Brian Coward
Posted on | November 29, 2009 | 36 Comments
As the faithful go to mass today – and I’m sure poor attendance will be because of the rain, nothing else – what leadership has the Taoiseach shown in the wake of the Dublin report?
People want to see criminals prosecuted, whether they’re priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, lay people, Gardai who failed to act or anybody else who was involved in this huge conspiracy against the people of Ireland.
Brian Cowen says “I believe that just as there must be no ambiguity about the fact that all institutions and individuals are answerable to the law of the land, whatever their status, it is for those institutions and their members to determine the appropriateness of any individual to hold ecclesiastical office”.
Coward. He is afraid to criticise the church. He is afraid to say that those who perpetrated crimes against young people, those who covered them up, those who enabled vicious paedophiles to rape their way from parish to parish, are not fit to hold office in a church.
If a Fine Gael TD was discovered to be a child rapist, you can be sure he would say it. If the head of the Boy Scouts of Ireland was a paedophile he would say it. Would he not openly question the suitability of members of the Teachers Union to hold office in their organisation if it were discovered that they had spent decades abusing children then covering it up? Of course he would.
Yet when this country needs leadership, when we desperately want somebody in power to speak out against an organisation that has been guilty of the most unconscionable crimes, Brian Coward won’t do it, because he is afraid. Afraid of the church, afraid of the backlash from disciples of the church, the brainwashed masses for whom this is an irrelevance because the church can do no wrong.
He is pathetic. A spineless yellow-belly who has no right to supposedly lead this country. He is saying that we have no authority over these men … and let us remember that is all they are. They may have a collar and parish but they are just men, subject to the same laws as any of us, and if we had been involved in the kind of crimes and cover-ups the church has been we would be prosecuted and jailed. They are not special, they have no higher place in society, they are just men, yet Coward allows them to maintain the falshehood that they live on some kind of pedestal.
He is allowing them to continue the kind of behaviour that has led to this appalling mess. He is condoning their behaviour. The Taoiseach. The leader of the country. He is a disgrace.
Ireland is broken and will stay broken as long as those in charge have no will to make things right. And those of you who go to church today and put money in the plate, you are complicit. Shame on you.
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November 29th, 2009 @ 12:39 pm
I don’t understand this hands off attitude he is fostering. Surely leaving it up to the church to decide is EXACTLY the reason we as a nation are dealing with this mess? Covering up a crime is a criminal act, the bishops who did so need to be brought to justice, not allowed cover up more criminal behaviour. Ridiculous man.
November 29th, 2009 @ 12:43 pm
Spot on, Twenty. He has managed to sink to a new low. Not only should they be dragged from office but should face the full rigors of the law. A pedophile is a pedophile and it doesn’t matter a damn if he has a mitre on his head or a strip of plastic around his neck.
November 29th, 2009 @ 12:48 pm
Yep, you’re both dead right.
November 29th, 2009 @ 12:49 pm
DO the people of Ireland have some kind of death wish,
Why do they put up with so much corruption why do they vote the same people in time and time again
I left Ireland 15 yrs ago when I was six
According to my mother the same fuckers or their sons are still running the place ,
and at the next election they’ll be voted in again .
Why do you keep doing it ,
In a few months this will be forgotten and on to the next scandal and then the next,
And nothing will change
Truly I despair for Ireland
November 29th, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
I don’t understand his reluctance to criticise, the only thing I can think of is he doesn’t want to upset the coins-in-the-plate dropping sheep whose votes he’s hoping for, which in itself is stupid because he is fucked anyway when it comes to election day.
He had a chance to go out with one redeeming mark against his name, and he didn’t take it. NO ONE in power has had the guts to leave the ‘carefully worded’ statements aside and call a spade a spade.
Spineless & sniveling in the Dail, Smug and condescending in the Parochial house.
These fuckers are dangerously close to getting away with all this, and that is what genuinely scares me the most.
The country is fucked.
November 29th, 2009 @ 1:44 pm
Throughout the comments on your last post people were calling for those responsible to be brought to justice, and for the church to be stripped of it’s assets and it’s influence in schools.
I wondered at the time who was going to instigate all of this, or if it was ever going to happen at all.
That fat, useless, bumbling cunt has answered my question. His inaction puts him on a par with those involved in all the cover-ups.
In the same way that the church was more concerned with maintaining it’s status he’s more concerned with maintaining his votes.
Utter, utter cunt.
November 29th, 2009 @ 1:45 pm
Mirian Lords header article about that vile cunt Bertie Ahearn yesterday could have been aboiut Cowen “He didn’t pick it up off the ground”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1128/1224259620781.html
It wasn’t off the ground Bertie got it
Bertie Ahern spent a lot of his formative years around All Hallows College in Drumcondra. His Da worked on the farm at the seminary and the Bert has fond memories of the time spent there.
He often says he got his love of the soil and his affinity with farming and country people from All Hallows. But maybe that’s not all that entered the sharp mind of the young Ahern.
In yesterday’s Irish Times, Patsy McGarry wrote about “the church concept” of ‘mental reservation’ as outlined in the Murphy report. This allowed churchmen to knowingly mislead people “without being guilty of lying”. He points us to Cardinal Desmond Connell’s explanation of the concept: “Well, the general teaching about mental reservation is that you are not permitted to tell a lie. On the other hand, you may be put in a position where you have to answer, and there may be circumstances in which you can use an ambiguous expression realising that the person who you are talking to will accept an untrue version of whatever it may be – permitting that to happen, not willing that it happened, that would be lying . . . So mental reservation is, in a sense, a way of answering without lying.” The report cites an example of “mental reservation” put forward the cardinal.
He said he didn’t lie to the media about whether diocesan funds had been used to compensate abuse victims. He said told journalists “that diocesan funds ARE [report’s emphasis] not used for such a purpose; that he had not said that diocesan funds WERE not used for such a purpose. By using the present tense he had not excluded the possibility that diocesan funds had been used for such purpose in the past.” Mental reservation.
It’s as good a way as any to describe Bertie’s evidence to the Mahon tribunal.
November 29th, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
Liz O’Donnell is the only one I can remember with any balls on this issue and boy did she get it in the neck.
http://www.alliancesupport.org/news/archives/001014.html
Because the Church has been allowed to brainwash the electorate it is not going to be easy for any politicians who would like to address the problem to achieve anything. Political suicide.
The only way I can see for progress is pressure outside parliament and a lot of it. Because the electorate who actually vote are dumb enough to believe in Moving statues and keep returning FF.
So it’s upto those who don’t usually vote to flex their muscles.
November 29th, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
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November 29th, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
Bravo.
November 29th, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
What’s happened to to you shower of bigoted bastards, none of you have blamed the English for any of the shit that’s going on in your suppressed shit hole of a country, what you need is someone like Oliver Cromwell or King Henry VIII, even the Black and Tans did less damage than the sons of them craw thumping Mothers, who went into Maynooth and similar places, to study the mystery and glory of the arsehole.
Your previous post was right on the nail, but as you and some of your commenters ask, will anything change, probably not.
November 29th, 2009 @ 2:27 pm
If he critisized the church he’d lose votes. He’s looking after himself at the cost of spitting in the face of everyone who expects him to have a backbone.
November 29th, 2009 @ 2:43 pm
Ireland needs a few TDs like Tam Dalyell of Belgrano fame .
November 29th, 2009 @ 3:10 pm
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1129/abuse.html
people who go to church accept this shit?
November 29th, 2009 @ 4:00 pm
So much for the sovereignty of the people that Dermot Ahern spoke of yesterday. We can’t have sovereignty when the Government, the banks, big business and the Catholic Church take it in turns to fuck the people up the arse – some metaphorically, some literally.
November 29th, 2009 @ 4:06 pm
The Government are just the top layer of Public Servants, out of touch with the real world and selfish, self serving gimps that tip their hat to their masters, and in this case we can see who the masters really are.
November 29th, 2009 @ 4:47 pm
I wonder what place Dermot Ahearn’s blasphemy law has in Ireland now?
Also, I would dearly like to konw the reasons for the DPP’s failure to pursue so many paedophile priests. Who’s pulling his chain?
November 29th, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
Crank Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I wonder what place Dermot Ahearn’s blasphemy law has in Ireland now?
Also, I would dearly like to konw the reasons for the DPP’s failure to pursue so many paedophile priests. Who’s pulling his chain?
It’s the boys in blue who send files to the DPP; so it’s the boys in blue pulling the chains.
this country is a corrupt shithole.
November 29th, 2009 @ 6:16 pm
Rwanda has joined the Commonwealth. Now there is a country that was REALLY screwed by the Church.
November 29th, 2009 @ 7:46 pm
I thought I posted this earlier this afternoon but tehn again
It makes you wonder are the people who take this fucking shit every sunday as thick as pigshit.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1129/abuse.html
November 29th, 2009 @ 7:58 pm
Fuck me Maggot, you have loved all of this.
Mother England would never have allowed this situation, eh wot, wot???
Kincora?
November 29th, 2009 @ 8:08 pm
Kincora, shameful, but Just about a one off.
Leave Mother England out of it. Nothing to do with them, this is about the malign power and influence on BOTH sides of the border of the RC Church. And The RCs my side should thank their lucky stars that those shits in the GPO had only limited success.
November 29th, 2009 @ 8:29 pm
Maggot, Did you forget about Lindsey Brown from Bangor Grammar School . . . . prolific kiddie fiddler ?
November 29th, 2009 @ 8:34 pm
To be fair this is an irish catholic priest thing. And irish cops. And irish politicians. and irish people. Mot an english or uk or mainland – (my aul fella fucking HATES that word) thing.
November 29th, 2009 @ 8:34 pm
Sigh, if true, Two then, hardly in the same league as what the Church got upto at places like Artane and at the School just outside Kircubbin. Let’s get real.
November 29th, 2009 @ 9:38 pm
Face it nationalist zealots, the Irish Republic is a failed state which sold out to the Catholic Church from the get go. The government and all state institutions have been subservient to bishops and priests and the childlike population have been spoon-fed garbage for so long they don’t have the ability for independent thought.
If anyone up north is feeling thankful that they’re not in the Republic, then fair play to them. Turns out Edward Carson and his lot were right when they signed the Ulster Covenant. Home Rule was Rome Rule.
And talking about “shits in the GPO”, isn’t Patrick Pearse known as a paedophile too.
A poem Pearse published in 1909 entitled “A Mhic Bhig na gCleas” (Little Lad of the Tricks), in which he describes the kisses of a little boy being sweeter than the kisses of women, fueled this speculation.
English translation…
LITTLE LAD OF THE TRICKS
by Padraig Pearse.
Little lad of the tricks,
Full well I know
That you have been in mischief:
Confess your fault truly.
I forgive you, child
Of the soft red mouth:
I will not condemn anyone
For a sin not understood.
Raise your comely head
Till I kiss your mouth:
If either of us is the better of that
I am the better of it.
There is a fragrance in your kiss
That I have not found yet
In the kisses of women
Or in the honey of their bodies.
Lad of the grey eyes,
That flush in thy cheek
Would be white with dread of me
Could you read my secrets.
He who has my secrets
Is not fit to touch you:
Is not that a pitiful thing,
Little lad of the tricks ?
November 29th, 2009 @ 9:49 pm
There was a lot of discussion about Pearse. Certainly the poem displays latent paedophilia IMO.
There was an opinion piece a few days ago in the IT about Northern Catholics
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1120/1224259176691.html
November 29th, 2009 @ 10:12 pm
Andrew Madden is reported as responding to Cowen in the IT
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1129/breaking15.htm
November 30th, 2009 @ 5:18 am
OH DEAR OH DEAR – NOW WE ARE GOING OT BE SIDETRACKED ABOUT PERFIDIOUS ALBION AND THE BOYOS OF 1916….
November 30th, 2009 @ 8:21 am
Don’t be sidetracked.
Having the “old enemy” has been one of their tricks down the years. The British, and by extension, “protestants” have been the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Irish Catholic Church.
If there’s some external force to blame for all our ills, then there won’t be any scrutiny on the domestic front.
Some unbelievable comments from Mass goers in Limerick about the bishop and whether he should resign or not. (He should be juist fired and jailed).
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1130/1224259709261.html
However, another parishioner, Pat Downs, described the bishop’s homily as “quite informative. I’m glad he made a statement here.” Asked if he thought Dr Murray should resign, he said “absolutely not”. His wife, Nuala Downs, said: “We’re not here to judge this life. God is here to judge us.”
….Another parishioner, John Cotte, said: “I don’t see any reason why he should resign. Some people wouldn’t stop until they got the pope himself to resign.” One elderly woman said: “I do pity the innocent priests or anyone who’s innocent.”
Another man said the bishops “are doing the best they can. I know that some priests obviously need to be punished but we’re behind the priests and bishops.”
I guess if you believe that a man can actually turn a bit of a wafer into the body of a dead guy, and then you eat it, well, you’ll just about swallow anything.
November 30th, 2009 @ 8:23 am
couldnt agree more. leaders should be elected in anyways
November 30th, 2009 @ 9:53 am
Larry’s right, it’s attitudes like the above that gave the Church so much power and power corrupts. It will take another generation or two to wash it out of the system.
Maybe then we can like in a Utopia such as that which exists north of the border, where religion doesn’t play any part in people’s lives!
November 30th, 2009 @ 11:14 am
Jaysus Lads, do you not realize that the all the TDS, Guards and Judges have been going into confessions since they were 1 month old and confessing their filthy secrets- the priests wrote it all down and have it all locked away in their safes. My old man always called the church the “biggest spy gang” in the world.
November 30th, 2009 @ 1:01 pm
They are worse than the Stasi – at least they got your neighbours to spy on you. The priests want you to rat on yourself, what a laugh!
November 30th, 2009 @ 2:54 pm
As for Biffo.Name one thing of any significance he ever did? A bozo who rose without trace when he inherited his fathers seat. A total bullock,all beef and bellow but no balls anywhere.
November 30th, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
Brain Cowan was the last trick of the evil Bertie. It was his last two fingers to this state. It was Bertie saying: You want shot of me? You want me to resign? OK. With the last bit of influence I have I’ll make Cowan king. I’ll put the thickest runt of the lot in charge because no one crosses Bertie.