Adrian Weckler’s comparison is excellent – what a shame somebody with such little understanding of the situation, like Justice Peter Charelton, can be allowed make judgements like this.
And more from Digital Rights Ireland.
Adrian Weckler’s comparison is excellent – what a shame somebody with such little understanding of the situation, like Justice Peter Charelton, can be allowed make judgements like this.
And more from Digital Rights Ireland.
So eircom was sued by major labels because people used their internet service to exchange copyright material. so therefore smith and wesson are sued everytime someone gets shot.
If I used a teaspoon to go on a killing spree does that mean newbridge cutlery should put their lawyers on stand-by?
No doubt chris de burghs label didnt threaten to sue eircom. no-one would download that fuckers shite.
Murty- I’m surprised anyone can afford newbridge cutlery these days!
That judge is a delightful little clown, lets hope when it comes to murder and the like he’s a little more au fait with the finer details!
From the comments: “All hail clueless judges getting manipulated by greedy, soul-less & faceless corporations. Let’s hope the Irish people will soon rise up against this travesty.”
Wah ha, ha. Ahh ha ha ha ha haaaa. Waaaaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Excuse me , just to get this right in my head.
Is Adrian Weckler saying that downloading is the same principle as BASF tape copying type thing?
The European Parliament voted overwhelmingly (407/57) to pass an amendment last May preventing member states from adopting this ’3-strikes-and-out’ policy. They said that it was damaging to the ‘Fundamental Rights and Freedom of Internet Users’.
Subsequently, I really can’t understand why the Record Companies persist with this bullshit. If it ever is successful in getting someone cut off the Internet they could very easily sue the bastards, and win.
Hopefully the rest of the ISP’s in the country will get their act together and refuse to co-operate.
One thing is absolutely certain. This will not have the desired effect. The very opposite is much more likely, and personally I can’t wait to see it happen.
From Laurence Lessig “Copyright laws were originally put in place to protect artists. However, today they seem mainly to serve corporate interests and effectively they prohibit further creativity”.
This judgement is no different or worse than the Mandelson media mogul lapdog sponsored Digital Bill that is going to or has become the law in the UK.
The law being introduced is no matter how invidious, nothing more than archaic Victorian legislation put in place to take into account the Spinola and other mechanical music playing devices and digital media. It does not just affect music, film it is stifling research and innovation in medicine, technology itself blah blah
Sadly this is not an Irish problem it is a problem for all of us. Check out this talk on TED
http://www.ted.com/talks/larry_lessig_says_the_law_is_strangling_creativity.html
and Lessig’s blog here:
http://www.lessig.org/blog
Badische Anilin und Soda Fabrik to the lot of you
This is a good example of Ireland being used as a testing ground for how far citizens and laws can be pressured before the ideas are implemented wholesale around the world.
Oh reading that was like listening to my Dad who calls it ‘that Internet trick’ and ‘the Facebook yoke, y’know, that thing on the Internet’.
Groan.
Earlier today the Italian courts ruled that ISP’s couldn’t be held responsible for what their users did on-line, rejecting calls for monitoring and blocking sites/users.
Obviously the Record Companies underestimated the size of the necessary bribe, having had such an easy time of it here.
“Julius Hubris – Murty- I’m surprised anyone can afford newbridge cutlery these days!”
If you’re going to go on a killing spree do it with a bit of class!
honestly though – where does the buck stop with responsibility? ISP’s get done for providing the service but the downloads are done on programs that facilitate the downloading of copyright material so the creators of these programs should be guilty by association. And the laptops/pc’s we use – step up HP, Dell etc
I mean in theory you could sue Michael Dell or Bill Gates. Or their parents.
I´ve always said that people have to be made responsible for their own actions. It reminds me of these fuckers that break into your home to rob you blind and have an accident and then sue you for negligence because you left your kids matchbox car in the middle of the floor.
It’s commercial interests, innit. All internet control is argued for on the issue of illegal and hateful forms of porno-crime. The real agenda is the protection of corporate intellectual property ‘rights’. But what would the er, learned, judge make of Google’s corporate absorption of books and publications without the authors’ express permission?
Btw, I seldom hear the digital privacy advocates giving out about stat counters which can reveal a lot of ‘private’ information about interwebular travellers.
The Laughable thing is Willie Kavanagh and Imro stating that its a victory for artists and musicians in Ireland..This is the same IMRO that many musician friends and aquaintances have had to chase for months and years for royalties from?..Cunt..
I just made my own internet out of gossiping women. Stuff is traveling faster than any internet connection. One them told me something that I was just about tell her. Incredible.
When an internet user gets accused of downloading illegally and they settle out of court or recieve a fine, guess what percentage of that money goes to the artist or musician?
Most of it goes to the solicitors, and about 10% or less goes to the record company. The artist gets nothing.
That’s ‘victory’.
If record companies were beacons of financial propriety in regard to their artists one might have a modicum of sympathy for them. But the number of artists who will readily attest to being ripped off by record companies could be counted in the tens of thousands.
To put the record companies on notice – tomorrow I will go to my local library, borrow 6 CDs, copy them, and return them. I will repeat this behaviour weekly.
I suggest that my local library be shut down immediately and be forced to pay punitive damages, and that the road to the library be closed forthwith, otherwise I and others will continue with our copyright enfringement.