Monsignor Maurice Dooley explains it all
Posted on | March 15, 2010 | 58 Comments
Clip via Today with Pat Kenny, RTE Radio 1, March 15th 2010 – link to full show
This is the kind of fucked up thinking that brought about the abuse of so many Irish children, why so many lives were ruined, and why even now there’s no sense of doing the right thing. Mostly because they don’t know what the right thing is.
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March 15th, 2010 @ 6:36 pm
Give the man a chance, he was agreat hurler.
March 15th, 2010 @ 6:41 pm
How did he get away with that ? Church teaching is that they are the voice of God.
March 15th, 2010 @ 6:57 pm
It’s basically “we’ll do what we want” of course, since they are the Word of God. Fuckwit! I’ve never felt as disgusted as hearing him earlier. I was stunned. And these people are meant to be some sort of moral compass for us? Who turn a blind eye to suffering children? I could weep.
March 15th, 2010 @ 7:09 pm
I almost expected him to come out with “That would be an ecumenical matter..”!
March 15th, 2010 @ 7:39 pm
It’s as if you were passing by and saw Brendan Smith in the middle of his worst crimes in a neighbour’s front garden, and then Dooley steps out from behind the hedge and says, “Nothing to see here, now move along!”
March 15th, 2010 @ 7:41 pm
I really can’t listen to any more of these fuckers today. If I do, I’ll be compelled to go out and shove a bargepole up the parish priest’s arse.
Sideways.
Too many excuses, too many apologists, no compassion, no humanity. They should just be thankful they didn’t do it to one of my kids. I’d happily do time if they had.
March 15th, 2010 @ 7:43 pm
One question though. What the fuck did Brady and his superiors think they were doing interviewing 14-year-old kids without their parents or guardians being present and then getting these minors to sign purportedly legal documents?
Crimes. Where does one fucking start?
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:16 pm
You start in Maynooth Crank,and work yer way up…
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:17 pm
The unmistakable sneer in his voice-sadly, however, it is justified. They WILL get away with it and the WILL still be controlling anything worth controlling in Ireland into the future.
Ireland is now the gang-land of Europe. The priests and their lickspittle twisted sisters will close ranks, scare the shite out of ‘the faithful’ and use every bit of Confessional-obtained dirt at their disposal to cow the politicians into obesiance.
Only when their fetid blood starts running in the streets will anything change…and that ‘aint going to happen because GOD FORBID that the law be flouted.
You know what Twenty – it’s so fucking evil and inevitable that it really is not worth blogging about anymore. Nobody reading this will do a goddam thing….can we go back to the old days and your light hearted fatuousness??
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:21 pm
I recollect from the many joyful Sunday morning hours of Welsh Chapel Sunday School that the law of God is the ten commandments and the two big tablets of stone that Moses brought down from the mountain.
Where does he and his vile bastard colleagues find shelter and solace from the 10 commandments – the law of God?
There is no commandment from the Lord that states that you are not allowed to abuse vulnerable children for your own f****d version of sexual/psychological gratification. You cannot boil a kid in it’s mother’s milk but nothing there.
Burn Catholic Churches, not headshops…
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:24 pm
I’m listening to the Pat Kenny – DIE! DIE! DIE! – Show and it’s so depressing I’m heading out to watch the 2nd half of Liverpool v Portsmouth
The detail of the fact that the goverenment of the day held up the extradition of Smyth for 7 months wasn’t addressed in this article;
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0315/1224266294163.html
anyone with a memory of it I’d appreciate the knowledge.
Dooley kicks in at about 13 mins into the radio show
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:31 pm
He’s using language in a 51% – 49% correct manner to win an argument that is 100% ….fuck it…he’s not worth the fucking energy.
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:38 pm
26 mins in he say’s the bishops were given wrong info by the shrinks of the child-abusing priests and that’s why nothing was done.
fucking bertie and the tribunal stuff here
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:50 pm
Most of the recent defence from the church seems to depend on semantics. Maybe, as a favour to the church I’ll stick a dictionary up the parish priest’s hole instead.
It won’t be the conscise edition either.
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:51 pm
*concise even. (Apologies, dictionary away being greased…)
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:57 pm
Itchy – rumours abounded
Reports began to circulate in Dublin that the process of extraditing Father Brendan Smyth was being deliberately delayed in response to a request made at the highest levels by the Catholic Church. Democratic Left Deputy Pat Rabbitte referred in the Dail to the possible existence of a document that would ‘rock the foundations of this society to its very roots.’ He seems to have had in mind the rumoured existence of a letter written by Cardinal Cathal Daly to Harry Whelehan.
In this letter the Cardinal is supposed to have interceded on behalf of Father Brendan Smyth and requested that his extradition be delayed. No evidence has been produced that such a letter ever existed. Yet as a direct result of the rumours that now swept the country, Whelehan would be forced to resign as High Court President and the Reynolds Government would fall, amidst talk of a dark conspiracy involving politicians, members of Opus Dei, the Knights of Columbanus and others. This conspiracy was allegedly seeking to cover up the activities of paedophile priests.
Nothing was ever proven
http://www.alliancesupport.org/news/archives/002571.html
You might find this from the National Catholic Reporter in 1994 interesting
Smyth has been quoted from prison to the effect that he will reveal other priest abusers if the church does not protect his interests.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n6_v31/ai_15985421/
I doubt we will ever know the full truth – could be a scenario like the Rose Tattoo, may have been linked to the troubles, a reluctance to facilitate one extradition in case the British started to ask for On The Runs to be extradited.
March 15th, 2010 @ 8:59 pm
you gotta think bigger crank, c’mon
http://i40.tinypic.com/qqcrih.jpg
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:03 pm
you gotta feel for liverpool fans; maggot – will check that later
Gangsta Agger on 606: “Am I the only Liverpool fan who is still nervous about seeing this one through?”
cypherspace on Twitter: “News just in from Department of the Bleeding Obvious: Aquilani better than Lucas. Can someone make sure Rafa gets this memo?”
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:14 pm
How anyone could hear this and not get the gawks with anger is beyond me.
I’m with papalamour (although how can someone called Papal Amour want to burn the Wan Thrue Church?). The “moral terrorists” that are trying to cleanse the country of the evils of designer drugs could really be putting all that energy to better use.
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:19 pm
This Rory Connor chap is interesting – Have a look at that alliancesupport site and then look at the response to complaint he made to RTE
NB – this downloads a word document
http://tiny.cc/P4WNs
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:29 pm
Along with the subject of this and the previous blog post, I present more absolute proof that the Irish are irredeemable, cretinous cunts of the highest order.
http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2010/pc/pod-v-120310-26m14s-livelineshamrock.mp3
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:39 pm
Jesus – what utter bollix – the St Patrick and Shamrock thing is a myth!
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:46 pm
Anyone in the mood for trolling this cunt’s thread?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055850411
Gosh, I hate boards.ie…
March 15th, 2010 @ 9:57 pm
Sure why stop there Itchy?
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:06 pm
Bookcase without a bible ? Hmmmmmmm
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:17 pm
That’s trumped me crank. Sideways.
There’s that horse which bertie won the money on too.
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:18 pm
Heh Itchy. Brass. Like his neck.
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:24 pm
Whelehan should be rolled out to tell all he knows going by that maggot. twenty is right; one law for plebs and another one for the good and the great
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:24 pm
MORE AUDIO:
Colm O’Gorman v Monsignor Maurice Dooley on The Last Word
http://www.todayfm.com/Shows/Weekdays/Matt-Cooper/Matt-Cooper-Blog/10-03-15/Colm_O_Gorman_v_Monsignor_Maurice_Dooley.aspx?ReturnURL=%2fShows%2fWeekdays%2fMatt-Cooper%2fMatt-Cooper-Blog.aspx
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:41 pm
Did some research – Brady made the Children take an Oath of Secrecy.
But in Catholic teaching – Summa Theologica, article 10 in link – Children under the age of 14 or before Puberty are debarred from swearing.
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3089.htm
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:43 pm
Whelehan was involved in the X case as well
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article7035006.ece
March 15th, 2010 @ 10:44 pm
this is unfucking believable. The nerve of these cunts. Im dumbstruck
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:02 pm
You know what Twenty – it’s so fucking evil and inevitable that it really is not worth blogging about anymore. Nobody reading this will do a goddam thing….can we go back to the old days and your light hearted fatuousness??
I do wonder about that, whether it’s worth blogging … in a preaching to the converted way. Shit like that clip though, I think it’s better saying something than nothing.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:09 pm
“I believe that is not fair to judge the actions of thirty-five years ago by the standards we are living today”. Sweet suffering Jesus, the man is saying that although it’s not on today to sexually abuse children, it was o.k. back then.I think my head is going to explode.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:15 pm
I do wonder about that, whether it’s worth blogging … in a preaching to the converted way.
They can put pressure on governments and politicians, they can try to put pressure on the media – but they have no influence on bloggers. Anything that gets information into the public domain can only do good. Whether it will do enough good is a different matter.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:37 pm
Every little bit helps. You can be sure the PR people of the church read this blog. So it does no harm to have them read first hand the views of most people with half a brain.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:42 pm
Yea, keep on keeping on, Twenty. At least, by giving us this space to vent, it stops me biting the dog.
Colm O’Gorman is truly one of the most articulate people around. I am in awe. He shows up cunts like that wanker Dooley for what they truly are. Apologists for the unforgivable.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:47 pm
I heard this insane fart on the PK show this morning. I thought this evil sick twisted wanker Dooley was demon-possessed when I heard the bullshit he was saying live on air. He was saying basically the clergy can do whatever they want and screw the victims and society in general. I wish he was raped and beaten himself. What a bastard inhuman monster he is. Brady is a shit 2.
March 15th, 2010 @ 11:56 pm
brenda power will be defending them again in the irish times on saturday
March 16th, 2010 @ 12:39 am
If you still attend Catholic church, you are a supporter of child abusers. End of fucking story.
March 16th, 2010 @ 12:43 am
Twenty, if you were’nt putting it out there and providing the space there would be crimes committed. I know I’d be done for damage to Cathedral doors, and that would only generate sympathy for the hypocrites.
March 16th, 2010 @ 1:13 am
its possible its not necessary to do a goddamn thing. What twenty and people like him are doing is reminding us. I dont think about the bigger things in life in my everyday existence, I worry about bills and what that stain is underneath my monitor and why is it spreading. I wince at the news, its fucking depressing. I and ‘sortof’ fairly decent people like me need to be reminded and poked and cajoled just in case we mindlessly throw a few quid in a church plate at a wedding, vote fianna fail in a hungover stuper or buy a damien rice album in the bargain bucket
March 16th, 2010 @ 1:23 am
brenda power will be defending them again in the irish times on saturday
Haven’t seen anything by B.P. Itchy but the IT is decidedly hostile -
Patsy McGarry
It matters little if Cardinal Brady resigns for he and the church he leads is damaged beyond repair
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0316/1224266350973.html
Opinion
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0316/1224266351775.html
March 16th, 2010 @ 8:14 am
sharia law in milltown and clonskeagh think about that one
March 16th, 2010 @ 8:52 am
Gluey is both right and wrong. Yes, we Irish will complain and bitch in the pub but do very little in the way of real action. It’s the cowed mentality of a population that’s been ruled over for centuries. However, when it comes to the welfare our kids, things change.
If I lived in Ireland today, I would not even contemplate sending my kid to anything but a secular school. If there weren’t enough secular schools available, I’d be breaking down my TD’s door demanding a non-denominational education for my brat. There’s no way my son is getting within spitting distance of some collared Darth Vader.
There must be thousands of Irish parents who now feel the same way, mustn’t there? If so, the next generation will be free of the clutches of Rome and we might actually become the Republic we’ve always claimed to be. It’ll be slow but it’s coming.
March 16th, 2010 @ 9:31 am
‘collared Darth Vader’ heh. Thats good. Don’t worry lads by the time the 2012 Eucharistic Congress swings ’round it’ll all be forgotten.
There’ll be statchoos a-rocking and a rolling in every parish.
Has anyone asked the Holy Shtump of Rathkeale for a quote?
“I like to sing-a, I like to wobble-a”
March 16th, 2010 @ 9:48 am
Dooley Really is a Cunt of the Highest Order..
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/maurice-dooley-bishops-were-not-obliged-to-tell-gardai-of-abuse-2099999.html
March 16th, 2010 @ 9:51 am
The only Canon law i would recognise at this stage would be finding every Priest/Bishop/Bullshit Wizard who covered this up,putting them all in a Chuch and firing loads of Cannon’s at it..
March 16th, 2010 @ 10:04 am
Dooley is wallowing in self righteousness. He’s using the letter of the law to defend inaction of priests and bishops. We all know that investigations by the police have been stymied by the church in the past. A local Garda would always obey the local priest as they essentially were the real rule of law in the parish.
So even if a priest managed to report to the police, the police would then report back to his superior who in turn would tell them to drop the case.
We were ruled from the Vatican, plain and simple.
March 16th, 2010 @ 10:28 am
I hear a lot about the state being responsible for a large part of the attacks on kids in institutions and so on but I have to say i hear very little about the ‘veto’ the catholic church held over the state’s social policy between 1930 and 1990.
There seems to be some sort of conspiracy to accept that the state should have challenged the church more but that doesn’t explain what happened to people who genuinely tried.
The younger Gardai who filed paperwork quickly before it could be sidelined by senior Guards. Those people in the Dept of Education who tried to tell what was going on in the slave labour gulags of the Magdalene laundries etc;
These people were all ‘veto’d’ by catholics trying to do their church a favour and protect its reputation. Some had their careers finished.
Its about time (and no better time) for RTE, The Dept of Education, Justice and so on to get rid of these nutters out of the state’s systems.
Interfering with the legal process should lead to jail terms for civil servants.
March 16th, 2010 @ 10:55 am
What can we do? I’ve been struck off the baptismal register, but that’s a personal thing. What can I do on a societal level? You can throw the Crimen Solicitationis of 1962 in all the Catholic faces that you want, but they’ll still go to Mass.
“sure it was only a few bad apples, it’s not fair on poor Fr X, sure he’s a lovely parish priest”
I want to see them burn. I want to see the churches turned into town halls and museums. But mostly, I want to see them burn.
So, I is asking Twenty’s peeps, the most trustworthy people on the interwebz. What can I do to bring this thing down, without going to prison or becoming a martyr? I’d prefer to leave that bit to the folks who do it best.
March 16th, 2010 @ 11:06 am
Where were the parents in all this? Surely somewhere, sometime, a father managed to get his hands on a priest who molested his child? In spite of the bleating of Dooley and his ilk, I’m fairly sure diddling kids has ALWAYS been high on the list of societal no-nos. Oh, and absolutely ratzinger was up to his ASS in this- there’s no way he didn’t know what was going on back in his time in Germany.
March 16th, 2010 @ 1:11 pm
[...] day, the only organisation that believes it can operate outside the law of the state – as per Monsignor Maurice Dooley’s comment on the Pat Kenny show yesterday. And, ultimately, the catholic church is at the centre of this particular discussion. [...]
March 16th, 2010 @ 2:04 pm
Monsignor Dooley’s comments on the Pat Kenny show are nothing to what was said on “Talk Back” Radio Ulster this lunch time. Tuesday 16th March.
BBC iPlayer should be up tomorrow or later today.
March 16th, 2010 @ 2:05 pm
Give us a teaser
March 16th, 2010 @ 2:48 pm
Here you go Twenty!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rh48m/Talkback_16_03_2010/
March 17th, 2010 @ 3:10 am
What about the so-called ‘good’ priests though? Why won’t any of them speak out with clarity? You listen to them and it’s the same auld thing of trying to decipher what they’re really saying. Thus, Fr Blah saying that Brady should explain further (or whatever) can be taken to be brazen outspokenness and opposition. If there’s any good men in that there Church they’d do well to speak louder because the impression given is that they’re so cowed, so obedient that if a bishop asked them to overlook something heinous again today or tomorrow, they might well say ‘yes boss’
March 21st, 2010 @ 12:40 pm
Poor old Brady must have thought the public had bought his “Mr Nice” act, then the Doodlebug chimes in with his words of support. Brady must have thought “Oh f**k, where did they get this tosser from.” It’s incredible that only a couple of decades ago these nutters were ruling the roost.