Young Greens just like Old Greens
Posted on | November 17, 2009 | 57 Comments
Hands up here who would allow themselves be lectured to by a 22 year old student in NUI Galway about the state of chassis the country is in?
Not many hands. Yet you, you, have left a certain 22 year old with a deep sense of betrayal. Andrew Murphy, responding to a previous IT piece about emigration, says in today’s Irish Times:
My generation thought we had escaped this obligation, and for once would be handed down something perfect – a wealthy state with jobs and opportunity. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our “misfortune” is compounded by a sense of betrayal. Those who came before us had a chance to do something brilliant with the wealth but instead they blew it.
They meaning me and you and them over there and everyone but him and his generation, I take it. Can I assume the only reason the Irish Times published this is because it’s one of the most laughable, self-indulgent, witless pieces of writing that has ever been submitted to them? It’s the only thing that makes sense.
When I was growing up, I was often told about the 1980s. That decade became a byword for despair. Folks, we’ve all been watching and this isn’t the 1980s.
Folks? Fuck off, you patronising little cunt. And what the fuck do you know about the 80s apart from what you were told? He bleats on about how we educated ourselves and when we weren’t educating ourselves we were, and I quote, ‘J1-ing and inter-railing across the world’, as if both things were interchangeable. You either educated or you travelled, apparently. That was the 80s right? Because Andrew says so. He was told often, you know.
There are, I’m sure, many people in this country, myself included, who are anxiously awaiting the budget in December before making decisions about their future. It may well be that Minister Lenihan might make their minds up for them. Things might be better elsewhere. And then think about the 800 unemployed solicitors (as reported in today’s paper), the architects, surveyors, construction workers and those involved in associated industries who have two choices – do something different or go somewhere else to do what they do. And that’s not to mention those working in unrelated areas who struggle to find work in their chosen professions or the thousands of people who are fighting every day to keep their heads and businesses above water. A decision to leave Ireland won’t come lightly to any of them, yet this 22 law student in NUI Galways says:
Those who want to give up and emigrate have bought into the lie that this country cannot change, when in reality the only certainty is that it will change. We may be children of the 1980s but we are not prisoners of the 1980s. We have the ability to lead and change this country, if only we can stay around long enough to do so.
Give up? What a sanctimonious little shit he is. I wonder if he can explain to people how they can stay around long enough to change things when they can’t afford to pay their bills, pay their mortgages, support their families and the rest. They should stay and ignore opportunity elsewhere because of some sense of nationalism, is that it? As if leaving is treason? A bit of hardship now is worth it for the greater good, you see. The situation we find ourselves is not simply caused by the few, because:
… you all took the tax cuts, you all demanded more tax cuts, you never asked the questions you should have and you left us in an economic hole.
Oh, and here was I thinking that it was the government’s fault, and their powerful friends who got rich beyond their wildest dreams suckling from the cash-laden teat of the property bubble that the government manufactured and sustained despite warnings it couldn’t last. Instead, the people should have said ‘No! We want to pay more tax! Please don’t lower rates, Mr Minister for Finance, sir. We can see the bigger picture here’. The ones whose taxes funded the lifestyles of the few so the government could give tax break after tax break to property developers. The people who worked as hard as they could to buy a house, a home for their family, and paid mad prices because this boom wasn’t temporary, it was permanent. Yes,many took advantage but we, the majority, are not responsible for the mess we’re in now.
Government have used phrases such as ‘we’re all in this together’, ‘national responsibility’, but I can tell you this, I don’t feel the slightest bit of responsibility to ‘Ireland’. I won’t be told that to emigrate is to ‘give up’, especially from a student who has yet to experience the real world. Andrew Murphy can start lecturing people when he’s got responsibilities of his own, when he’s got a family, bills, a mortgage. And we’ll see how principled he is if he finds himself right in the shit like so many Irish people today.
You won’t be surprised to learn that young Mr Murphy is a member of the Young Greens. Such trite ideology runs from top to bottom in that party. A bunch of fourth rate politicians who were suckered in by a government who would have done anything to stay in power at the last election. They knew they could grease up Gormley and ride him when they wanted, and so it has panned out. Thanks to the Greens we’ve got NAMA, their senators and TDs bleating on the radio and on the web and Twitter about their role in bankrupting the nation. Well done to you, we won’t forget.
But Murphy gets one thing right. He says:
Instead of rewarding governments for doing what is popular, we have to accept that as an electorate we must punish them for taking the easy option.
I cannot argue with that. And let’s remember that when push came to shove the Greens took the easy option. They could have showed some kind of moral fortitude and brought down this shambles of an administration. Instead they chose to back the very people who have brought this country to its knees. So when the time comes to dish out the punishment, I hope the Greens and Fianna Fail get what’s coming to them. I hope there is no Green Party left for Andrew Murphy to be part of – or if there is it’s some kind of breakaway group that has some sense of what is right and what is wrong, and not a shower of halfwits blinded by self-importance and power.
And if the Irish Times might please consider their readership before publishing this kind of sub-ragmag shite in the future I’d be most grateful.
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November 17th, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
Ah, the 80′s. I was there and things were shite, but no one had this sense of entitlement and expectation that young Mr Murphy seems to have in spades.
His rant reminds me of a placard in a window of Trinity Hall last year protesting the return of fees; “We are the future, Look after us”. No, you’re the fkn present. Look after yourselves! And what are the chances mammy and daddy would be paying Junior’s fees anyway? Mammy and daddy who probably paid their own fees when they were in college instead of bitching in the Times. Grr, students!
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:42 pm
Haha…teat.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:42 pm
“We are the future, Look after us”. No, you’re the fkn present. Look after yourselves!
Was that placard real?
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:44 pm
Eh Glenda, that was the point of the article. People need to get a grip and realise we’re not slipping into the sea. However shite things get, it’s nothing compared to then.
And twenty – I cannot wait for you to finally save the country and run for office. You can no longer deny the country your wisdom, your wealth of constructive advice and expertise. Please, save us all.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:45 pm
The youth of the today.
(first time I wrote that and I mean it)
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
is this him?
[IMG]http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/buckfast06/8221_135726101591_622891591_2644505.jpg[/IMG]
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
shit, how can i post pictures?
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
anyway, his facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/drewtmurphy?ref=search&sid=699861780.259462811..1
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:48 pm
He’s a 22 year old law student. Trying out politics. The only reason so many law students have one eye on politics is because its the gravy train option.
I notice he didn’t use his sudden platform to call for a change in governance. Obviously done more than one year of law then.
And any little cunt who tries to adress people as ‘folks’ is either a closet US republican or a patronising little cunt who needs to be drowned in a bag.
The last time I saw a population described correctly as ‘folk’ it was in Lord of the Rings and the writer was referring to Hobbits.
Any politico who uses the term ‘folk’ or ‘folks’ is drawing a clear line between themselves and the ‘little people’.
Shoot the fucker.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:53 pm
However shite things get, it’s nothing compared to then.
450,000 unemployed, country bankrupt, we haven’t even reached the bottom yet, what’s so different?
And twenty – I cannot wait for you to finally save the country and run for office. You can no longer deny the country your wisdom, your wealth of constructive advice and expertise. Please, save us all.
No chance. I wouldn’t save everyone even if I could.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:53 pm
A sense of entitlement seems to be a common theme among under 25s. You cant blame him for being a bit idealistic, he is only 22. He thinks he knows it all, and its all ahead of him.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
Fatwa on Greens. Unemployment solved. Special detention centres, make them work for their keep at special detention centres in remote parts of Ireland etc.
November 17th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
He’s an Irish Blair.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:00 pm
Just the idea of some jumped up student who thinks he’s got something to say trying to tell people how to live … the fucking arrogance of it.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:01 pm
Lionel fucking Blair
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:05 pm
Been scuttling around the intergrinder and he’s a trainee politico alright. Degree in sociology and now studying law. Student politics etc.
He seems to think that people ‘give up’ on Ireland and emigrate.
Its old horseshit of those who stay at home somehow finding a way to blame those who left for the intervening shit of 20 years. I suppose its a backhanded way of acknowledging that the best have left.
And will continue to do so.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm
Look at his FB photo. Says it all. Regular Hunt Ball attendee I’d say.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
“And twenty – I cannot wait for you to finally save the country and run for office. You can no longer deny the country your wisdom, your wealth of constructive advice and expertise. Please, save us all.”
who is it he reminds me of, these stirring rants he goes on, i come in here feeling nothing for someone and leave wishing nothing but harm to them and theirs, there’s someone who was good at getting a buzz going that i cant just put my finger on.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:37 pm
I read that on the the times website earlier, lordy I laughed. He’s twenty fukkin two for chrissakes- what the fuck do you know at twenty two? In a life it’s the peak of bright shiny unformed (and uninformed) naivety. The green party will in all likelihood cease to exist after the next electon.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
sub-ragmag shite
Bang on Twenty. As ever.
The youth of today indeed. Still, we (meaning not me, of course) have made a bollix of things. I remember the 80s. It wasn’t pretty.
November 17th, 2009 @ 5:50 pm
And if the Irish Times might please consider their readership before publishing this kind of sub-ragmag shite in the future I’d be most grateful.
I suspect they are talking the piss, as with the slide show on the Knock apparition.
http://www.irishtimes.com/indepth/slideshows/knock-apparition-virgin-mary/
November 17th, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
did anybody read yer man newton the piss taker in the times today? There were some outraged firemen talking to joe today about it. didnt get a chance to look it up.
November 17th, 2009 @ 8:01 pm
http://tinyurl.com/y9htv7e
Newton Emerson of Portadown News fame.
November 17th, 2009 @ 8:40 pm
I fucked off one year and one month ago.Took the family and the dog. Best thing I ever did.I’m 43. Looking back, what do I miss? – nothing actually. Nothing at all. What a shitty little creation we have become —–a years plus perspective puts it all into place.A betrayed place, a betrayed people.
November 17th, 2009 @ 9:08 pm
Would have room there for another four and half million Pat?
November 17th, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
At least nowadays we have online porn. This recession is a fucking cakewalk compared to the 80s.
November 17th, 2009 @ 10:56 pm
Yeah, as long as you can afford to pay for internet. Although I suspect some people would go to the Phoenix Park and eat the grass if asked to choose between the internet and food.
November 17th, 2009 @ 11:05 pm
He voted Green; a large part of his “misfortune” – his “” – is brought on by the greens propping up FF.
Another fucking lawyer. Cowen, Our Minister for Finance Dumbo and now this green amadán.
November 17th, 2009 @ 11:58 pm
‘We have the ability to lead and change this country, if only we can stay around long enough to do so.”
Right so. It’s all yours. See ya in 20 more years.
November 18th, 2009 @ 12:10 am
“He bleats on about how we educated ourselves and when we weren’t educating ourselves we were, and I quote, ‘J1-ing and inter-railing across the world’, as if both things were interchangeable. You either educated or you travelled, apparently. That was the 80s right?”
I hate to say this, but you’ve got that bit wrong. It’s even worse than you think.
He is not talking about the ’80s. He is actually talking about the current generation and making the point that this generation is better educated and travelled than the last, therefore more qualified to run the country.
The arrogant little cunt.
November 18th, 2009 @ 1:19 am
Because you need life experience to run the country, Butch? Sure haven’t the current lot got plenty of life experience and have drove this place into the ground.
I’m not saying he’s right because he’s definitely an arrogant cunt, but don’t discount the younger generation because they’re young.
You can go ahead and abort him now, nobody will mind – he’s pissed off Twenty
November 18th, 2009 @ 5:33 am
WELL WELL WELL TWENTY – YOU ARE NOW MERELY REPEATING WHAT I WAS SAYING OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO.
FUNNY THING IS – UP TO NOW YOU SAID I WAS FULL OF SH-T!
NOW YOU WILL HAVE TO EAT THOSE WORDS!!!
November 18th, 2009 @ 8:05 am
Jesus, Gluey. You’re not that shouty man on the Kenny show, are ye? You write just like he speaks.
Sam, the vast majority of students are indeed annoyingly pompous arseholes. It’s just that most of them have the good sense not to advertise it.
Maggot: After the next election, I reckon we could use the Green Party to make some great compost.
November 18th, 2009 @ 9:11 am
We’re all DOOMED. DOOMED! I’d say our young student’s judgement isn’t that good if he’s a Green (about to get obliterated in the next election).
His judgement isn’t that good.
November 18th, 2009 @ 9:15 am
Well done on the rant, I read the article and just felt numb with disgust.
November 18th, 2009 @ 9:18 am
I don’t know what’s worse – the sense of entitlement and arrogance this little man has to think he can talk like that or the Irish Times for publishing his shit in the first place.
November 18th, 2009 @ 9:25 am
in fairness, the times was probably aiming for some of its famous ‘balance’, theve been publishing a lot of stuff from young ‘uns recently about how the country’s fucked and how emigration is the way to go.
they got called a pack of whingers/quiters by another contributer, who was living in dubai ironically enough.
November 18th, 2009 @ 9:47 am
It’s posts like this that urges me to counter balance this fuckers attempts to get into the political sphere by getting into politics myself :) F the Economy, the environment etc – My sole agenda would be to make is life a living hell..
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:12 am
This guy has obviously lived in a student bubble, which has been most likely paid for or subsidised by the people who he’s patronising with his babble.
He’s young, dumb and has no life experience worthy of sharing with people who’ve built the country to be then let down by a bunch of lawyers, who’s only talent is their ability to exploit family connections.
This Cunt (sorry I don’t mean to demean the word, as a Cunt can be useful at times) will most likely get the high fives from Fiachra, Sorcha and Cabaiste at the next student night out, the majority of who will most likely stay in Ireland because Daddy knows someone who can fix them up with a job.
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:16 am
“Just the idea of some jumped up student who thinks he’s got something to say trying to tell people how to live … the fucking arrogance of it.” — Twenty Major.
The irony of this statement coming for the most arrogant and puerile blogger in Ireland. Go back to making fart jokes and calling people wankers, Twenty.
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:18 am
Benign Dictatorship. It’s the only way forward. We need someone to call all the shots and intern all the current government for hard labour. He’d also have to make up rules like no U2 to be played ever and Eastern European women must date at least one Irish man every week.
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:43 am
Arrogant and peurile? What an odd combination.
Here’s the thing, Eoin, if you don’t like it, don’t read it.
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:48 am
Do you call people “wankers?”
I though it was “cunts”..my mistake..
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:50 am
Yes, and I do fart jokes too. Such as … erm … and … uhm … you know, but Eoin said so.
November 18th, 2009 @ 10:52 am
heh..FART!
November 18th, 2009 @ 11:22 am
I once farted so much in church, I was left to sit in my own pew.
November 18th, 2009 @ 11:30 am
“The irony of this statement coming for the most arrogant and puerile blogger in Ireland. Go back to making fart jokes and calling people wankers, Twenty.”
You obviously haven’t read this blog enough to make a comment like that.
November 18th, 2009 @ 11:35 am
I got an invite for an opening once,i arrived to the gallery where people were drinking the free wine and talking shit..but they were all holding their noses.i realised why when i walked further into the room,the smell was unbearable.
Thats the last time i’ll be going to a Fart exhibition..
November 18th, 2009 @ 11:39 am
“Eoin” must be a mate of his. Or his Ma rushing to his defence.
November 18th, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Anyone elected to office should be forced to play Sim City for a month before they are allowed make decisions. This would teach them valuable skills of resource management.
Students shouldn’t be allowed talk to anyone not in university until they’ve graduated and been working for at least 6 months. This would teach them valuable skills in keeping the fuck out of my face.
November 18th, 2009 @ 12:13 pm
When the Green Party ceases to exist i.e. after the next general election, it will have at least 2 permanent monuments in its memory: the M3 motorway and a large incinerator facility at Ringsend.
Excellent work, you environmental warriors (and lying cunts).
November 18th, 2009 @ 12:29 pm
And more expensive lightbulbs. Let’s not forget that.
True though, what a legacy to the environment they’ll have left.
November 18th, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
Bravo!
I’m sure I’ve been there; young, naïve and morally idealistic. And before I had the slightest clue what it was like to pay a mortgage and feed some mouths. Think I might have known better to spout my shite in a paper though.
He should be forced to argue nonsense on the interweb for a few years. Might learn a thing or two. I did.
November 18th, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
In fairness Twenty, I do a remember a blogpost of yours about letting out a wet spluttery fart and how it wasn’t the done thing when sitting at a table with a load of people from Japan and South Korea….”if only someone had told me that BEFORE” being the punchline.
The student still needs a slap though, cheeky little bollix
November 18th, 2009 @ 8:43 pm
Students shouldn’t be allowed talk to anyone not in university until they’ve graduated and been working for at least 6 months. This would teach them valuable skills in keeping the fuck out of my face.
Agree totally.. longer than 6 months.
Eoin is a cheeky little bollix too.. no doubt he’s one of your mans mates..
November 19th, 2009 @ 1:53 am
Give up? Me give up. I left Ireland in the 80′s with a wife and three young children and came to Australia to a land where I had no friends or family to help me along. Lot’s of people told me it took alot of courage to do what I did. If that snivelling, whinging little fucking drop kick poxy loser had half the guts it takes to help himself instead of pointing the finger he might make it, but I hope not.
November 19th, 2009 @ 5:34 am
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON TOMMYFARRELL!!!