I can’t believe that this is the same fuckin’ cunt

  35. Holden McCock says:

    It’s almost inevitable that this monumental cunt will get the Presidency. He’ll be on tv spouting the same unchallenged bollocks that he left office when there was full employment, everyone had mercs and domestic slaves and a great time was had by all thanks to King Bertie. Sure how was he supposed to know that Lehmans was going to fuck everything up. CUNT is not a strong enough word to describe this fucker.

    On the Bertie Bowl, McDowell said there was something very Ceaucescu-esque about it. he was right. As someone mentioned above, he claims to be an LSE graduate. Just like Kim Jong Il got 18 holes in one in his first game of golf. What a deluded prick. He really does have the mentality of some peasant, tin pot dictator.

    Anyway, ultimately I think more people in this Cuntry are lamenting the demise of Fianna Fail as opposed to wanting to burn the cunts out. It’s trully scary how many people still admire Bertie the cunt either grudgingly or unashamedly.

    If he runs, which he most certainly will, the Aras will be his and his grubby little, pope bothering cohorts. Nothing new there I suppose. De Valera sent a draft of the 1937 Constitution over to the Vatican for approval. That’s right. A foreign state got a say in what was and wasn’t acceptable in our Constitution. Fianna Fail Cunts!

  36. Holemaster says:

    H McC, the problem is most people would have approved of that at the time (sending draft of constitution to the Vatican) because they were so brainwashed by the church. The perceived common enemy was the ‘Brits’. Anything to make the country overtly Catholic was seen as a fuck you to Britain. How wrong they were.

  37. on the dry says:

    wish i was back in spankys in bangkok. the last cunt i want to think about is bertie ahern

  38. Crank says:

    Meanwhile, in what may be the quote of the year:

    “Meanwhile, former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern, who appointed the senator in 2007, said the investigations into Mr Callely’s affairs were damaging to politics. “It does nobody any good when any of the stuff comes out. It’s pathetic for politics and everybody knows that,” he said.”

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/callely-provides-written-account-of-phone-expenses-2331033.html

  39. Twenty Major says:

    Yeah, stick up for Ivor in case he lands you in it.

    Ivor who took the fall for getting his house painted while Bertie filled his safe with presents from his Man United supporting friends.

    It’s a joke.

  40. Capt Con says:

    I have my doubts as to whether FF or the shiteocracy among certain heritage organisations have the pull to get a one horse race arranged for Ahern.

    I can’t see any way that the University crew would allow that gobshite a solo run and they can put up candidates without reference to anyone else.

    It’d be one good way of stiring up an absolute hornets nest as well for anyone backing that little rag on a run at the Presidency. The fact that the only rumours about him running seem to be creeping out from under the door at Fagans is fairly significant.

    He won’t run if a humiliation or forced withdrawal is on the cards and that would be highly likely.

    Blair thought he was a sure thing for Presidency of Europe but he was overlooked in favour of what appears to be a Norfolk horse.

    I suspect with these people its a case of testing the water by ‘letting it be known’ and the only question is who is going to tell them straight that their day is finished.

    Mind you the tribunal reports may finish Ahern’s career unless FF managed to ‘fix’ those as well.

  41. maggot says:

    Holemaster – Dev was a crafty cunt – he involved the Vatican so he could play the Irish Hierarchy off against HQ – and avoided being stuck with something along the lines that Franco fixed up with the Vatican.

  42. Capt Con says:

    Clearest indication yet Twenty that Callely has something interesting on Ahern.

    Note the thing that interests Ahern is the disrepute into which the truth might drag politics.

    Ahern denounces truth in favour of keeping everything quiet shocker…

  43. Holemaster says:

    Maggot. I don’t know anything about Franco and the Vatican but would love to read up on it. And also wondered how Italians were going around riding each other without the Catholic guilt thing getting in the way.

  44. The Ahern nomination reminds me of the bit in Catch-22 where Yosarian fucks up so badly that the commanding officers don’t know how to discipline him….

    …so in the end they give him a medal.

  45. Holemaster says:

    Hah!

  46. oh no says:

    bertie looks like shit because he wont spend 30 grand a year of his money(or any that is just handed fo no reason) to him on make up.

  47. Action Man says:

    Thats it!

    I’ve had more than enough of that stuttering little shite. Where does he live?

  48. DD says:

    No l’oreal, because you’re not worth it.

  49. on the dry says:

    time for stout

  50. Capt Con says:

    Action Man; “Thats it!

    I’ve had more than enough of that stuttering little shite. Where does he live?”

    For expenses purposes or really?

  51. Action Man says:

    Capt: Heh! Burn the fucking lot of em down!

  52. Capt Con says:

    Knowing Ahern he’s probably living in a St Vincent de Paul Shelter. In case of ‘de, de, de Revenue’.

  53. itchybollix says:

    welcome home OTD.

    Note for anybody wanting to go to The National. I popped into the box office this afternoon and had a chat with the nice dude working there. I was explaining to him how I wanted to book tickets now and pick out some nice seats. Preferably a box. In both senses. He said I can’t pre-book but. There is a second date. So pop in at 10.30 when it opens and then I can pick nice seats. But I have a horrible feeling that the 2nd date will sell out too on the www and I’ll be left with nothing. Shit.

    Get this. Enron, the play, is on the Gaeity but they don’t sell tickets for a show on their own premises.

    - Hi. Can I have two good seats for Enron?
    - We don’t sell the tickets.
    - This is The Gaeity?
    - Yes.
    - And the play is on here?
    - Yes.
    - But you don’t sell the tickets?
    - No.
    - Oh.

    You’ve to cross the liffey and head into Essex Street. Now that’s fucking stupid. But. I did find a new bookshop I wasn’t aware of on Essez Street. I think it’s a marxist shop but I picked up a copy of 100 years of solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez in it so it can’t be all bad. Connollys, beside The Project Arts Theatre.

    Berie Ahern is still a cunt. He told a lie to Ryan Turbridy on The Late, Late, Late Show. He told Turbridy that he lives in a semi-d. He lives in a detached house. Slimey cunt trying to appeal to the common man. Turbridy of course didn’t pick him up on it.

    He lives in a semi d in Drumcondra actionman. It looks like a detached house and it probably has a guard and a driver for when he wants to go for a pint. Or back a horse. Or go to the bank and change his wages into sterling, then back into euro, then into dollars and then back into euro. Why? Because he was in the process of getting divorced. makes perfect sense.

  54. itchybollix says:

    ah bollix. I know it’s not very PC but I’m complaining. It appears that FF may be going to put up a guy for the president who is in a wheelchair. That’s like the blind fella who was in big brother. It’s certainly a competitive advantage. Alternative candidates would have to have a limb missing or have a balls-on-chin sort of defect.

  55. Holemaster says:

    I’m going for a Bertie. Shouldn’t need much bog roll.

  56. fill3rup says:

    I think Cap’n came up with a good idea..I would alter it slightly though..

    Anyone in public office that is proved to have taken the piss,expenses wise or Govt Jet wise or whatever..
    Should be set aflame and Catapulted off the Cliffs of Moher…at night..on the 9 Oclock news..

    ..”Thanks for the Racing news there Colm.Now over to County Clare for tonights cleansing and let me tell you,Michael Fingleton is looking a bit nervous at the moment,isn’t that right Anne Doyle?”…

    Hey..I can dream!

  57. itchybollix says:

    over to Sean Whelan filler

    “this is broadly in line with expectations”

    * i.e. from my source the governemt press secretary at FF HQ. Any piece of economic data, no matter how horrendous, is always, in Sean Whelans words “Broadly in line with expectations.”

  58. john and edward says:

    He’ll get our votes if he runs,we loooooove him.

  59. maggot says:

    Bertie makes Berlusconi look good.

  60. Brian Capture says:

    Gombeen.

    Sleveen.

    Shoneen.

    Cute hoor.

    Cunt.

    If he gets in will Vincent Keaney confront him? If not, we should hurl stone models of the Titanic through Keaney’s front window.

    Brian.

  61. Conan Drumm says:

    Seems the powers are listening to common sense… but slowly enough so the farmers can get a lobby against it up and running…

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0908/1224278428278.html

  62. maggot says:

    Many Farmers are cunts.

  63. Holemaster says:

    Just saw that link here maggot. Thanks.

  64. maggot says:

    Yep – there were clerics in Ireland pushing for the same sort of thing – scary thought.

  65. Holemaster says:

    Wow. Eye opening. They more or less demanded diplomatic status and payment in gold for their blessing. Crooked bastards.

  66. maggot says:

    Only one sort of Worship allowed in Public and no way would the clerical scandals have been investigated properly …

  67. Peadar says:

    It’s a general election as far as I can tell SG. But if only one person is nominated, there is no election. And that happens a lot.

    I think that only happens when an existing president goes for a second term. Has a new president ever got in unopposed? I don’t think so but perhaps i’m wrong

  68. itchybollix says:

    ok. Post 69. dinner for two.

    i know

    it’s late and I’m drunk

    first off. play this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvSgLHWR16o

    loud

    second off.

    I had the most amazing small town local/national political discussion tonight with a good friend regarding Brian Cowen, Mary Hanafin and two other people who if I mention now would blow the story. I sent an email to the phoenix about it just now, will let you know if it gets somewhere. It’s a prime example of what’s fucked up about this shithole of a country, not the fact that mary hanafin is still leaving the option open for her teachers pension, as well as all her other pensions (i oh so hope she’s fucked out on her ear in the next election, greedy bitch) – local politicians with egos saying to themselves – “What’s in it for me” – not what’s the bigger picture. stupid cunts.

    play phantogram loud. good luck. you’ll need it.

    I’m still stunned about what I heard tonight. Or maybe I’m just blotto. or both. No. I’m just stunned about the politics. And naive. for all my bluster i’m still a naive fool.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvSgLHWR16o

    yes. twice is good.

  69. Itchy, let me tell you about my goldfish ……

    A few years ago meself and the girlfriend got a couple of guppies or platties or whatever the feck they were and set them in a nice 20-litre tank with a few plants, an ultra-violet light and a semi-detached filter. We called them Fang and Bruce. Dead relaxing it was to watch them. Well it turned out that either Fang or Bruce was a girlie guppy because within a couple of months we were spotting a bunch of sperm-like little ‘uns scurrying around the coarse sand on the bottom of the tank. Granted most of them got eaten by Mummy and Daddy but two managed to hide in the plants long enough to grow out of their handily devourable sizes. Being unimaginative types, we decided to call the newcomers Fang and Bruce as well.

    Well you’ve got to give those hardy little buggers some credit because they kept on breeding and kept on growing and within a year or so we had about twenty Fangs and Bruces bustling for room in what was beginning to look like an aquatic Grafton Street at rush hour. Naturally after about five generations of inbreeding, some decidedly odd looking fishies began to appear. We called one Zorro because his perfectly ‘Z’-shaped backbone. I was half expecting someday to see a fish with fingers instead of fins. (sort of like the reverse of what happens on Achill Island).

    Sadly, one hot summer we went on holidays for a week. The brother-in-law dropped in during the week to feed the lads and noticed nothing wrong. But a day later one of them must have died and the combination of decomposition and heat probably turned the water rancid within hours. By the time we got back there was nothing left to save and everything had to be flushed down the jacks while holding our breaths.

    It just seemed so futile, all those years, all those generations, all the infighting, all that effort in remembering their names (even though the names were all the same), all flushed away in one foul swoop. We had to ask ourselves was it really worth the bother?

    ….my point is Itchy – don’t bother reading A Hundred Years of Solitude.
    I’ve just told you the plot.

  70. on the dry says:

    thanks itchy ‘had agreat time ended up in patong in phuket that singha would cut the hole of yeah.

  71. Larry says:

    Thanks for that most interesting link Maggot.
    (And thanks for last year’s link to Paul Blashard’s book, The Irish And Catholic Power. Found a copy on Amazon. Great.)

    Back to Franco’s Condorat.
    If anyone reads through it, down to Article 16, you’ll see the following…

    4. In cases of criminal proceedings being taken against clergy or those in Religious Orders for other offences under the Spanish penal code, the Holy See will allow these to be heard in the State courts. However, before proceeding, the judicial authorities must seek, without prejudice to the case and with due discretion, the agreement of the Ordinary in the district where the case is to be heard. Should the Ordinary feel that there are serious reasons for denying consent, these must be given in writing to the appropriate authority. Every attempt must be made to avoid any publicity in respect of the proceedings. The outcome of the proceedings and the final decision in the case must be diligently notified to the appropriate Ordinary.

    5. When clergy or those in Religious Orders are detained or arrested they will be treated with the consideration due to their state and position. Prison sentences will be served in a Church or religious house which, in the judgement of the local Ordinary and the relevant State authority, offers suitable guarantees. Sentences will not be served in facilities where there are lay people unless the relevant Church authorities have demoted the person concerned to the lay state. They will be allowed bail and any other benefits established in law.

    Hmmm…
    Sounds familiar.

  72. Larry says:

    More and more similarities to Ireland when you read through that Concordat.

    Article 26

    In all centres of education, of whatever type or level, both public and private, teaching will conform to the principles of the dogma and morality of the Catholic Church.

    The Ordinaries may freely exercise vigilance over said centres of education in respect of the purity of the Faith, good habits and religious education.

    The Ordinaries can demand that books, publications and educational materials contrary to Catholic dogma and morality are prohibited or withdrawn.

    Article 27

    1. The Spanish State guarantees the teaching of the Catholic religion as a regular and obligatory subject in all centres of education, both public and private, of all types and levels.

    *************************************

    Article 29

    The State will ensure that the institutions and services that form public opinion, in particular radio and television channels, give a proper position to the exposition and defence of the true religion by designated priests and religious, in agreement with the respective Ordinary.

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    Article 31

    1. The Church may freely exercise the right to establish and govern public schools of all types and grades, including secular ones, according to Canon 1.375 of the Code of Canon Law.

  73. maggot says:

    Larry – there are a couple of Blanshard books online as free downloads.

    You might be interested in this as well

    http://www.raco.cat/index.php/QuadernsICA/article/viewFile/136827/231605

    “When Browne spoke out against the use of corporal punishment in the 1950s his argument was rebuffed by the Minister for Education and future Taoiseach, Jack Lynch, who bolstered his argument by citing Catholic teaching and Pope Pius XII’s Encyclical on ‘The Christian Education of Youth’.”

  74. itchybollix says:

    ah feck ye lung

    the national are adding more dates to the olympia than you had goldfish

  75. maggot says:

    Guppies aren’t goldfish. Interesting little fuckers – been used to control malaria in some parts of the world.

  76. noddy says:

    Put him in there to remind everyone what a fucked up farce the country is.

  77. Christy says:

    I can’t decide whether he is stupid to hope people will be fooled twice or I am stupid to hope they won’t

  78. itchybollix says:

    As Bertie once said, on purpose, smoke and daggers..

    The Phoenix Mag has an interesting story. Remember the shock and awe PR blitz by the boys in blue when an alleged 10 million worth of cigarettes were seized on a ship in Dundalk last year? And then there were no charges and nobody ever mentioned it again?

    Well, same again here. 200 million of counterfeit cash, 3 printing presses, underground tunnles, ak-47′s, shock and awe PR tactics by Phoenix Park cops and now. Silence. Still no charges. Smoke and daggers I say.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0602/breaking9.html

  79. Holemaster says:

    I’m still reeling at that Concordat. The arrogance is astonishing. I can only assume the same applied to Ireland.

    Article 29 explains RTE, the great PR vessel of the Catholic Church.

  80. itchybollix says:

    Sinead O’Connor for prez. She’d rip up the constitution, dump all this catholic shit out of the constitution and get us all wasted on saturday night.

  81. maggot says:

    HM – It’s one of the reasons I gave dev my vote on the P.ie poll on who was ireland’s greatest Taoiseach – astonishingly some people have voted for Cowen and Ahern!

    He managed to avoid getting that sort on nonsense into the irish Constitution although to some extent it happened anyway

    In an address to the King’s Inn Law Students’ Debating Society in 1951, Attorney General C.F. Casey articulated the government’s dilemma:
    The subject … had received much publicity in recent years and efforts had been made to prevail upon the Government to introduce legislation dealing with it, and severe criticism on this has been leveled against the Government for its failure to introduce a Bill. I would ask those who are concerned on this topic to be patient and to avoid emotion … This country is a predominantly Catholic country. That does not mean that Parliament should penalise any other creed, but it does mean this, that Parliament cannot surely be asked to introduce legislation contrary to the teaching of that great Church. (36)
    (36.) Catholic Standard, 16 February 1951, 1.
    Foreign adoptions and the evolution of Irish adoption policy, 1945-52
    Journal of Social History , Winter, 2002 by Moira J. Maguire

  82. maggot says:

    Sinead or Pat Buckley itchy.

  83. Larry says:

    That site with all the info about the various Concordats.
    It seems to have no link to Irish ones, although it mentions a lot of other countries.

    Where is the info on Ireland?

  84. maggot says:

    I don’t think they ever signed a concordat Larry

  85. Larry says:

    All under the counter so.
    Nod and wink.

  86. Ass-per-usual says:

    He’s one cuntariffic motherfucker allright, if he get’s elected I’m officially going to do some nasty stuff, real nasty stuff, stuff that’s so nasty ye won’t believe just how nasty it is and you’ll be asking your mates if they saw that nasty shit that just went down on the news.

    I dunno what it is yet, but nasty..for sure.

  87. Mosheen says:

    Is there a ratemytaoiseach.com yet?

  88. Bray-Root says:

    if ne does not get the presidency he is going to run for Dublin Mayor

    SO AS USUAL
    He is in a win win situation and we Irish get fucked in the ass regardless

  89. Anne says:

    Isn’t he just a shameless cu cu cu cunt.

  90. itchybollix says:

    heheh at it all

  91. The Cap'n says:

    He seems to have an inordinate desire to be shot in the head.

    Ke-ke-keep going Bertie.

  92. Pat Mulcahy says:

    We had “The Long Fella” as president why not “The Stuttering Fella”

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