Joe Coleman – the fraud
For the last couple of weeks Fatmammycat has been bemoaning the fact that Joe Coleman, the spoofing cunt who claims to be able to see the Virgin Mary, has been given free reign to spout his bollocks in the Irish media without anybody challenging him.
Nobody has just said ‘Look you, you’re a fucking liar and the claims you make are so obviously false. You’re using this to drum up business for your healing clinic. Fuck off’.
I realise they can’t quite use that language, but still. It’s maddening that such superstitious mumbo-jumbo has been given so much coverage without anyone disputing it.
What’s to stop anyone claiming to be able to predict the appearance of a made up deity? I could predict that I will see a vision of Zebedee in the snug in Ned’s of Townsend Street and I’m assuming I will get the same column inches and radio interviews as Joe Coleman. I’m sure when a bunch of knackers turn up and claim to see a miracle when the sun comes out from behind the clouds I can hand out business cards to ‘Twenty’s Instant Healing Clinic’ where I can cure anyone of anything they’d like once the small matter of my consultancy fee is paid. I can probably make contact with your dead dog too, if you’d like.
But Fatmammycat is right. The fact that the Irish media has given so much time to an obvious fraud is nothing short of appalling. It’s moving statues again. And we all know there’s no such thing as moving statues. We can look back on the craze, as it was, and laugh. So why didn’t we just laugh at this? Why didn’t we point the finger straight away and denounce him? Of course people can believe what they want to believe but that doesn’t mean we should just accept it or that we should provide a platform for frauds like Joe Coleman to cheat people out of their money.
Anyway, step forward Miriam Lord, whose Dail reports are always fantastic to read. In today’s Irish Times she reports from Knock where the ‘Blessed Virgin’ was due to make an appearance at 3pm on Saturday. Funnily enough she didn’t show up – apart from a secret flash of her holy knickers to Coleman.
It’s not as funny as Lord’s report though, which is bang on the money.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
“A minute ago it was beaming, changing from Our Lady to Our Lord,” insisted Jason. And if you looked hard enough, you could indeed discern a face in the play of light and shadows. When I squinted a certain way, I thought I could make out Bruce Forsyth.
haha
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 am
I think that it is too be expected that when things get shit in the really’s,that people will cling onto the whole miracle thing. Even resorting to listening to the rantings of a Paranoid Schizophrenic who has patently stopped taking his medication and should be getting looked after by doctors…
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Tom Dunne referred to this very article this morning and read from it. I hope he doesnt read this Blog, he’s a nice man and wouldnt be able for all the potty talk!
This Joe knacker from Ballyer should be ignored like a bold child…
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Sorry, I didn’t mean to paste all that. Just the Bruce Forsythe bit. You can delete if you like.
Re your point about challenging this shite. Is there really any point?
Everyone knows it’s a load of balls except those who don’t want to know. Just adds fuel.
Best bet with these fruitbats is probably to ignore them.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
Edited, Grover. Cheers. Funny line that.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 am
Best bet with these fruitbats is probably to ignore them.
I agree with that entirely. My point is that you shouldn’t invite someone like him on your radio show, for example, and allow to spout such bollocks without giving him a hard time about it.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
hocus pocus
voodoo
angels
I heard that fucker on RTE Radio last week; he’s got a kind of threatening attitude when you question his motives.
you’d be surprised at how many people believe in the shit. I was going to state you’d be surprised at how many rational people believe in it but I’d be wrong there. I know a person in a position of authority who believes in fucking angels.
and then I read this and it put me in a shit mood;
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/850fcce4-b9e3-11de-a747-00144feab49a.html
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
“It’s a disc. Yes. A disc. It’s like . . . it’s like the Host.”
Hahaha. Tools.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Id love to know who the PR person is that drove the 2 Cob artists to knock..
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
con artists obviously..
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
TOP-TIP for Tom Dunne -
If you are going to Discuss and read out Top Tips from viz, you might consider getting someone who has basic reading skills…
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
I sent one in..I hope he reads it out..sad i know but it is relevant to this topic..
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 am
Haha..he read it out first!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 am
I SEE IRISH PEOPLE…..
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
So, tell us what he read out Fill3rup…
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1102/1224257901009.html?via=mr
I TOLD YOU SO!
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am
knackers *rolls eyes*
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
@Gluey – you told us there was a recession in Ireland & people were emigrating? You’re quite the soothsayer. Fair play.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
Relegious Visionaries:Avoid having your big moment ruined due to non-appearance of the Virgin Mary,by spking the Holy Water with acid in advance and not just takin it all yourself..
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
Have you seen the state of the “secondary visionary” Keith Henderson ? Scary!
http://ballyhaunis.blogs.ie/2009/11/02/crazy-goings-on-in-knock/
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 am
But for fuck’s sake, Coleman is only doing what is repeated in churches across the land every single Sunday, ‘where the tolling of the iron bell calls the faithful to their knees to hear the softly spoken magic spells’. Coleman’s problem is he doesn’t have an official licence from God Botherers Inc (or any of its official subsidiaries). Folks are so credulous that his hocus pocus is barely one step up from the parish priest’s homily, and that’s sucked up by the faithful Sunday in and Sunday out. As for Zebedee, I’ll have you know he was in the Speakeasy in Killarney last week and he’s so fucked he’ll be sleeping off for a week. Don’t expect him in Ned’s anytime soon – unless, like the true deity he is, he is omnipresent?
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Have you seen the state of the “secondary visionary” Keith Henderson ? Scary!
http://ballyhaunis.blogs.ie/2009/11/02/crazy-goings-on-in-knock/
haha, is that really him?
chuntzu – you lie! Zebedee will appear in Ned’s at 2pm this afternoon. He’ll have a pint of Smithwicks with a Guinness head, a cheese toastie from a plastic wrapper and 2 Johnny Blue.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
“It’s a disc. Yes. A disc. It’s like . . . it’s like the Host.”
And here is your host – Bruec Forsyth! Good on ya, Miriam!
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
“Nice to Deify you,To Deify you..NICE!”
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I love the way the Catholic Church are trying to denounce it. They’re not into direct lines to God. It undermines their control.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
There like the record labels going out of business as the consumer starts getting music directly from the artist..
Joe Coleman is like The Pirate Bay of Worship,you can just download the bullshit direct without throwing some coins in a basket…
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
That Miriam Lord article is funny alright. It gave her a carte blanche to have a go at Travelers. She might regret that when she sees a Hiace with five people in the front trailing her.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Joe Duffy’s little pecker goes hard for this kind of shite. His show is lapping it up now, all the half wits are calling in with their “me meself personally and don’t get me wrong”
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
There like the record labels going out of business as the consumer starts getting music directly from the artist..
Joe Coleman is like The Pirate Bay of Worship,you can just download the bullshit direct without throwing some coins in a basket…
haha, good one
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Cannot bear to listen to Joe Duffy. Simpering cunt
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
joe on with joe now, there might be something in this…
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
The only ecclesiastical good that can come from stunts like is that it puts forth a very convincing argument for creationism.
Because listening to the description of the ‘congregation’ that were in Knock on Saturday and looking at that photo of Keith Henderson, I can honestly say that my faith in human evolution has been sorely shaken.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
He is a bit kiddy-fiddling mutant looking, isn’t he?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Would you trust that man with your faith?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Listening to Joe Coleman on Joe Duffy now. What a prick he is
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
He used to be a psychic,interesting..
Plus that one that was giving out to him a bout charging for teach spiritual guiding classes..What a cunt,if you were stupid enough to hand money over to another cunt teaching bollox then ringing in to a national station to point out what a dim gullible prick you are is probably not a good idea…
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
More about the amazing Joe Coleman here…
http://www.kerrytown-apparitions.com/
“In order to develop his “gift” he studied spiritual healing, clairvoyance and animal communications…”
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Was listening to it as well – is it just me or does he not seem to be brimming over with peace and love. If I was a channel for God’s love, I would be delighted with myself. Maybe a bit freaked out as well, but I definitely wouldn’t be as defensive and aggressive as that fucker.
can you be aggressive and defensive at the same time?
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
If I was a channel for God’s love, I would be delighted with myself.
haha
Did you hear him say he only charged one time for a spiritual reading after the lady rang in to ask if he was declaring that income to the revenue, seeing as he’s on disability and all?
Look at the link Holemaster posted. He set his clinic up in 2004 and we’re supposed to believe he only charged one time? My hole.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
He only ever charged for 1 clairvoyant reading?
I dont belive that for a second,he only had this Virgin-Mary based psychotic episode this year and gave up charging for readings when that happened,but was claiming disability..
also his hero is Padre “Mad as a Lorry” Pio.A complete Charlatan and con artist that burned himself on his hands and feet with acid so people would think he was cool…
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
he doesnt charge for his healings but if people want to leave a donation he would accpet it “i’d accept 1 euro joe” – fair enough, from now on no one give him more than a euro a go.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The fact is the woman who called in said he charged HER 40 euros, but also her two sister the same amount, THEN he tried to get them to sign up for ’spritual development classes’ which he was also charging for, but he doesn’t have an income, oh no. People who don’t have incomes are always going about renting rooms to see the public for free.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
They’re such givers
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I wonder where he puts his lolly since he doesn’t even have a bank account, the witless cleet.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Under his spartan mattress.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I’m sure he sleeps on rushes.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Hang on a second, he’s claiming disability? Why can’t he heal himself, the lazy fucker? Also, he says he died when he was 12 or 13, so was he resurrected? Should we crucify him, just to see what happens?
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
In fairness to him,he comes across as more convincing than Bertie “no bank account” Aherne in regards to his finances..
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
He actually said “I don’t even have a bank account”.
He IS Bertie.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
el cuno – that’s a heh x 2
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
That photo of Keith Henderson looks like a still from Cuckoos Nest, post lobotomy.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I must admit – Joe Coleman looks a nicer person than he sounds. He was pretty nasty to all the callers that I heard – and good old Joe D. seemed scared to give him a hard time. (Then again he said he sees him at Mass in Ballyfermot every week!) Twats both of them.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
He puts the mental in fundamentalism…
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Aye, but he sounds exactly right for the fraud he is, a bitter sour lying ignorant toe rag out to fleece folk.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
His main PR woman Mary McGovern / Carberry claims she works for free. Anyone heard this before?
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
“He puts the mental in fundamentalism…”
He puts the ‘fund’ in it too.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Jesus, a Barrytown Elmer Gantry is just what Ireland needs right now. Alan Parker is probably already salivating and thinking about who’ll write the screenplay.
I often wonder if there was a Worldwide Whitetrash contest, would we actually win ahead of all the other top contenders like Louisiana, Kentucky, the Ukraine, Armenia or Wales?
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Someone should have that contest. It’d be incredible. Put all the contestants together and you might get an IQ in double figures.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
any chance he could do a jonestown on it and rid the country of some of it’s overabundance of gobshites?
for a special ‘oirish’ twist he could use spiked red lenonade rather than kool aid.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
are there any pics available for him? google is letting me down on this one
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
http://www.irishtimes.com/indepth/slideshows/knock-apparition-virgin-mary/
Pics there
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
http://summerredneckgames.com/
I think we’d be more than welcome in East Dublin next year.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Knock is the Knackers Mecca!
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Fuck! That Irish Times slideshow is incredible. That bird in the torn jeans is a bit of an apparition alright.
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
These guys look like crack heads, no wonder he has no bank account, he probably spends all of his cash on smack and crack!
Talk about a pack of gullible Cunts following these guys around!
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
“Life of Brian” innit
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
He’s not a tax-dodging clairvoyant, he’s a very naughty boy.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
joe coleman is retarded, cant believe so many people turned up on saturday. Wanted to smash the radio in this afternoon listening to the lies coming from his mouth. he will be back in knock on 5th december to see Mary contrary show up(or not). anyway i am going down to egg the fucker. defo
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Ha.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Damn you. The Ha was for Toronto Icarus.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Just add an extra Ha and everyone’s sorted.
Careful with those eggs though, Senator Dan Boyle will get jealous
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Twenty, as sure as the sun rises in Australia b4 you suckers see it up your way, the inherent truth to crap in the media is directly co-related to the selling of advertising space in said media.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Australia is on average 10 to 12 hours ahead of Europe yet somehow, several years behind it too.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 pm
The whole thing is hilarious, it reminds me of the loony that used to do operations on people without cutting them, and he’d remove tumours and all sorts from their bodies and hold them up to the watching crowd.
It was in Brazil, I think, and he was really famous, but, surprise, surprise, it turned out to be goats guts!
BTW,what’s the story with knacker young wans always dressing like lap dancers these days?
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Quote: “Australia is on average 10 to 12 hours ahead of Europe yet somehow, several years behind it too.”
HM, that’s probably because a lot of Australians have Irish ancestry. ;)
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Yippee – they had one of those blokes on the Late Late a couple of years ago. It’s chicken pieces and fake blood. More charlatans conning sick and desperate people out of their money.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Coleman puts the mental into fucking witless cunt. Himself and the other tool should be tossed naked into the nearest traveller camp, smeared with axle grease and made to squeal like pigs…
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 am
This really is dispicable, cunts like that Joe Coleman should be treated like the fuckin disease they are.
I’m neither the holiest or most devout person, but to see what these two scumbags have turned Knock into is shameful. Knock is an important site to hundreds of thousands of people here and abroad, decent people, maybe delusional, but decent all the same.
Fucking Knackers and Pikeys, scumbags & shysters all over the place. This Coleman cunt knows the Church can’t and wont dare prevent him from carrying on like this because of the bad press they would generate. Imagine the field day the fucking press would have if Pat Lavelle had locked the cunt out and kicked him in the bollox.
“Lavelle countered that, in the face of the indisputable facts, Joe was the “liar”.” this is obvious to all with even the slightest bit of education, which is why the place was full of knackers and pikeys and fuck all else.
Joe Duffy is another self serving cunt, another shyster from Ballyfermot, a den of knackers if there ever was one.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
Gave Coleman the easiest ride of all time today. The only scant bit of criticism was making vague comparisons to Christina Gallagher, but he never did much more than play some clips of her and allow yer man to deny any similarity.
He didn’t tell him to behave when he berated a woman he rightly enough said she didn’t like the atmosphere at Knock – and why would she when the place was crawling with tinkers?
Both Joes are cunts.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 am
The other side of the argument is that thereis always going to be charlatans, and always going to be people gullible enough, lonely, dumb, ignorant,or plain crazy enough to go along with them.
Let’s face it, most of these guys look like their followers, ie: weird!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 am
And I agree about Wheedling Joe Duffy, he is reprehensible!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 am
Christina Gallagher was a greedy self serving con artist, she knew how to play the game & made a mint. She upset and let down a lot of devout people who believed her and donated vast amounts to her and her dodgy priest buddy.
The difference between her and these two Cunts is, she was respectful, she never desecrated a holy site, she didn’t look like a fucking knacker & didn’t attract them like shit attracts flies.
Be in no doubt, I have no time or respect for Christina Gallagher or for that matter anyone who takes advantage of weak, lonely, devout but essentially good people, but at least she had a little class.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 am
“Gave Coleman the easiest ride of all time today” Definately, two local boys together.
I’d say some of those Knacker women in the Times slideshow would run him close on the easiest ride bit though.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 am
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:49 am
Why do you care about the fellow? Just ignore him.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 am
Just saw a pic of the real ‘Joe Coleman’. He looks like a kiddie-fiddler.
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
Why do you care about the fellow? Just ignore him.
Why? Shouldn’t a liar and a charlatan be exposed?
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 am
Just looked at those pics,he has a face you’d find difficult to stop punching,when you take into account what a lying ,tax dodging,bullshitter he is..
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
60e a pop aparently;
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055555828
i’d happily spin enigmatic platitudes for half that
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
The Henderson guy looks like he’s in the throes of an Onanistic wobbly. Bless him.
Shame the Guinness Book of Records people weren’t in Knock last weekend, the record for the largest number of Hiaces in the one spot was there for the taking. Roll on Dec 5th!!
November 5th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Love the picture of the nun….
November 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Roll on 5th December. Hahahahahahahaha
November 8th, 2009 at 12:30 am
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November 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
all the people that read all the papers havent a fucking clue what they are talking about if it was your son would you condem him you fucking would not you read crap and you belive it that makes you a fucking shit head i no joe for the last 40 years the person that said he died at 12 he is the real shit head where did he get that he read it sad fucker he is giving comments and never met the man go back to school and learn good from bad GOB SHITES
November 28th, 2009 at 1:42 am
unfortunately its biased towards the non believers purely because they dont have to prove divine intervention ..its just acceptable that were a species that evolved from nothing???? i cant understand( and probably because im a believer )why the non believers have to make such a fuss why dont thay continue on their merry way towards death and then when they are dying on their deathbeds roar loudly for the christ…..