An Irish psychiatrist, Dr Bobby Smyth, has called for a complete ban on alcohol advertising and promotion and has uttered the two words which make me want to nail his face to a wall. See if you can spot them. He says:
I am seeing people who start drinking at 13. That gets boring so they move to drugs at 16 or 18. Alcohol is a gateway drug. My advice to parents who don’t want their children to have drug problems is to delay their introduction to alcohol
No, not ‘drug problems’. Not ‘their children’. That’s right, ‘gateway drug’. He reckons that kids get bored of alcohol so they move to drugs. So that’s the obvious explanation for why all the adults in the country are bored of booze and have moved on to toad licking, speedballs, puttings Es in their morning tea and chasing the dragon all day long, isn’t it?
Fucking moron. Alcohol lowers inhibitions but then so does lack of intelligence. I haven’t heard him call for a ban on stupid people. Drinking alcohol does not mean you will take drugs, the same way that smoking a joint does not automatically lead you to a crack den within months. It’s nonsense and insulting to anybody with half a brain. Sadly the people who pay attention to cunts like this, like Noel Dermot Ahern, the fucking ultracunt, don’t come close to having that much grey matter so stupid stuff happens like off-licences closing at 10pm or alcohol advertising being banned.
Dr Bobby Smyth is talking out his gigantic hole. He should go back to listening to people rabbit on about their childhoods to find out why their adulthood is so miserable and shut the fuck up. I read yesterday that they’re even talking about preventing off-licences telling you they have a special offer on some particular brands. Loyalty cards, which some provide, would be banned. The Gardai will soon have the power to levy on the spot fines for public drunkenness.
Where the fuck is it going to stop? Who are these half-witted gobshites deciding these things? What on earth makes them think they know best? Why do we allow them to impose these restrictions on our lives without more protest?
If the Irish people were a prisoner in jail and the government was the big, muscly black ‘tossing the salad’ motherfucker welcoming us to Block C with his cock up our arse we wouldn’t fight back. We wouldn’t try and shoot a fart down his Jap’s eye to give him an embolism. We’d just lie there getting raped saying “Gosh, this is unpleasant. I don’t like this. It’s thoroughly unenjoyable”.
Cunts like Dr Bobby Smyth are allowed make wild and thoroughly inaccurate statements yet nobody ever publicly says ‘Sorry Doc, but you’re talking complete shite. Why don’t you fuck off and shut the fuck up?’. Maybe a couple of thousand people might read my blog every day but why does the media simply report shit like that without challenging it?
It all plays nicely into the hands of the Noel Dermot Ahernites, the dimwits, the Vintner funded cronies whose cash keeps these cunts in clover, who then attempt to curry political favour by pretending they’re doing what they’re doing to combat this terrible plague of debauched, alcohol fueled madness that is sweeping the country.
‘Oh we must stop this crazy behaviour, the drunks on our streets, the late night mayhem’, they bleat, not realising that what they’re doing is just making things worse. Get everyone out looking for taxis/nightbuses/kebabs at the same time, that’s some fucking top class thinking right there.
Fuck me I hate these people.
There was some other fucker going on yesterday about liver disease as well because people are drinking at home! We have to drink at home because they don’t want us to drink in pubs any more. They are being wheeled out by the government to soften us up for an increase in booze prices in a month’s time. Why can’t they all just fuck off and mind their own business? It’s enough to make you go on drugs. Intolerable bores are a gateway drug, but it doesn’t stop them bleating all over the airwaves.
so what do you want to do, twenty? sign me up.
and that prohibition thing worked so well the last time!
I’ve always thought the ‘gateway’ logic was seriously flawed. Most junkies started off smoking hash a few years before taking heroin. In no way does that mean everyone who smokes hash / drinks / takes pills will become a junkie. It’s absolute nonsense logic that has a nice ring to it for idiot soundbites.
we know it’s bollocks. they know it’s bollocks.
but it plays well with the masses.
Smyth says that alcohol consumption has gone up in Ireland by 40%. He’s a cunt. Wine has gone up and beer and spirits consumption are way down.
Wine has gone up because more people are having ‘porties on the potio’ or showing off the series of planks laid in the back garden we now call ‘decking’.
He wants alcohol advertising banned. He’s an ignorant cunt.
Sweden and France have had alcohol advertising bans in their media for decades- has it made a difference to their alcohol consumption? Has it fuck. In both countries people drink like fish.
I notice that in the response to the Government Task Force on Alcohol Abuse he was one of the authors calling for more money for his profession and a greater involvement for his profession in getting grubby paws on public money.
Not only that- in appendix one of their contribution to the Task Force, (by now all wearing gimp masks and rubber uniforms) he and his highly trained cunt colleagues have helpfully provided a sliding scale of types of intervention needed and when.
Note basic level- subject ‘considering experimentation with drugs or alcohol’ (ie anyone who’s even had the thought they might go for a pint) requires ‘intervention’.
The WHO have been at this for years- lumping alcohol consumption in with illicit drug use and hoping to tar both with their little feather. The WHO are, it needs to be said, socially engineering cunts of the very highest level.
And Smyth is a social engineering, medical ‘messiah complex’ cunt of the very first water.
As Twenty said- ‘fuck off’.
“Fuck me I hate these people”
Not as much as I hate Noel Ahern, brother of Bertrude, junior minister for housing for several years, and a do-nothing, achieve-nothing scab on the Irish tax payer.
Not wishing him any harm, like.
And yeah, water was my gateway to alcohol. Let’s ban water…
I met someone this morning that I haven’t seen for a long time. He’s owed me money for repairing his computer for the last 10 months.
He didn’t have any money, so he gave me a little piece of hash and 5 E’s. (Only 3 left now!)
Being owed money is the new gateway to drugs.
The two words that stand out for me are ‘gets boring’. Alcohol ‘gets boring’? He should be introduced to the ‘gateway’ of a farm somewhere in Monaghan, by having his head covered in cream and stuck through its bars, with a very over-excited and hungry bull on the other side. Twat.
Reading the Irish Times online is a gateway to downloading Asian child pornography, research has shown.
The real gateway to stronger and more dangerous drugs is prohibition.
-Pubs/Off-License closed too early? Back to the mates for a few spliffs.
-Can’t find any decent hash? You might be tempted to go for an E.
-Can’t get an E? Go back to the ATM, and maybe you can get some Coke.
At the end of the day, we should be entitled to have a good time in whatever way we choose. These Do-Gooders don’t live in the real World at all, do they?
I thought the two words were going to be ‘I am’.
Don’t see the problem with an advertising ban though. There hasn’t been a good beer ad since that one where it was raining and you could fry an egg on Kitty Whatshername’s ass.
And that was for Harp.
But I did 2 E’s this morning, so I’d still ride the arse off of any one of them.
They’re not too bad really, are they?
Oh, OK then.
Being able to see is a gateway to being subjected to alcohol ads. Everybody in Ireland should immediately be blinded with a big rock.
Hmmmm, ‘Ultracunts’ just made me think of small men wearing tiny ronnies singing moodily. No hooch advertising, but how will I kow it’s cocktail hour. Gateway? Zool? Ringbearers? I don’t know. Perhaps we should just ban shrinks. Less confusing that way.
I had an alcohol-related idea the other day. Over here in England there is a ‘Good Beer Guide’ that comes out every year, and which appeals to CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale) types etc.
My idea is to do a companion volume called the ‘Any Auld Piddle Guide’. The writers of the guide would visit every pub in the country that stocks, not just real ale and imported Australian stout, but, well, just beer. They would get drunk on whatever auld piddle the bar sold, like Carling or Carlsberg, and certify that it was eligible for the ‘Any Auld Piddle Guide’.
Commenting on drugs when you’re actually on drugs feels very empowering.
Commenting on commenting on drugs on drugs is even better.
“The WHO have been at this for years- lumping alcohol consumption in with illicit drug use and hoping to tar both with their little feather. The WHO are, it needs to be said, socially engineering cunts of the very highest level.
And Smyth is a social engineering, medical ‘messiah complex’ cunt of the very first water.”
The WHO, Batty? Dear me, I could have sworn that Bob Smyth was with the Cure. Speaking of which, there’s a rock group that should be banned in Ireland. After all, its name has a vague association with alcohol and will no doubt turn all our impressionable teenagers into raving dipsomaniacs. Dr. Smyth disband your rock group now, you despicable hypocrite!
Burgers and chips are next on the list. They’ll argue that fatty food causes obesity and serves a risk to public health.
If only, Lung. The World Health Organisation have managed to quietly and without much fanfare slide in various ‘health targets and requirements’ to membership countries’ legal systems.
Many of these targets are laudable- but there is a coterie of prohibitionists, religionists and apprentice social engineers without the courage to be open about their paternalistic endeavours who forge careers in organsiations like the UN and W.H.O and their sole happiness is in annoying ordinary people.
They produce reports on Africa and India for much money under the guise of improving healthcare but spend shitloads spewing out reports on how they hope to encourage ‘gender equality’ so that men and women there can starve at an equal pace.
Mr. Lung, I believe Dr. Smyth was actually in a band called the Smyths. I don’t know that much about them, but they were devoted pioneers and avid members of the Legion of Mary. I think their best known song was “Heaven knows I’m miserable. Now.”
When it comes to drugs, I have this one question;
Considering that I have no money until tomorrow, and only 1 can of Dutch Gold left, should I do those other 3 E’s now, or save them for better times?
Don’t bother answering. I’ll have done them before you finish reading this. See yiz all tomorrow.
what sort of yoke are they anyway there Monkeyballs? Meself and me mate used to get these great ones called ‘Coca-Colas’ with the logo on them…pure and simple everytime they were. *sheds tear in memory of crazy drug fuelled twenties*
Whiskey in my bottle as a baby was my gateway.
MB – when low on stocks, it’s all about choosing what moment to magnify rather than how to get over a hump.
on the other hand – neck ‘em
“…repairing his computer…”
I take it it was an old Gateway pc that you repaired?
El Cuno, heh-hooh. I’ve an image in my mind now of a psychiatrist in a white coat prancing around a stage with flowers trailing from the ‘I’m a bummer’ pocket of his jeans.
He’d be a lot more useful and entertaining. One of the king anti-alcohol campaigners was working in Sweden for ages for a bunch of intellectual paupers called SORAD who kept producing daft reports that were eminently challengeable.
He’s buggered off to Australia now in the hopes of converting them to a non-alcoholic Jesus.
Keep the bars open twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Then there would be no rush to go charging to the bar at opening time and you could leave whenever you felt like leaving. Takes the stress out of drinking.
There’s a ban on stupid people? Shit! I’d better hide.
Drinkers are becoming the new smokers, you see there is little point in publically haranguing drug users because we/they don’t give a fuck and there is nothing the government can do. So they have victimised smokers the next easy target is drinkers. It is all half arsed though because they want the tax from us. They would be better legalising everything and then using the tax to provide policing and support systems for the cunts that cannot handle their substance abuse without fucking everyone else over.
Monkey,I always found 1 every half hour was optimum usage, although I once reached twelve and ground a couple of teeth out.
You too, PP!
I take it it was an old Gateway pc that you repaired?
hah
MB:wait till about 6,double drop and fairly soon it will be 10pm and time for the last one..
neck the can now though..enjoy!
Yokes on a tuesday..jammy cunt..
Gateway PCs lead onto Dells. Eventually you’ll be using Macs every day, then you’re hooked.
The idea of doing a yoke these days makes my stomach feel weird. The come-down is just horrendous once you go past 30.
MB is going to really suffer so.
I meant 30 years of age, not 30 yokes.
Can’t believe he’s going to take more than two in one day. Is it deffo ‘e’ and not that well-known horse tranquilliser ketamine?
If its ketamine I’d tranquillise a horse instead.
I meant 30 years of age, not 30 yokes.
Heh…
I hear ya,but i still like to indulge now and again,special occasions etc.. i fully prepare myself for the brutality of the come down,then i go for a severe amount of pints the day after indulging..doesnt help mind..
I’ll always remember my first E. I was incredibly charming, very funny, a great dancer and shit cool and everyone was really nice.
If only they’d put that in a pill, Hm.
>Reading the Irish Times online is a gateway to downloading Asian child pornography, research has shown.
You got me! Red handed!
Must Ban Coca Cola!
I remember as a child drinking coke, I would pour it very fast so it would fizz up and I would then pretend it was a pint of Guinness.
At the age of around twelve, I got very sophisticated, and poured it slowly so it would go flat and then pretend it was whiskey I was drinking. Its reddish brown colour looked like bourbon, or even brandy if I was really skulled (in my imagination, that is.)
I now live in Japan, where convenience stores sell beer round the clock. (They only turn off the vending machines at 11pm to disencourage the schoolkids) and funnily enough there are a lot less cunts than you all seem to encounter.
(But by no means none…)
Hence, drinking Coke is a gateway to living in Japan…(?? – note to self; shut up)
Tony
georgiasam, a “Good Beer Guide” would be rather pointless here, seeing as we have a McDonalds approach to beer. Same limited choice of basically shite products no matter which outlet you go to. Thankfully Guinness is good (though not in niteclubs), just about everything else is pretty cack. Unless you’re unfortunate enough to be from Cork, in which case Murphy’s is passable. The Brits may have their faults but at least you can get a decent pint over there.
Bang on.Couldn’t agree with you any more.
Remmber .
He’s a state funded gimp who likes to give whatever group he represents visibility.
Given the fact that a lot of funding is going to get chopped everyone is coming up with “initiatives”
The more asinine but worthy and reflective the better.
Another point the cuntbags who got elected are looking for any justification to justify the increases in taxes that are coming on alcohol.
Not the shit that is deliberately aimed at kids such as the alcopops but every thing.
I remember reading somewhere (Ben Goldacre.Bad science column in the Guardian I think) that the alcohol quantity that was defined as a unit was pulled out of the air.No actual rational given for the quantity.Maybe someone here can verify that.
That Mark Twain essay mentioned here a few days back sums up these prissy saddo’s
All sanctions. No solutions but sanctions.
Having vented my righteous spleen and read the other posts.I’m wondering are we a kind of Borg linked conciousness.Or unconciousness depending on the time and circumstances?
A complete ban on any and all fuckin’ advertising is good with me.
being bored is a gateway feeling.. im to the pub cos there’s fuck all else to do
10 PD I was thinking that too, but I have to admit I’d miss the Guinness ads. The swirly bit.
And there’d be less music sponsorship, that would be a bad thing.
Neil Kinnock was the gateway politician to the Blessed Margaret Thatcher.
The Irish Times seems a good read – certainly better than the Times of London
Just found this
“Evolution fine but no apology to Darwin, says Vatican”
And this about Female Irish Bloggers
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2008/0913/1221208712420.html
Way ahead of you on that one, maggot.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN IRISH PSYCHIATRIST..Irish Lunatics, yes.
is that right? jaysus… good man
SG, OK, mate.
I’ve never found alcohol to be a gateway to anything other than lots more alcohol and a bit of regrettable falling down. If anything alcohol has given me more problems with gateways than anything else. Latches are more fiddly with 10 thumbs.
If anything, alcohol is a Gateway to pregnancy.
I’ll bet this is research sponsored by the rohypnol advisory council.
A survey has shown that smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.
Here here twenty. Right on the button.
One of the many reasons I got out of Ireland.
If you want 24 hour drinking and sunny weather move to Australia.
Drink to my health Irish!
Dr Smyth has obviously not spent stretches of his life drinking far too much alcohol.
Have a read of Newton Emersons article in todays IrishTimes.
The equality act will save us all.
I’m glad to hear the Irish Times is keeping up its standards. I only read The Times over here in the ‘Oooh-K!’ on the weekend for the arts n’farts pages.
I’m troubled by something and maybe youse can help. I was walking home last night and couldn’t escape the feeling that I was beginning to actually have a sneaking regard for Monkey Balls.
Anyone with that careless disregard for safety around illicit drugs usually has a friend in me.
I don’t know what to do about it. As for Smyth, I don’t know what he’s doing in Ireland. Sigmund Freud said the only people analysts couldn’t analyse in the entire world were the Irish. He didn’t know why. I do.
Someone should tell Smyth he’s wasting his time in the Repubbalic.
Noddy asked about alcohol ‘units’. From the UK department of health (cunts) web-page.
‘One UK unit is 10ml or eight grams of pure alcohol (also called ethanol). You can calculate the units in a drink by multiplying the amount in millilitres (ml) by the strength (ABV) and dividing the result by 1000. There’s a unit for every percentage point of ABV in a litre: e.g. a litre of a typical whisky (37.5 ABV) will contain 37.5 units.’
The idea of a unit originated from a meeting of alcohol experts (heh) at the department of health many moons ago. They had to try to find some common way of giving people information about what they were drinking as obviously the common man can’t count pints and might start saying things like ‘fill up this bucket here, Mikey. And put a head on it.’
In the real world nobody comes into work and say’s ‘Jesus, I’m not well at all. Shouldn’t have had that extra 19 units.’
To drink excessively or not is the individual’s call. If a person decides to ruin their own life, and by assocciation, families, friends etc, by doing so then the drink police should move in. Like most Irish people I was a victim of the demon drink long before I tasted it.
To be honest, sherbert dip dabs were a gateway for me. Man, how I consumed copious amounts of those things when I was a nipper. I just couldn’t get enough of that glorious white powder. Of course, the buzz I got from eight packs of the stuff diminished as I got older. Then, in college, I tried alcohol. And… for shame… marijuana. Now, I just sit, working in my well-paid job, worrying about an addiction I have to my comfortable lifestyle. All because of those gate-way sherber dip dabs.
ooooh it causes me much anguish when your rants are righteous and so so true.. but enough of that. I was wondering if you could point me to some help.. A friend shared a small garden gates many years ago and ……………………
The people are sheep, nobody complains when their liberties are taken by the nanny state. Someone in the dept of finance has realised that we will drink more at home, create more tax revenue and so they decided to make the bars too uncomfortable for us. Is there a journalist or editor out there willing to grow a pair of balls and take on these idiots and their experts. I had to leave and go to a country where nobody is told what to do by the state, they drink all hours of the day and night,they smoke in the bars, people can still have a drink and drive and there is virtually no drunken rowdiness.
After 3 terms of FF dictatorship and the ruin they have brought on the country by concentrating on nanny state shite rather than the economy, a revolution of some kind will be due.
Papalamour, i can’t guarantee you a small gate . But by Jaysus I can get a big one for you.
Ireland is not the brightest star in the heavens. wha’ happend de tygor. I’m entyutled to a job, deese foriegn cunts taken’ all our jobs. Are you working? No, but I’m looking for work. Ad Infinitum. Twenty, excuse me but the country is fucked. Their are none so blind as does who will not see.
Cromwell was a libertarian compared to these neo-Puritans anti-alcohol people. Stop the pleasures is their motto.
Think it’s bad in Ireland? Worse in the US, but we’ll get to their condition soon.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/armentano-p/armentano-p38.html
Freud was quoted as saying about the Irish:
“This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever.”
Cromwell was a libertarian compared to these neo-puritans who want to ban alcohol.
In the US, the “stop the pleasures” crowd is much worse, but perhaps we’ll get there soon.
“Drug War’s Latest Tally: 872,721 Pot Arrests, an All-Time High”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/armentano-p/armentano-p38.html
The BBC now tells us there are nine types of drinker.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7619508.stm
I think I have qualified for about six of them in my lifetime.
Tony
does anybody know of an independant news website, other than indymedia which seems to be run by crusties, wackos and shinners
Lord Elpus says:
To drink excessively or not is the individual’s call. If a person decides to ruin their own life, and by assocciation, families, friends etc, by doing so then the drink police should move in. Like most Irish people I was a victim of the demon drink long before I tasted it.
Lord Elpus,
Do you also ‘suffer’ from ADHD. Before it was invented, what would you have ‘suffered’ from?
DFI furniture is advertised all the time. i don’t see swarms of young people wandering around in a daze muttering about cheap couches.
The biggest influence on young people is their parents. Here in the UK when the smoking ban was introduced you had Gobshite and his wife saying ‘oh great we can bring the kids to the pub now the poor smoke benighted little fuckers’.
To watch Dadda and Mumser show them how adults relax by putting drink down their neck.
You have to hand it to the vast herd of humanity- ever eager to believe there is a cause other than themselves for every fucking problem.
it’s called ‘externalisation’ and IS actually a valid psychological term.
‘Alcohol ruined my life’. No it didn’t, fuckbag, YOU ruined your life and you chose alcohol with which to do it. Because itw as swisher than a bag of Bostik.
Thanks for the info batty.
Next question.
How the fuck is 2 1/2 pints construed as binge drinking by these clowns?
Anyone?
I remember when a binge meant you drank solidly for four or five days or a week or two until you could drink no more or the money ran out, and you either went to bed for a week or you were carted off to the Mental for your own good.
He prolly just means people who abuse one drug are more likely to co-abuse with another, not rocket science really. Kids who start drinking at that age probably have a shit life with a shit family and shit prospects, so let them eat drugs, that lot off tele in shameless are alright.