Haiti fundraiser
Posted on | February 5, 2010 | 119 Comments
We had a fundraiser in Ron’s last night for that old earthquake thing.
“Hatin’ for Haiti’ was a resounding success. Each person had to get up and rant about something they disliked intensely. Jimmy’s prolonged tirade about the fat old one from Boyzone and how he could be directly linked to the financial and political crisis in this country was a thing of wonder.
Stinking Pete spoke about how much he detests public speaking, Splodge about people from Luxembourg and even old Charlie down the end of the bar had a go, explaining why people who put your change on the counter when you have your hand out for it ought to be exterminated in concentration camps.
In the end we raised a good old sum of money which Ron put in a pint glass behind the bar before doing his bit about how he hated fundraisers and as such was confiscating the money to help pay for the urinal Dave cracked when he passed out in the jacks last week.
Hey, needs must.
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February 5th, 2010 @ 10:32 am
Each person had to get up and rant about something they disliked intensely.
You were spoiled for Choice ?
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:34 am
Somewhat …
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:40 am
people who put your change on the counter when you have your hand out for it ought to be exterminated in concentration camps.
A bit harsh – if I was a barman there wouldn’t be many hands I’d want to touch, especially after a visit to the jacks…..
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:41 am
I’m with Charlie. You don’t have to touch their hands, just put the money in it
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:44 am
I agree that change on the counter thing is very rude. Best thing to do there is when they put your change on the counter, pick it up, ask for something else which you pretend you’ve forgotten. When the person holds their hand out for the cash just slap it down on the counter. That’s what I do to that rude fuck in my local shop across the road She’s very rude. No please or thank you, no nothing.
Shane McGowan, Glen Matlock, Mick Jones, Nick Cave and Chrissie Hynde have done a record for Haiti.
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:48 am
Hate grated cheese……I still have some teeth ffs
consider my contribution confiscated
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:48 am
That urinal won’t be stolen from another bar by itself!
February 5th, 2010 @ 10:51 am
“people who put your change on the counter when you have your hand out for it ought to be exterminated in concentration camps”….. or wrestled to the ground and made suck the coins until they are clean.
They don’t want to touch anyone’s hands yet they spend the day handling publicly circulated coins that have been anywhere and everywhere.
Stupid anal cunts. There, I said it.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:05 am
Haiti – It’s so IN right now.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:06 am
They don’t want to touch anyone’s hands yet they spend the day handling publicly circulated coins that have been anywhere and everywhere.
True indeed.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:27 am
What about shop keepers who hold their hand out, almost in your face as you get the money out of your wallet. That’s rude.
Also, taking the customer while you’re still packing your bag. VERY annoying. It’s plain rude. I always ask them to wait until I’m gone.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:28 am
Shane McGowan, Glen Matlock, Mick Jones, Nick Cave and Chrissie Hynde have done a record for Haiti.
Read My Lips.
No. Charity. Singles.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:49 am
Charity singles are ok jamesy. Once people only have to lend their time and voice for something that’s ok in my mind. It’s when they start asking for personal items to donate to charity. That’s where I draw the line. There’s 3 charity single for Haiti; a re-release with new added voices of “we are the world” – fuck that. A Simon Cowell release – Fuck that. A release by former frontman of Peter & The Testtube babies, a former member of The Clash, a former member of The Sex Pistols – that’s pretty cool.
Haiti is destoyed; it needs all the help it can get. I think the single is released in late Feb. Buy it; they need the cash. Plus it’s a cover of “I put a spell on you”. I’m a sucker for love songs.
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:51 am
Plus it’s a cover of “I put a spell on you”.
Did they call themselves Voodoo Ray too?
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:57 am
Hatin’ for Haiti, brilliant
I hate hating. Unless it’s standing in manure in flip-flops,it’s ok to hate that. Or rabid feminism. Or having a filling fall out within days so you have to have it done twice. Or air-kissing. Or …
Maybe I don’t hate hating
February 5th, 2010 @ 12:21 pm
“The fat old one from Boyzone”
That could be any of them……..
February 5th, 2010 @ 12:25 pm
P.C. Plod Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
“The fat old one from Boyzone”
That could be any of them……..
Except Stephen Gately. Unless of course the afterlife consists of many mcdonalds and abrakebabras.
February 5th, 2010 @ 12:32 pm
Shane McGowan, Glen Matlock, Mick Jones, Nick Cave and Chrissie Hynde have done a record for Haiti.
I’ll bet that’s fucking cheerful. Is there no end to the suffering of the Haiti people?
February 5th, 2010 @ 12:50 pm
Fascinating History.
Look at this Cunt !
” In an extraordinary statement during a broadcast on Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcast Network on Wednesday, the American televangelist claimed that the reason for Haiti’s misfortunes was that the nation “swore a pact to the devil” two centuries ago.”
http://tinyurl.com/yj5bwlg
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:00 pm
In fairness Maggot, he’s probably right. It’s easy to fuck up Voodoo if you don’t know what you’re doing.
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:08 pm
James Michener book ” Caribbean” is a good read.
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:08 pm
HM – He and Benny would make a great double act.
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:27 pm
Gerry Adams is “in future I’m looking forward to Peter Robinson treating nationalists with manners and respect , because over the last 2 years he has shown none of either.”
I never thought I’d say it but – bring back Paisley.
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:33 pm
Yay! It’s only a start though!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8499590.stm
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:37 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8499590.stm
Do you think John O’Donoghue has any reason to worry?
February 5th, 2010 @ 1:37 pm
maggot. We are borg!
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:10 pm
So is a number with Bono on the cards?
dave and pete on backing vocals…
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:11 pm
Borgh are left footers!
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:36 pm
See the old Devolution of Policing is sorted out in the quare place. Can anyone explain the parades thing to me. Trying to scupper all the gains of the past decade over really shit bands marching in really shit clothing on really shit streets for one poxy hour every year.
I mean, it’s not exactly the Rio Carnival?
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:37 pm
Now that policing in NI is sorted out, can we disband An Garda Siochana into regional police forces?
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:47 pm
Can anyone explain the parades thing to me.
Couple of books worth reading
Neil Jarman Material Conflicts
http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/parade/jarman.htm
R.D. Edwards The Faithful Tribe
http://www.ruthdudleyedwards.co.uk/nonfiction/tribe.html
February 5th, 2010 @ 2:50 pm
I’m saying nothing Crank & HM. If I do speak my mind on marching bands glorifying the past or all the bad apples in our shit police service who can’t solve any crime then I’ll have maggot and peadar beating me up
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
I’ll check those out maggot. But, you know, they might have saved themselves years of conflict and angst if they just made the parades a little more FUN?
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:09 pm
I love all the graffiti on the peace wall in Belfast. Things like “hey, can’t we all just like, get along man”.
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:17 pm
What they need is more of this:
And less of this:
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:19 pm
Well, that didn’t work.
HTML. It’s a bastard.
*sigh*
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:20 pm
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:21 pm
More transvestite dancing girls in feathers maybe?
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:31 pm
Exactly:
Rather than:
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:32 pm
I rest my case maggot.
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:51 pm
I loathe Orange scum.
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:54 pm
heh
February 5th, 2010 @ 3:55 pm
stop, the picture of your man will get maggot all excited
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:25 pm
http://www.tayto.com/shop/images/large/roast-chicken_lrg.jpg
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:26 pm
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:28 pm
Bring it.
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:47 pm
Thanks for those book recommendations, Maggot, I just love Ruth Dudley Edwards, can’t get enough of her.
Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.
February 5th, 2010 @ 5:24 pm
ruth dudley edwards must be related to mary ellen synon.
Hearts and Minds had a good report on the old orange guard last night about how people like Jim Allister with his continual antiquated reference to Sinn Fein/IRA shows them for what they are. They have no interest in the future because the future ain’t orange. The future is peaceful. Green, white and orange. And no reference to the mainland.
February 5th, 2010 @ 6:29 pm
antiquated reference to Sinn Fein/IRA
The IRA still exists and some SF Politicians still belong to the IRA – both are as criminal as the catholic Church was – e.g. SF Orchestrated Riots and other forms of cover up when Robert McCartney was murdered after a Republican March in 2005 .
All I’m going to say about the Orange Order is that the response to them reminds me of the Old Spinster who called the police because a Neighbour was naked in his garden flashing at her. Cops came, looked around , no sign anything. Ah , said the old woman, you have to climb onto the roof and use these binoculars.
Those in the South are every bit as Catholic as people in the North. If The OO are offensive monsters then ask yourselves why the People of Donegal don’t start rioting, bombing and murdering when every year the Brethren visit?
Hmmmmmm ?
Rossnowlagh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1430423.stm
February 5th, 2010 @ 6:40 pm
Huh
The IRA are called the IRA and Sinn Fein are called Sinn Fein. Yes; we know they are members of both. Why drone on and on and on abbout it. Nelson Mandella.
Fucking total bullshit.
I just get this far and I go gaga.
The 2005 reference just made me go
What’s catholic got to do with anything?
jesus fucking christ
I give up
February 5th, 2010 @ 6:47 pm
Why drone on and on and on abbout it.
Murderers in government. That is why. These cunts make FF look squeaky clean.
What’s catholic got to do with anything?
In a discussion of the OO that has to be the stupidest comment ever LOL
February 5th, 2010 @ 7:06 pm
As I stated; I got this far and I gave up
Those in the South are every bit as Catholic as people in the North.
I give up. Parade away.
Toodle pip!
February 5th, 2010 @ 7:11 pm
It’s quite logical – the OO opposes the Catholic Church ( You could have done with them in Govt in the ROI ) and it’s claimed that their parades are offensive to Catholics in the North and that they should stay in their own areas ….. So how come they are made so welcome by the People of Donegal every year ?
February 5th, 2010 @ 7:14 pm
Jim Devine MP on Channel 4 News
hahaha
He should get a good solicitor before saying anything else
February 5th, 2010 @ 7:30 pm
They are welcome in Donegal. That’s cool. If they’re not welcome that’s also cool.
February 5th, 2010 @ 8:05 pm
Light touch paper and retire … always works with Itchy and maggot…
*saunters down road with my tie gently blowing over my shoulder*
February 5th, 2010 @ 8:07 pm
So, Twenty – what *did* Splodge have to say about people from this tiny-arsed country? I’m curious!
(W’re not all rich greedy banker cunts and CSV-voting spas, by the way.)
February 5th, 2010 @ 11:59 pm
Splodge called them all cunts, thats just a guess
February 6th, 2010 @ 9:46 am
“Sir, if you are going to go any further, I must advice you that there are some people around that corner who may attack you”: PSNI policeman’s advice to me when I was leaving a Catholic area in Belfast last year as an Orange March was passing by. This is why these parades and the Orange Order are so dangerous and why Catholics are fed up with them and want to see changes.
February 6th, 2010 @ 11:23 am
again ironbed – if these people are so dangerous why are so enthusiastically welcomed in Donegal every year ?
February 6th, 2010 @ 12:40 pm
Why don’t you tell us why, maggot? Obviously, nobody has a clue.
Surely an organisation as obviously sectarian as the Orange Order has no future in NI? Is it not exactly that kind of vitriol and hatred you need to step back from? Why can’t you all just have a big hug?
February 6th, 2010 @ 12:51 pm
King Billy is patron of the DDD, which all Orange men are signed up to and have to practise faithfully without question.
King Billy was a faggot,(not a maggot) and he was leader of the Dutch Dung Dippers, or Shit Packers, as they’re known in Donegal.
February 6th, 2010 @ 12:58 pm
You are coming at it arse about face el cuno.
The OO stands for Civil and Religious Liberty. What is wrong with that ? It is a protestant organisation that seeks to defend our Civil and Religious liberties from the Tyranny of the catholic Church – especially in the Light of recent revelations about what the Catholic Church has done in Ireland what is wrong with that ?
The problem is not with the OO, the problem is with the sectarian hatred shown by the scumbags who attack them and of course that attracts the scumbags from the protestant community who are also looking for trouble.
There you have it – THAT is why the Rossnowlagh parade is peaceable and a spectacle enjoyed by the people of Donegal, Protestant and Catholic.
Scumbag shinners and Catholic bigots don’t attack them and as such the UDA and allied dirtbags stay away.
Attacking the Loyal Orders was a brilliant short term tactic by the terrorists – Phoney residents associations fronted by terrorists – But long term it has been disastrous and Adams and Co are trying to find a way to let go of the tiger’s tail.
February 6th, 2010 @ 12:59 pm
King Billy was a faggot
Classic UltraCatholic Homophobia.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:13 pm
Twenty, Splodge – please aswer my question NOW, or I’m going to make this video go viral. What video, you ask? Why, of course, the one that shows in graphic detail that the two of you are more than just friends, and like to exchange way more than just puns.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:25 pm
Ok, I’m not speaking as a Catholic here because as you know I am a devout atheist, but what tyranny? I mean Tyranny? It’s sectarian hatred dressed up as “defence of a tradition”. You can be as religious as you like, dress up in silly costumes and walk around your house all you want. Just keep it out of my face. Same goes for Catholics, keep your mumbo jumbo and superstitions out of my face and I won’t try to speak logic to you.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:34 pm
It’s got nothing to do with civil and religious liberty, it is purely political. It’s about keeping the taigs (unsure of spelling) in their place, and you know it.
see a family in Turkey recently buried their own 16 year old daughter alive for talking to a boy. She was found in a 2m deep hole with her hands tied behind her back and soil in her lungs. Religion? Keeping women in their place? The former used to achieve the latter? People are generally quite stupid and religion is an easy weapon to make them attack another sector of society.
All I’m saying is that you need to walk away from all that shite and grow the fuck up.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:37 pm
el cuno – please answer my questions
What is wrong with this ?
http://tinyurl.com/yjdo98v
what tyranny? I mean Tyranny?
FFS – look at what the Catholic Church has been upto in Ireland and the rest of the world during the 20th century.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:39 pm
It’s about keeping the taigs (unsure of spelling) in their place, and you know it.
The sectarianism and hatred is in your head , not mine le cuno.
February 6th, 2010 @ 1:57 pm
Maggot, the Orangemen in Donegal behave with respect for their Nationalist neighbours and are not policed by a sectarian police force. Simple.
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:01 pm
I honestly couldn’t give a shit.
I know it must be difficult when you come from a society as dysfunctional as NI, but surely a time must come when you have to just get on with it. At least Peter Robinson has the balls to face down the crazies, do the deal and get on with running the province.
I’m off to watch the rugby. See ya!
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:03 pm
not policed by a sectarian police force.
Meh! What percentage of the Gardai are Protestant?
Ha ha ha . Especially as we have legally sanctioned discrimination against protestants trying to join the PSNI.
the Orangemen in Donegal behave with respect for their Nationalist neighbours
So there is nothing inherently wrong with the Orange Order and It’s members. Thank you, my point entirely.
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:04 pm
I honestly couldn’t give a shit.
Then why go on about it ?
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:12 pm
See ya Maggot.
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:14 pm
I like Mrs Robinson,a pretty woman, a nice woman, a woman who knows what she wants and knows how to get it, a woman with high morals, a woman who stands up for what she believes in, a woman who risked a happy marriage and laid down a highly successful political career, to lead all those poor Orange Order souls who had strayed back into the old Protestant ways of Arse Banditry, and Faggot Fucking, all young Christian Northern Irish men should give thanks, and have a marching day in her honour!
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:42 pm
Twenty, Splodge – please aswer my question NOW, or I’m going to make this video go viral.
He said they have a peculiar odour which, although not what one would classify as ‘bad’, offended his nasal senses.
February 6th, 2010 @ 2:47 pm
Ironbed – how many protestant gardai are there ?
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
all marching/parades should be restricted to the 17th March and 12th of July – all others should be banned. Simple solution – Marchers should be allowed march wherever they like on those 2 days.
Maggot – There are protestant gardai, chinese gardai, gay gardai – all actively encouraged to join. Shame there’s no intellegent ones…..
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:06 pm
“He said they have a peculiar odour which, although not what one would classify as ‘bad’, offended his nasal senses.”
He’s a polite novice at the old ranting thing then, yeah?
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:08 pm
He has his own understated style, yes.
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:16 pm
There are protestant gardai
Dessie – But how many ? The figure I heard was 12. And how many in any sort of senior position ?
I ask because the PSNI is accused of being sectarian here because of nominal under representation of RCs , ditto the RUC. The main block to Catholics joining the Police here was social ostracism and murder from the nationalist community. Still happening here as with Peadar Heffron – http://tinyurl.com/yj6z52m
The representation of protestants in the Gardai is nowhere near on a par with their percentage of the population – and Protestant Gardai do not go in fear of their lives from Southern Protestants. So the Gardai are a sectarian police force ?
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:23 pm
all marching/parades should be restricted to the 17th March and 12th of July – all others should be banned. Simple solution – Marchers should be allowed march wherever they like on those 2 days.
certainly worth considering but a difficult choice for NIGRA.
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:24 pm
“He should strenuously oppose the fatal errors and doctrines of the Church of Rome, and scrupulously avoid countenancing (by his presence or otherwise) any act of ceremony of Popish worship”
That’s whats wrong – why not fatal errors of Islam, Buddhism, Judaism?
It is by an organisation, by its own definition, anti-Catholic. In the poisoned atmosphere of NI, that means it is by definition a sectarian organisation. Thank You and good night. Ireland up 23-8.
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:26 pm
On a positive note :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8501929.stm
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
why not fatal errors of Islam, Buddhism, Judaism?
Were they trying to destroy Protestantism when the OO was founded ? How are they in any way relevant ?
It is by an organisation, by its own definition, anti-Catholic.
Bollix. It is against the Catholic Church – which , considering what that Church has been upto – can only be a good thing.
As regards it’s attitude to Catholics
ever abstaining from all uncharitable words, actions or sentiments, towards his Roman Catholic brethren;
How in Christs name is that anti-Catholic ?
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:41 pm
Catholics are free to join then?
February 6th, 2010 @ 3:53 pm
PS Don’t take the Lord’s name in vain. The orange boys will be after you!
February 6th, 2010 @ 4:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5PoW7_kdA&feature=related
February 6th, 2010 @ 5:07 pm
an accurate portrayal of ni politics. btw liked the nevermind line the other day…
February 6th, 2010 @ 6:05 pm
great album, produced by the dude that is Steve Albini, though I do prefer In Utero.
Speaking of cool albums it looks like Mansfield F.C. have Radiohead “In Rainbows” fans on their board.
The match kicked off 1/2 hour late today. I’d say it was fucking hilarious down there today. They lost, a shock result.
http://www.mansfieldtown.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10325~1948012,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/8490345.stm
7,000 people at a non-league soccer match. It’d be very interesting to see the revenue figure from tickets sold today and apply the trends to Radiohead sales of their album. They sold 3 million of In Rainbows but they never released the revenue figures. This could then be applied to EMI – who Radiohead fell out with just as they were starting to record In Rainbows- who are fucked. Johnny Rotten has a boner; the internet is making it more difficult to make a buck these days.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/33e0bc9c-11cd-11df-b6e3-00144feab49a.html
As you might have guessed I have In Rainbows on today
February 6th, 2010 @ 6:10 pm
Is it just me, or is Iris Robinson actually a total fucking dog?
February 6th, 2010 @ 6:39 pm
DD Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Is it just me, or is Iris Robinson actually a total fucking dog?
I like dogs.
February 6th, 2010 @ 6:45 pm
Catholics are free to join then?
As free to join as Ian Paisley is free to be pope or as I am to join the AOH.
February 6th, 2010 @ 7:06 pm
*yawn*
February 6th, 2010 @ 7:16 pm
haiti will always be fucked up because they have the african mindset, find someone to fuck over like i was fucked over. they dont have the spirit of cooperation for no personal gain
dont know how the fuck they ever gained independence in the first place
February 6th, 2010 @ 7:23 pm
Is it just me, or is Iris Robinson actually a total fucking dog?
It’s you. I’ll bet you think Harney is hot.
Watched that horror Máire Pádraigín Bean Mhic Ghiolla Íosa at the Rugby this afternoon – she’s looking more and more like Maggie Thatcher.
February 6th, 2010 @ 7:34 pm
Maggot, given the small percentage of Protestants in the Republic, the numbers joining the Garda would be small anyway. I doubt it’s as low as 12 though. But the Garda was never a first choice of job for Protestants anyway as they tended to be urban middle class and went to third level and on into the professions. There is a saying about the Garda: Those who can, do. Those who can’t, join the Garda.
But the Garda is a very corrupt and narrow minded force. It needs to be disbanded and re-formed into regional police forces with one overall State police for investigating serious crime and specialist operations.
February 6th, 2010 @ 7:44 pm
Sorry HM – that is bullshit.
If the NI police force are to be crucified for having a membership that doesn’t represent the demographics as that ” proves they are sectarian” then exactly the same applies across the border. Especially as the Gardai don’t have the problem of Protestants trying to murder protestans who join up.
Here’s a fact – the Gardai and the Government refuse to give the numbers who are protestant – why ?
We saw institutionalised discrimination in respect of teaching jobs, medical jobs and the Mayo Library. The argument was that those not raised with Catholic social teachings would be inappropriate -and of course the same would apply to the police.
Sauce for the Goose – people your side of the border are quick to criticise things my side of the border – I’m just applying the same criteria.
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:14 pm
maggot. I don’t have time for ruc/collusion lessons and i hate all cops. and i don’t do religion.
do you to church every sunday?
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:14 pm
do you to do?
heh
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:18 pm
Have you time to explain why there are virtually no protestant gardai ?
Coward!
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:22 pm
I don’t know or care why? Maybe because protestants have a good work ethic?
Now. Enough about me. Let’s talk about you for a moment.
I was watching “A History of Christianity” recently . It’s about religion. You know, voodoo and shit. Anyhow. That went on about John Knox, yada, yada. Singing songs, all that. It just me thinking.
Do you go to church every sunday? And did you go as a kid every sunday? i.e. do you actually believe in all this religious cock?
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:26 pm
Ha ha ha – that’s it, run away
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:31 pm
I have no idea about Protestant numbers in the Garda. And no idea of whether or not they were systematically excluded. Growing up in Dublin, I was never aware of any animosity towards Protestants. I had Protestant neighbours (three families on my road). It wasn’t something which people thought about other than the odd benign whisper about the fact they were Protestant. They came to our funerals and weddings, we went to theirs.
The real discrimination in the south is against the poor. We find poverty shameful and embarrassing. The poor have been shoved into ghettos of flats complexes and left to rot. There was never any serious effort made to mix social classes so as to dilute social class division.
And most of the children abused by the Catholic Church were poor or orphaned because they had no voice. Also, you’ll rarely find a priest from a deprived background. Money was always key to becoming a priest.
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:39 pm
My neighbours were called Lionel and Daphne; my first 2 girlfriends were weird people with 2 left feet.
I’m running away to the pub. But with regard to the fact that there are very few protestants in our cop-shops, and I’ll take that as a fact maggot, I can’t tell you why. If you say it’s because of discrimination; I’ll also agree with you. I never knew anybody who wanted to be a cop.
Do you go to church every sunday? Did you as a kid?
February 6th, 2010 @ 8:42 pm
Hope you see where I’m coming from here though HM – people like Itchy who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
My paternal family came from Cork and Carlow – still relatives there and Dublin, none by any means wealthy.
Grates to have cunts like Itchy and other fellow travelers sniping when the gardai took very few casualties but because of Garda McCabe you have SF quarantined and your people will hardly vote for them – but despite the slaughter we are expected to have SF in Government – even in charge of our children’s education – regardless of the number of them they killed, maimed and orphaned.
February 6th, 2010 @ 9:02 pm
Hey maggot, I was reading that book you recommended – ‘The Endless Parade’ by Neil Jarman – and found this telling quote:
“Parades are expressions of culture, displays of faith and acts of domination; and they are intimately linked to the wider political domain. They work both as a part of an internal dynamic and to consolidate difference.”
None of the parties involved come out of the parades issue looking good. I don’t believe they’re helpful to a lasting peace but I think you are probably correct in your earlier quote:
Attacking the Loyal Orders was a brilliant short term tactic by the terrorists – Phoney residents associations fronted by terrorists – But long term it has been disastrous and Adams and Co are trying to find a way to let go of the tiger’s tail.
February 6th, 2010 @ 9:18 pm
Cheers Crank.
Another interesting point – Both sides were very active in this front until the 70s. There’s still a few AOH marches and the Republicans still march on Easter and on the anniversary of Internment – and demand the right to march where they are not wanted – but by and large as the nationalist community became involved in political activism marching diminished in importance.
However working class protestants were relatively disenfranchised . The Unionist Party was middle class and establishment – and I suspect the demise of the NILP and lack of any legal outlet for protestant working class political activism meant that the OO survived.
And of course once the OO was attacked community solidarity breathed new life into it – and sadly attracted a lot of scum as hangers on who were only there for the trouble – cunts like Johnny Adair
February 6th, 2010 @ 10:43 pm
On a lighter note :
dianainheaven
First JD Salinger now Johnny Dankworth – it’s turning into the fucking South Bank Show up here. I put a paper and comb in his starter pack.
February 7th, 2010 @ 12:54 pm
Maggot – somebody told me last night that the DUP were seeking some form of compensation for losses incuttred by some Prespeteryian pension fund and thats the reason for all the brinksmanship.
First i heard of this and the bloke telling me was drunk so i’m in doubt – is tere any truth to it?
February 7th, 2010 @ 1:43 pm
You still haven’t answered my question maggot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwlsd8RAoqI
February 7th, 2010 @ 1:58 pm
maggot Says:
February 6th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Hope you see where I’m coming from here though HM – people like Itchy who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
My paternal family came from Cork and Carlow – still relatives there and Dublin, none by any means wealthy.
Grates to have cunts like Itchy and other fellow travelers sniping when the gardai took very few casualties but because of Garda McCabe you have SF quarantined and your people will hardly vote for them – but despite the slaughter we are expected to have SF in Government – even in charge of our children’s education – regardless of the number of them they killed, maimed and orphaned.
Glass houses and stones – dunno what the fuck that’s about.
The wealth thing I don’t know what the fuck that has to with anything.
The gardai took few casulaties. Yes.
Grow up and move on. This is all history the days of some men are more equal than others are gone.
Everybody in power has to and had to compromise by having killers in power. Though I’d rather have Dennis Nielson as minister for education than caitriona ruane (I know of her from my tennis days, she ain’t a killer but she ain’t a minister for education)
maggot; you have to compromise; the days of some men are more equal than others are gone. And so has the slaughter
February 7th, 2010 @ 2:19 pm
Hang on.
You don’t fucking march maggot do you?
February 7th, 2010 @ 2:42 pm
So maggot ,where is your proof that there are only 12 protestants in the Gardai? And please, no generalities like the Irish Government won’t release statics or other abstracts.
February 7th, 2010 @ 3:08 pm
Woof woof
http://www.lesenfantsterribles.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/iris_robinson.jpg
February 7th, 2010 @ 3:08 pm
So maggot ,where is your proof that there are only 12 protestants in the Gardai?
Tsk, tsk – read what I wrote.
Dessie – But how many ? The figure I heard was 12. And how many in any sort of senior position ?
I mentioned a figure that I was told – I did noy claim there were only 12.
What I did claim as Fact :
Here’s a fact – the Gardai and the Government refuse to give the numbers who are protestant – why ?
But thank you for conceding that there is nothing inherently wrong with the OO, the problem is with the riff raff that cause trouble.
the days of some men are more equal than others are gone.
You think ? How does that equate with legally sanctioned discrimination against protestants then ? Hmmmm ?
And so has the slaughter
Try telling that to Constable Heffron. He’s lucky to be alive.
February 7th, 2010 @ 3:29 pm
maggot.
As a gesture of goodwill I’m going to change my name to sinnfein/ira. You gotta give and take and that’s my contribution.
Your reference to the present inequality and present death/maim rates compared to previous inequality and previous death/maim rates should convince you that the more inequality is weeded out i.e. power- SHARING the less death/maiming there is.
On another note; this is for twitters
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/df655bb0-f709-11de-9fb5-00144feab49a.html
February 8th, 2010 @ 11:16 am
dessiegee Says:
February 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Maggot – somebody told me last night that the DUP were seeking some form of compensation for losses incuttred by some Prespeteryian pension fund and thats the reason for all the brinksmanship.
First i heard of this and the bloke telling me was drunk so i’m in doubt – is tere any truth to it?
If true; that’s fucking funny.