From 2014 all workers over the age of 22 will have to pay 4% of their income into a pension scheme (if not already a member of a work related one). For every €4 paid in by employees, the state and the employer will contribute €2 each. And some other shit.
That’s enough for me. They can go fuck themselves. If I don’t want to pay into a pension scheme then that is entirely my business. It’s just more nanny state, stealth tax bollocks. I pay my taxes already, I’m not paying any new ones. Especially ones ‘cunningly’ disguised to seem like some kind of benefit to me when in fact it’s another way of scraping together the money we need because we’re bankrupt thanks to this Cock Piss Patridge of a government.
I’ll go fucking retire somewhere else, on my own terms. This country is fucking shit and it’s not getting better any time soon.
And weather is a load of cunt too.
I couldn’t have put it better myself. It’ll just be another wedge of cash that the next generation of FF’s will piss up against some developers wall.
Nothing will change as long we keep voting the gobshites in.
Revolution anyone?
There is no chance of revolution. I will leave this country before this comes into force.
Haven’t we been paying for our pensions through PRSI contributions??
They rape the pension fund and divvy out to the bankers, and this is how ‘we’ have to pay it back.
These FF Cunts make me puke and need to be taken out by either an election or a bullet, which ever comes first!
Maybe if we stopped propping up these bankers penion funds, the ordinary Joe might stand half a chance. This is highly unlikely with this bunch of morally bankrupt Cunts!
I’m sure I speak for anyone who emigrated from Ireland in the last 5 years when I say that I breath a huge sigh of relief everytime I hear another bullshit taxation policy or income levy imposed on the people of Ireland by that fucking Joke of a government. They were useless when I left and its quite plainly obvious that nothing has changes. For me tho I feel terrible that my family and close friends have to put up with this fucking crap on a daily basis. Something does need to change and I agree with Damien only I think a bullet is too good for these useless fucks
Where would you go ?
At the moment I’ve got as far as ‘somewhere else’. I’ll think more on it later.
Bollocks. Its the same shit all over again. If I hadn’t left i’d be leaving now.
”It’ll just be another wedge of cash that the next generation of FF’s will piss up against some developers wall.”
Couldn’t have said it better. Wait ’til you see, after this is passed another chunk of money will go into propping up Anglo Irish Bank.
”It’ll just be another wedge of cash that the next generation of FF’s will piss up against some developers wall.”
True.
But who is going to stop them, we can all say how big a load of bollocks it is but thats about a far as we’ll get.
I completely agree with ya Twenty. Uruguay is looking pretty at the moment, with a nice new airport near the capital…my partner and i want somewhere affordable, sunny and gay-friendly, so Montevideo seems appealing!
The “future pension plan” is all very well, but the problem will occur in relation to everyone inbetween this compulsory age and those who are now working/retiring soon… there is simply no money pensions and its a complete joke to ask peeps to save for a pension (many took out mortgages, bought shares, etc. as a way of saving for retirement, and those plans are in ruins!)
As soon as Aer Lingus starts flights to interesting retirement destinations we’ll be off!
That’s the spirit twenty!
I’m pretty sure that the chances of a person reaching a pensionable age in the first place is 4/7. I don’t like putting my cash into something that I’m nearly at less than 1/2 to get, even though I own it!
I wouldn’t worry too much. Fianna Fail governments always say they’re going to this – public sector reform 10 years ago which consisted of increasing wages through short term tax gains and that – ensure a functioning public
transport system – looking out my window towards the train-station in the a.m. and it looks like Calcutta. Yes, I said train…still no fucking DART.
Anyhow; this will be another Fianna Fail failure. Total bullshit which will ensure that the likes of Beverly Cooper-Flynn can go back to advise people on how to break the law.
Burn Fianna Fail voters alive
Eh, let’s see if I can remember… oh yeah:
“The value of pension funds may rise or fall” [especially when the funds invest in 'sure things' like bank shares].
Oh, and the share value of our banks is already propped up by the National Pension Reserve Fund, with more robbery to take place.
So, would I buy… sorry, gamble… ANY thing on this government’s recommendation? Eh, no. Would I invest a single cent in ANY scheme offered by ANY commercial financial service in Ireland? Eh, no.
Any legal obligation to do either of these things will be met with total, obstinate, and absolute refusal.
Start a new political party TM. I’m sure I could drum up a few votes for you, even from over here. As long as there’s lots of nationalisation and legalisation in your manifesto, you’ll be a shoe-in.
And I’m sure someone on the forum mentioned the weather before too. To paraphrase, it’s Muslim weather – sometimes sunni but mostly shiite.
My Eyes! My Eyes!
oh there they are.
If we all update our Facebook statuses to ‘Rebelling violently’, won’t that work?
Any legal obligation to do either of these things will be met with total, obstinate, and absolute refusal.
It’ll be taxed at source I bet.
the moment of zen from the daily show this evening. bob bechel has form for telling fox to go fuck themselves. i think that’s the buffoon that matt cooper brings on his show beside him, Cal Thomas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFjZaoes54
“It’ll be taxed at source I bet.”
Citizen worker can opt out, for two years at a time, according to Minister Hanafink.
That means you’re automatically put back IN the system unless you remember to opt out all over again… who thinks up this shit. And although it’s all but obligatory, there’s no guarantee that your money will be worth diddly squat due to ‘the prevailing economic climate’ are some similar hand-washing phrase.
You get my drift, just trying to get my breathing under control….
I hear ya, but surely some legal wag will find a way to challenge that then. If you can opt out for 2 years, then opt out again, and again, and again etc, surely you should be able to opt out forever.
it’s due to the ageing population and many other western countries are taking similar measures too.
however, having said that, i agree with you in that we shouldn’t have to pay it. People work for 40 (50?) years and then expect government hand outs? save some cash you lazy cunts. Fuck
Do you think Martin Cullen is on a trolley? Just wondering aloud to myself again. Rape and all that. What a prick.
“opt out forever”
Don’t we wish!
Hanafink was on the news earlier spinning that this was pretty much like a new SSIA!!!!
Well, McCreevy’s SSIA fun cost the exchequer €1.5BN, although not everyone was able to avail of them – which made it a tax on the poor and public services in order to further enrich the wealthy. That aside, we don’t have €1.5BN any more, unless it’s in the pension reserve… but we’re pilfering that to shore up the banks’ share value.
Off now to have a calming rest in another world.
State o’ chassis, Joxer.
Enjoy another world.
Itchy, I’m quite sure he isn’t. The prick.
http://skinflicks.blogspot.com/2010/03/id-emigrate-if-i-could.html
Can we burn pensioners in protest?
Check out Panama Twenty. You’ll be sorted.
Couldn’t get into that other world, my blood pressure’s too high.
it’s lovely in Belfast…we have two Nandos now too….
Nandos …..mmmmmmmmmmm
Still miss Ciros
I like the fighting words JC but nobody’s going to fight, are they?
Sent from my bed via my iPhone. Now I’ll never get anything done.
Without going into details that might put the Special Branch onto me, I am.
I encourage everyone else to do so too. But sadly you’re correct, Lorcan. The sheeple bleat but they still march into the slaughterhouse.
Is there an app* for burning fianna fail voters?
*If anybody ever says to me in conversation that “there’s an app for that” I’ll stand on their toe and choke them.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/60076,people,news,norman-tebbit-apologises-for-kicking-child-dressed-as-chinese-dragon
stolen from some shit on bbc
Not seen that site before Itchy – like this story though
New Apple app TigerText lets love rats cover tracks
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/60307,news-comment,technology,new-apple-app-tiger-text-helps-love-rats-cover-tracks-ashley-cole-tiger-woods
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/59974,people,news,sarah-palin-criticised-by-downs-syndrome-actress
That woman scares me – God help us all if she becomes President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxJoMIFDTSs
hong kong tv channel doing a news report on gordon brown bullying bullshit
Fair play JC. You’ve got the initials for it too.
Some light relief. More puns than you could shake a great big stick at. Bastards.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100303/video/vod-murder-most-fowl-as-fox-comes-a-crop-f1a0497.html
You are writing like some right wing arrogant prick, not in the least bit funny today Twenty.
So go fuck yourself and fuck off for all I care, you’d never make pension age anyway you ridiculous cunt.
Actually that’s good. pay your 4% then die, everyone’s a winner.
Says some cunt in France. Get fucked.
What the fuck is right wing about not wanting to be raped by these cunts?
Looks more like Lenin to me.
France eh ? Ban the cunt. Cheese eating etc etc
Gobshites
Sneaky fucks the French, can’t be trusted!
Ahh my cover is blown! After all the money you made on those books it’s redistribution of wealth. And sure aren’t we all Europeans now Twenty?
Furthermore xenophobia (even against the French and I’m not French) is right wing. Weren’t they good enough for us in 1798, now if only the cunts had turned up!
I never said you were French, just in France. Nothing xenophobic about that.
Cook Pass Babtridge
They did turn up in 1796 – Bantry Bay – but couldn’t get ashore – and 1798 – Castlebar races and all that.
Avoid Iceland – their Government sound even worse than ours (plural )
But M. le Voix, in France they proudly call it Chauvinism.
(Twenty, sorry if I’ve fed a monkey)
There’s really no point moving. Sure it’s the same everywhere you go, Twenty. The governments of Europe are a bunch of gobshites.
As for burning pensioners in protest, it’s not really their fault. They were ridden by the shower of cunts themselves.
It’s the same here in the north. I would rather be governed by FF than have to look at DUP cuntface robinson every time I turn on the TV.
Unfortunately there are no desert islands left as they are all owned by celebrities. There’s nowhere left to hide :-(
You can all have a go in my hideout in Wicklow.
1) can you cook HM ?
2) any wimmin ?
“EMPLOYERS last night warned they would be forced to cut workers’ pay to compensate for having to contribute to their pensions.”
http://tinyurl.com/yfqeb6k
Well when I came to the UK in the 80′s the place was full of teenagers in cheap suits called ‘Financial Advisors’ who were trained to do one thing; ask a potential client what percentage of their final salary they’d like to retire on and after that it was back-of-a-fag packet detailing how much you’d need to pay into one of their private schemes in order to achieve that (the value of your investment can go down as well as up).
The UK govt was encouraging this privatisation of pensions because of the difficulty of paying for current pensioners out of a dwindling national insurance pot.
Only problem is as Equitable Life and other savers could tell you is that large sums of money built up in private retirements schemes and then Gordon Brown struck- he windfall taxed the schemes, others collapsed leaving savers without a penny and there was fuckall bailout for the ordinary joe.
Thats what the FF cunts want next. They want large sums of cash building up in private schemes which they can then sell on like Derivatives to American financial chancers who will do their best to earn as much commission out of the pot as possible.
Going back to the teenagers in suits- when the shit hit the fan and the endowment schemes they were mis-selling to people fell apart with a plunge in the stockmarket thousands were left seriously out of pocket.
Some got some compensation- many didn’t. Its FF and their banker buddies setting up another pool of YOUR money to raid either via stealth tax or by commission to their financial services industry buddies.
I wonder if your favourite FF piggybank Anglo-Irish are in teh running for administration of the scheme?
Tell them to fuck off and save with a German or reputable English outfit like Prudential.
Basically – Capitalism stinks.
Wasn’t Voice of Treason previously a Belfast-based civil servant blogger who spent most of his time being incredibly sexist about women?
Could very easily be a different VOT.
Capitalism is the most natural of systems and closest to human nature and which like most things related to the human condition it is imperfect.
But with proper civilised safeguards (ie that it contributes to society rather than lubricates some suited ddickhead’s throat in the guise of champagne) its the least worst of systems we’ve come up with so far.
The thing I hate about capitalism is that it seems to appeal to the very worst in human nature.
And as for entrusting Irish politicians not to fuckup or steal from a large private pension pot-thats asking too much.
Aren’t they already raiding the pension fund of 28billion euro to help cover up the swindles at Anglo-Irish?
How long do ytou think it would take someone like Ahern or Haughey to start ‘accessing’ such funds or better still getting a quiet commission from some finance house for letting them ‘handle’ it?
The Irish Govt has given absolutely no reason to be believable or appropriate guardians of anyone’s money, anytime anywhere.
Troo nuff.
But the foul-mouthed writing style is eerily familiar.
Has our former NI civil service junketeer managed to secure himself a seat on the Strasbourg gravy train?
Careful now Twenty.Extra tax?Pay cut disguised as a pension contribution?Sound familiar?Surely you didn’t think that we weren’t gonna be next.Maybe we,they will be on the streets together yet..
Thinking about all this as a problem for Ireland is to miss the point. This is a global move to enslave workers.
(Sent from my iHide)
Keith died.
Funny that he didn’t see it coming.
Hopefully Dan Boyle will say “actually, I don’t like this” on Twitter, and that’ll be the end of it. They’re afraid of Twitter…
Genius. They release two killer policies at once knowing that it’ll split people. What’s worse – increasing retirement age to 68 or forcing us to get a pension (funds to keep the banks happy)? This is the final, final nail.
Im divided on this issue mainly because my brain is rotting and I can no longer comprehend anything thats going on anymore. Can this country get any more fucked up?
We need an earthquake.
or a montage
Bless you sniffle!
A poem for our times…
The ghost of a young lad named Nate
Wandered all round his own ghost estate
He said “I don’t think it’s funny
To waste so much money
It’s a shame that ghosts can’t emigrate.”
A car-accident victim who bled
On the Monaghan by-pass just said
Having had my crash here
With no hospital near
I’m a casualty twice over. And dead.
A young chemist in a job with Big Pharma
Got a 300% mortgage, no drama
But when the bankers got jittery
And her job went to shittery
She wished that she had her own NAMA.
A Dutch pirate who loved things for free
Said stealing trinkets is no good to me
A gas pipeline’s the way
And the culchies can pay
A word, please, in your Shell-like, TD.
In opposition but still making demands
Enda Kenny hopes the government disbands
He says,”this dead tiger they’re screwing
Well, of course, that needs doing,
But I’d be fisting the corpse with my hands.”
Suffer children to come unto me
Said the priest while he patted his knee
It’ll be thirty years
Before I shed crocodile tears
And then whitewash my sins in the See.
He who once went on cheap flights with mates
And returned here, he now emigrates.
But it’s no long-term solution
The country needs revolution
O’Leary, your hanger awaits!
This is genius, if dispiriting…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFkKLjhf1Ws&feature=player_embedded
Saw that yesterday, Scary.
that was deadly Fluther,sent it to a few chums,if you don’t mind
Kingdom is fucked
Here’s an idea. Most French overseas territories are open to EU citizens. And most of these places are in very exotic places the Indian Ocean and Caribbean. So just learn a bit of French and head off.
Carol Vorderman on Question Time. What a useless cunt
HM? You mean…Voila!
Mai oui
What the flying fuck? So, Twenty is (apparently) now 63 years old, and he’s whining about the pension stuff? Ok, I hate FF as much as any cunt with the slightest degree of a moral compass, but isn’t a 63 year old Twenty Major complaining about changes in the pension scheme just an example of the type of Mé Feinism/gombeenism that Twenty always rails against (which I agree with, by the way)?
63, heh
My political junkiness is so sick that I’m recording the Hearts & Minds Paisley Special now. With the volume on.
He’s older than me ?
But not wiser!
or quite as bitter
Cunt off Liverpool FC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8548707.stm
this war crime keeps going on
HM, which bit do you fancy? I think I’d opt for Réunion. I think the Dutch also have few interesting spots overseas.
this war crime keeps going on
Bush and BLiar in the dock – I’d die happy
How about Palm Springs??
And by the time I reach it the retirement age will be 68? With the state of the health service in this poxy country I’ll be lucky to get 70, I’m sure as fuck not retiring 2 years before that, especially since my last year will be spent dribbling on myself waiting for the state to give me some assistance – fuck off.
Ireland has been destroyed ever since they mentioned the pill on the Riordans and had lesbians on the Late Late.
Fella I heard about went to India lookin for work on the building sites. Wonder what sort of a pension scheme they have over there