It’s gonna start getting ugly
Posted on | September 16, 2009 | 104 Comments
As the Lisbon vote gets nearer and nearer you can’t help think that the campaigning, the propaganda, the media blitzes and everything else is going to start getting nasty.
Yesterday it emerged that UKIP Party was getting involved. According to the Irish Times:
UKIP confirmed yesterday it had begun posting some 1.5 million leaflets, which should arrive in people’s letterboxes between September 17th and 21st
Firstly, where the fuck did UKIP get my postal address and what right to do they have to send me any literature?
Secondly, why should anyone in Ireland pay the slightest bit of attention to a UK Political party?
Then you Google them and you see this (click for bigger):
I love that. “Libertarian, non-racist party …”
That is just fantastic. Why don’t they change it to “Libertarian, some of our best friends are black party …”?
Bunchacunts. If I wanted Robert Kilroy-Silk to tell me what I should think then I’d phone the stripey shirted cunt up and ask him myself. In the meantime he needs to keep his stupid face out of my business.
Then Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary, posterboy for the YES vote, calls those urging us to vote NO ‘unemployable fucking headbangers’.
And while O’Leary can grate he’s got a good point. Coir, fucking nutters. Sinn Fein, terrorists with nothing better to do these days. Declan Ganley, shadowy mentalist. Those union leaders who have grown fat and got gout from the scam that was benchmarking, scumbags.
So on the one hand you have Fianna Fail who have raped the ever loving shit out of every single one for as long as we can remember, and on the other we have a bunch of loons.
There really ought to be a ‘You can all go and shite’ option on the ballot card.
And a day wouldn’t be complete at the moment without a word about our old pal O’Donoghue. Watching the cunt at the Listowel Races yesterday was maddening. The big, thick ruddy faced wanker bleating about how he never profited from his expenses. As if that was the fucking point. And this is why these people aren’t accountable. He really thinks he acted with ‘probity’ when he swanned about the place staying in 5 star hotels and flying him and his wife first class. He really does.
Of course he’s utterly wrong. Anyone with half a fucking brain can see that. And when pressed for an apology to the taxpayer whose money he squandered living the life of Reilly he said:
Insofar as one regrets something, I think that is an apology.
No, you horrific fat cunt, an apology is a sincere expression of regret. Not the kind of half-arsed, wait for everything to blow over shite you’ve been coming out with. And you made no apology to the people, only your fuckbuddies in Leinster House, you monstrous clit. You wasted our money living it up. And you should pay for it.
As Ceann Comhairle he is automatically re-elected at the next election. What a shame nobody in the house has the balls to pressure and pressure for this cunt to resign like he should. What a fucking shame he’s going to get away with it all.
Unless he has a heart attack or a stroke. In which case I’ll throw a fucking party.
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September 16th, 2009 @ 10:13 am
Hasn’t Kilroy-Silk quit the UKIP?
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:16 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4189537.stm
Word was that he thought he should be leader.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:20 am
He’s still a cunt though and so are they.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:22 am
UKIP are the British equivalent of SF. Cunts.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:27 am
I’m also appalled the the BS from the Bull didn’t lead to his resignation and it is pathetic that the opposition didn’t call for his head… latest in a long line of reasons to kick this shitty government out. Michael Martin had to resign in the UK Parliament for much less.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:35 am
Kilroy Silk – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwzTuSHjti4
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:40 am
I’ve a new campaign for anyone who’s interested. Although I shouldn’t, I’ll be using my Lisbon vote to show my disgust at the government and I’m voting ‘No’, but, if the Lisbon thing is of such great importance to this country (and I believe it is) and as we are always being fed the bullshit that Cowen and Co continually act in the best interests of this country and its people, then this Lisbon thing is more important than them.
So, Mr Cowen, I put it to you now, you can have my ‘Yes’ vote to Lisbon if you and every single one of your corrupt criminal cronies resign effective immediately.
If enough people get behind that one then the pressure would be on the Government to deliver the right Lisbon Vote.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:40 am
“Sinn Fein, terrorists with nothing better to do these days.” Of course. Let’s not look over our cappuchinos in D.4 and examine the “Loyalist Paramilitaries” too closely (who were the fucking reason the IRA set up shop in the first place) It’s a lovely name for racist bastards who murder … ‘Loyalist paramilitaries”.
To clarify, Dublin ( including D.4 ) and London didn’t give a bollox when Catholics were being ethnically cleansed from the North. If you don’t like what the disinterest from both created, it’s a bit late for showing an interest now.
Oh, incidentally I’m not a RA supporter but as someone with family in the north I can at least take an educated view.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:46 am
Tony – can you explain how the IRA were formed long before the Loyalist paramilitaries came into existance ?
Wanker !
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:47 am
Ha that’s brilliant using Le Cunt as Wikipedia. I like it.
September 16th, 2009 @ 10:50 am
If the ‘loyalist paramilitaries’ were urging us to vote NO I’d have something to say about them too
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:00 am
The Loyalists are always saying No…bored now..
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:02 am
Have to say, Tony, you’re sounding a little bit like a RA supporter. Oh, here comes my cappucino, gotta go.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:14 am
So they were ‘ethnically cleansed’ now were they? You revisionist arsehole, ethnic cleansing was only invented by sky news in 1999, so stick that in your improvised home made device.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:15 am
Maggot,
You really need to brush up on some history…
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:21 am
Tom Dunne summed it up nicely yesterday:
The Edge :Vote Yes
Jim Corr :Vote No
Makes it quite a simple decision really.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:24 am
Might not be the place to cover this globetrotter – and Twenty can call time – but the first Loyalist paramilitary was Founded by Gusty Spence et al in the 1960s and the UDA etc came after them. Cunta all. The IRA were active in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s.
So put that in your pipe bomb and smoke it!
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:33 am
Didn’t profit personally? Surely when you fly first class, stay in 5 star hotels and generally squander the living fuck out of taxpayers’ money on luxury, you are profiting. You have a nice time. You’re jetting off to exotic locales and being treated like a king. It’s not like he was flown secretly to Guantanamo, tortured to fuck for the sake and at the expense of the country. Although that’s what should happen now. Fucking arrogant, hypocritical shower of cunts, the lot of them.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:34 am
Your right, not the time or place.
I see your 1960′s and raise you 1912, Larne etc…
Sorry Twenty
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:35 am
Which IRA are we talking about here maggot?
I can name five different ones, and I’m quite sure you could too if you just bothered to think.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:36 am
Carry on, folks. It’s all good.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:38 am
Oops! I didn’t know it was finished!
G’wan maggot, ya lovable proddy loolah!
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:38 am
Republican–”Dar Dar Dar Sitiation”
Loyalist –”Dar Dar Dar Sitiation”
Everyone else – “Shut the fuck up you naggin’ cunts”
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:42 am
Lookit, if this is still on, someone say something, quick!
I’m still not sure which side I’m on.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:43 am
That John O’Donoghue, what a cunt, eh?
And a very big heh @ Fill
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:46 am
Hey Fill,
I’m sure your soft southern brogue is just charmin…
Pity about the ginger hair.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:49 am
But we already did O’Dunoghue, twice.
Fuck it, you’re right, he’s not gone yet.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:50 am
Yeah! We haven’t done ginger hair for like, ages…
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:51 am
David Thorne’s got just the thing for the bould Ceann Comhairle.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:52 am
Types of IRA:
The Provisional IRA
The Continuity IRA
The Real IRA
I can’t believe it’s not the IRA
Utterly IRA
Quintessentially IRA
Quorn IRA
L-IRA Imunitas
Super IRA
Mono-unsaturated IRA
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:54 am
The Sur-Real IRA
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:54 am
It’s a good job Norn Iron got rid of all its gingers
http://i32.tinypic.com/2hcmbtw.jpg
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:55 am
GlobeTrotter- Its is actually,thanks very much..
The Hair is Ginger with a hint of grey..distinguished looking I would say..
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:56 am
Twenty- Ulster Says Wash N Go!!
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:57 am
The Hair is Ginger with a hint of grey..distinguished looking I would say..
You’re a gringer?
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:59 am
He’s a gouger.
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Yes.. Yes I am..
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:13 pm
Can we get back to ranting about how shit our politicians are please?
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:14 pm
Ok, you’ve got one bullet. One free shot at anyone in Dail Eireann. Who do you choose?
And none of those ‘I’d line them all up one behind the other and use a Magnum answers’.
One free kill.
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:17 pm
Gormley…
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:19 pm
I’d say Harney but I reckon it’d take more than one bullet to kill that fucking Heifer so it’s have to be Lenihan.
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:20 pm
Willie O’Dea
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:28 pm
Can I pick Bertie?
-’Cos I know the rest of them will jump in the way, and I’d have no fuckin’ need to line them up at all.
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:35 pm
Martin Cullen, the Waterford waffler. E-voting machines must be his greatest achievement.
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:36 pm
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
Shoot the one bullet out into the heavens.
Then put in an unvouched expense claim for twenty more, to be used taking out the worst of them as the gormless fuckers wait for the first one to drop back down..
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
Dermot Ahern
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:55 pm
If O’Donoghue gets knocked back to the back-benches he’ll have to fight the next election (with Jackie Healy Rae, again).
The oddness is that he was appointed by Bertrude, not Brine, but like the Harney wan he’ll be let shit on us from a height forever because no one else wants the gig. If I were Brine I’d offer the job to Trevor Sargent, it’d be the smartest move of both their political careers.
Re the one bullet question, can I have a re-usable bullet?
September 16th, 2009 @ 12:58 pm
you should look up “the day kilroy silk lost his mind, jam” on youtube.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:03 pm
See my post above Morgor
or for the lazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwzTuSHjti4
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:07 pm
How about one of them Bolt Gun things from No Country for Old Men Conan..
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:12 pm
No Country for Old Thieving Cunts:
A disgruntled Brendan Gleeson exacts revenge for his parents shoddy treatment by the HSE by shooting each member of the cabinet with a ‘hard as nails cunts’ gun fashioned out of an old oxygen tank from the geriatric ward in St’ James’s.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:18 pm
In the spirit of the Spanish Inquisition, can I dig Haughey up and shoot him?
With a silver bullet, naturally.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:20 pm
Digging up Haughey?
Always remeber,remove the head and destroy the brain..
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:21 pm
1912 ? No loyalist paramilitaries back then – sorry. The UVF then was not in itself illegal –
the first Loyalist paramilitary terrorist crime was when Spence and his cuntish mates started murdering in the mid to late 60s. Before that we had the bombing of Nelson’s Column, the murders of the Border campaign as it is known and the re-emergence of the Republican clubs.
Git – as we started talking about SF, then we are talking about the organisation with which it has links – Martin McGuinness, Martin Ferris etc and which it claims is the legitimate standard bearer for organisation which was involved in the so-called “War of Independence”.
if we are going to look at the myth of the original UVF “bringing the gun into Irish politics” – that Bollix is easily disproved – The IRB were gunrunning from the late 19th century – read The IRB by Owen McGee.
If you want to compare the 1912 UVF to anything you might consider Hobson’s Fianna Éireann founded a decade earlier to provide a nucleus for a future war.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:22 pm
I don’t think “Haughey” died – I think his spirit just moved to a new host when the last one died.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
30 years of pain reduced to bad puns for your amusement…
ha fuck it I’m only joking…..
have you seen our new types of IRA….not content with DAAD (Direct action against drugs) we now also have RAAD (republican action against drugs)
Give it a week or two and there’ll be splinter groups of these groups…RRAAD and CDAAD…
It’s awesome living up here…..
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:29 pm
@One shot? Dick Roche. Then I’d stab him afterwards.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
Can I dibs a free shot at James Nesbitt if he’s visiting Dail Eireann.?
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:43 pm
I’d shoot them in such a way as to render them vegetative but fully aware of what happened to them yet entirely unable move or communicate in any way.
Or is that just a bit too far?
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:43 pm
Nobody’s mentioned the ‘Old IRA’ yet. The original and the best, IMHO.
I just thought I’d throw that in.
As somebody said already, I don’t really give a fuck. It’s over. Let’s all have a big hug.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
Ah…The Old Cuddley IRA.. the little scamps..
Sure they were lovely all together..to be sure to be sure…
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
Hey, all you office-workers!
Can you not stagger your fuckin’ lunch-breaks?
-That’s 2 days on the trot that I couldn’t access this blog between 12:30 and 1:30.
I wouldn’t mind if you said something.
Wimps!
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
”I’d shoot them in such a way as to render them vegetative but fully aware of what happened to them yet entirely unable move or communicate in any way.
Or is that just a bit too far?”
Isn’t that what they did to us? I mean seriously, easy on the Rohypnol there Brian.
September 16th, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
You’re right there Mowl.
We’ve become the Rhohypublic Of Ireland.
It’s time we did something for a change.
Let’s set up a blog.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:07 pm
We could all just live on Another Life instead and have revolutions there.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:22 pm
Maggot,
The UDA were legal for years, still a bunch of cunts. Anyway, let’s just agree that it was all your lots fault, right back to Cromwell, Strongbow etc and leave it at that.
Has to be Bertie for the one bullet, just to stop his comeback…
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:36 pm
Republican Action against People who are Selling Drugs but aren’t US.
My bullet goes right between Bertie’s eyes. That little cunt is as responsible for this mess as anyone.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:39 pm
The UDA were legal for years, still a bunch of cunts.
Bo problems agreeing with that – but the 1912 UVF didn’t run around killing people, unlike the IRA.
let’s just agree that it was all your lots fault, right back to Cromwell, Strongbow etc and leave it at that.
Cromwell, much though I admire him and would say he was the greatest man of the British Isles ( You lot could do with a Cromwell, he’d clean up your Dail! ) and Strongbow ? Nothing to do with my lot mate. We came over well after Cromwell and Strongbow was a Welsh Froggie combo and that was down to the Pope! And of course many Hundreds of years before Strongbow and his mob came over to civilise you lot the Irish had invaded and colonised parts of Jockland, Wales and Cornwall. What goes round comes round!
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:43 pm
Jackie Healy-Rae for being an actual fucking leprechaun.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:45 pm
And then you went and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like “British Isles”
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
At what stage did Nelson Mandela cease to be a terrorist and become a freedom fighter? No seriously please, I just want to know when it might be all right to say “ Gerry Adams did something good “
What you said about a heart attack or stroke for O’Donoghue is the only good thing which happened today.
Bertie the cunt but does it have to be a bullet ? Could it not be like when Martin Sheen killed Marlon Brando in Apocalypse now and with O’Donoghue as the ox getting chopped and hacked in parnell.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:58 pm
Bullets are rather quick.
I suggest we start with a good kerb chomping, like in American History X, and improvise from there.
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:05 pm
What else would I call them Holemaster ?
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
Twenty – how about getting Adebayor in to to some face raking with poison tipped studs ?
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:35 pm
A bus has run into the LUAS on O’Connell St. Dublin… oh the chaos…
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
The North Western Archipelago has a nice ring to it…
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
Luas crash – http://www.flickr.com/photos/darragh/3926211414/
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
More pics here
http://twitpic.com/hxkzr
http://twitpic.com/hxkzy
http://twitpic.com/hxl0j
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
Maggot I refer to them collectively as Britain and Ireland. Britain is the island of Britain. Those of that island are British. It does not refer to Ireland. The term British Isles was foisted upon us by the British considering their greater international voice and domination of the world of cartography and geography for many hundreds of years. It does not mean the term is correct and acceptable to Ireland. It never has been.
It wrongly gives the impression that Ireland is part of Britain which is geographically impossible as Britain is just the island of Britain and it is of course also politically incorrect. Even Northern Ireland is not British, it is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
I have no issues with Britain but I do take exception to people thinking that Ireland is part of it. The term British Isles damages our international standing and undermines our independence.
September 16th, 2009 @ 3:47 pm
Someone say Luas crash?
Sorry Maggot, some other day.
September 16th, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
What Holemaster just said…
September 16th, 2009 @ 4:14 pm
I disagree Hole – it’s obvious from any map that our cluster of Islands form a a collective unit off the bulk of Europe – and British Isles is the historical and obvious name. Very Khmer Vert ( the Irish equivalent of Pol Pot and His Khmer Rouge) of you to try to destroy our shared history. What’s next ? Is it UnIrish to keep with the County system ? That was introduced by the Brits as well. And Towns and cities need to go – they are alien !
It never has been.
Nonsense – some fanatics in the past might have objected but until the 20th century the vast majority of Irish people would have seen no objection to the term, any more than that only a nutter would object to Inismore or Achill being described as an Irish Island.
PC nonsense!
September 16th, 2009 @ 4:26 pm
Thankfully doesn’t look as if anybody has been killed or seriously hurt – I didn’t realise it was for real until I clicked the links.
September 16th, 2009 @ 4:38 pm
Exciting day – Bishop Treanor, with the backing of Cardinal Brady, has weighed in!
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0916/breaking53.htm
Is this the first time or was anything said by the Hierarchy first time round ?
September 16th, 2009 @ 4:44 pm
But they were only referred to as being the British Isles because the British were the dominant force Maggot. It still does not make it acceptable. Your analogy with the Islands is a bit off in fairness now, come on.
We’re talking about two nations with the larger ignoring the geographical entity of the smaller. They are two very different places. Roman colonisation of Britain and not of Ireland has a lot to with it and made them very different from each other.
I have great respect for the British and what they achieved. I can even say I understand the achievements of Cromwell. But I don’t wish for my country to exist in their shadow. It’s very important for others to see we are separate. And hence, I do not use the term British Isles. The passing of time doesn’t make it more right.
September 16th, 2009 @ 5:00 pm
Did anyone see the documentary on More4 last night, Cat Dancers, about the mad white tiger that chomped two of it’s trainers?
I’d like to kit myself out with 2 of those yokes,( whose nuttiness stems from them being inbred, apparently),I’d then tie a nice bloody piece of steak to Bertie Aherne’s scrotum, and release the beasts!
The tigers, that is, not the repulsive TDs.
Any bets the cats may die of poisoning in very short order??
September 16th, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
How you getting to Connolly station?
Any which way but Luas.
September 16th, 2009 @ 7:51 pm
British was the group identity back then HM. And a big part of our Irish identity is still British, just as a goodly part of the English Identity is Irish. We are so closely intermingled as to be inseparable. And after all even Griffith wanted the British Monarchy when he founded the shinners.
It’s as unreasonable to deny that Ireland is in the British Isles as it is for nutty Loyalists to say that NI is not part of Ireland.
And it looks very likely as if Ireland’s first settlers – Mount Sandel, Coleraine – came from the Northern part of the larger neighbouring Island. And go back to when the larger Island was made up of smaller group territories it was Irish groups who were dominant , invading and colonising areas in Scotland, Wales and England.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
Depends on which IRA you mean wanker … sorry … maggot. Do you mean the ‘old’ IRA or the ‘new’ IRA? I was referring to the latter.
Point taken twenty, sorry for the rant.
September 16th, 2009 @ 11:23 pm
VSays: “So they were ‘ethnically cleansed’ now were they? You revisionist arsehole, ethnic cleansing was only invented by sky news in 1999, so stick that in your improvised home made device.”
I’m sure they called your fucking weener something different in the past ( “A tadpole” )
elCuno: “Have to say, Tony, you’re sounding a little bit like a RA supporter. Oh, here comes my cappucino, gotta go.”
Nope, not at all. Cappucino? – get me one too ya tight bastard
September 17th, 2009 @ 12:11 am
Point is Tony that PIRA claim to be the inheritors of the mantle of what is charmingly called “the Old IRA” though they too were murderous bastards.
Glaswegians – no class LOL
September 17th, 2009 @ 2:54 am
I would love to put a bullet in to that fat bogger Gilmore’s head.
I will be attending O’Donoghue’s funeral in a clown costume.
September 17th, 2009 @ 8:55 am
Can we use the bullet to set off the explosives rigged throughout the dail? We just need to make sure it’s one of the few days the cunts are actually there en masse. With their fat snouts in the trough of our money.
September 17th, 2009 @ 10:38 am
You make good points Maggot. No denying the interminglingisational aspect. And the more mixing goes on, the more peace prevails.
I wasn’t aware of the Irish colonisation of parts of Britain (apart from the 1950s). So we were plundering conquering heathens after all!
I would actually support the conversion of Ireland to Protestantism believe or not.
September 17th, 2009 @ 11:32 am
Have to say HM that Ireland is taking Grandmother’s footsteps towards a Protestant attitude – People have an a la carte attitude towards Church teaching and increasingly rather than accept Church discipline are looking towards their own consciences – which is what Protestantism is all about.
As regard colonisation – It was how people lived back then. Might as well criticise lions for eating antelopes. We have moved on from overt colonialism and Imperialism, but it wasn’t necessarily a bad thing in the past – it was how humanity advanced.
September 17th, 2009 @ 1:09 pm
Imagine, we could start celebrating the Battle of the Boyne.
September 17th, 2009 @ 1:10 pm
We should. It was a big event with many positives for all of Europe.
September 17th, 2009 @ 1:52 pm
The 1916 Rising had many positives for the empire on which the sun never sets as well…
Seriously though, what were the positives of the minor skirmish at the Boyne?
September 17th, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
We get those lovely parades every year?
September 17th, 2009 @ 4:53 pm
You could be right Globetrotter – the UK in the long run was better off without the 26, though the same can hardly be said for the 26 as the Ryan Report showed.
Positives ? Setting aside the strengthening of the idea that people could choose their rulers rather than rulers having a divine right, It effectively put the brakes on French ambitions to conquer Europe. League of Augsberg and all that sort of thing.
September 17th, 2009 @ 5:53 pm
Obviously Napoleon decided it was time for another go…
September 17th, 2009 @ 6:02 pm
Napoleon was one of the good guys – it was the lads from THRUSH who were out to dominate the world.
September 18th, 2009 @ 6:37 pm
I don’t do politics anymore, they’re all useless cunts who are merely pursuing a career choice that comes with plenty of perks and a great payslip. They don’t give a flying shitfuck about any of us little people. Abstain from lisbon and any future elections until there are parties with real ideas and alternatives.