Lisbon voting
Posted on | June 11, 2008 | 110 Comments
In the absence of any kind of information that would explain the treaty, what its implications are and such, I phoned up all the major political parties and asked them for their stance on terrorist fist jabs.
Every one of them told me to stop wasting their time, they were too busy to be dealing with messers.
Oh, when they want something you can’t get away from the cunts but when you want something from them it’s ‘Go away. Seriously. Stop phoning. Your scaring our receptionist. We’ve got caller ID and we’ll ring the Guards’.
Fuckers. That’s a big fat NO vote from me tomorrow.
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June 11th, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
I salute you, with the No-ing Nod.
June 11th, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Terrorist fist jab atcha.
June 11th, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
Btw, that’s not as violent as the Nihilistic Nod, known colloquially as ‘a loaf in the snot’
June 11th, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
That’s a good thing. Can’t have no voters going around loafing each other. It’d look bad.
June 11th, 2008 @ 2:56 pm
That thing where they lift the TD who just won his seat onto their shoulders is known as the “Halfwit’s Hoist”.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
The Bertie Bollock Shake is popular in the Condra. Probably now known as the Cowan Crunch.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
Then there’s the Harney Headlock, when she drags you off to her lair, for lunch.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
Imagine receiving a Terrorist Fist Jab from Cowen. Egads! I’m sure his wife will want to avoid that.
Wait, does he have a wife?. I just realised that I don’t know. What a wonderful feeling.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
Is Cowen John Prescott’s ugly twin brother ?
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
Yes, he has a wife and two daughters.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
So now you do know, roosta. Sorry about the wonderful feeling.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
Good poster on your site, BTW.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
On HIGNFY they said that Prescott claims Thatcher used to flirt with him in his new book.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
I’d have thought the houses of parliament would have been a more comfortable place for flirting.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
That was horribly unsettling B’dum B’dum – but in the light of the Major-Currie liason and the David Mellor revelations also quite believable!
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
John Major, not Twenty.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:30 pm
No, it was Twenty Major and Tim Curry.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Twenty’s heart belongs to Dana.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
And his arse to Naillerz, if he can ever find him.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
I heard that John Major ran away from the circus to be an accountant.
Remember the grey Spitting Image puppet of him? When I think of him, that’s what he looks like.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
Good man Twenty sir. Good to know that there’s another no out there tomorrow. Feckers, trying to pawn this lemon off on us and couldn’t even be arsed to read it themselves. Let’s hope they get around to it before they ask us to vote on it again after it’s rejected.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
Here in Westminster there’s an equally important vote – will the authorities be allowed to detain Owls for 42 days ?
I’m all for it.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
Of course they’ll ask us to vote again, but if we vote no, it might demand a bit more clarity next time.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
maggot, you’re in Westminster?
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
Not personally Jo – but My MP’s vote could be crucial.
But back to the ROI and Lisbon – save yourselves time and money and vote yes – they’ll just keep putting it in front of you until they get the vote they want – and every time it’s you that pays for the referendum.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
Maggot aka Tony Blair.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Note NYOES!
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Shame on you morgor – you think I would sink as low as Tony Booth’s daughter ?
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
I’m voting, yes. Yes am I voting No.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
I’d say Thatcher was a good ride in her day, you know, demanding, in charge, job done properly. She’s still a cunt though.
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
Ah here, HM, just “yuk!”
June 11th, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
Not anymore Tinman, I mean back in the day you know, WAY back in the day.
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
I’m voting no and almost all of my friends are too.
Apologies for a comment that is in topic and not related to Margaret Thatcher’s fanny.
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Apology not accepted, LtheL.
If we wanted a serious debate on the Lisbon Treaty we’d go to..er, well…
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Well hopefully people actually vote the way they are saying they are going to vote unlike last years general elections
In pubs across the land you could hear:
“Im definitly not voting FF in,no way s’ry Bob”
Cunts
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Well in that case here’s a pic of young Maggie. That overbite would provide heightened oral pleasure but would you let her rim you? http://www.bbc.co.uk/election97/background/procedure/50thatc.jpg
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
What’s so difficult about understanding a 280 page treaty document and then summarising your opinion into a yes or no. My eight year old told me they did it in school, at the end of religion class. Easy peasy, I think he said.
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
You are the sickest bunch of fucking deviants I have ever come across…You would pass by a great ride like Harney for frostyminge Thatcher. Sick! Sick! Sick!
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
ah you would like
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
She put the snatch in Milk Snatcher…
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Everyone who votes No is a cunt.
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Why?
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Is this more like it, sAm?
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Yeah, why?
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
John is a cunt… ooooh i wonder what witty retort will fly back at me….
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
it’ll probably have the word cunt in it..i suspect..
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
I would vote No just because some cheese eating surrender monkey said “Ze first to sooffer weel be ze Irish”
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
Is everyone impressed by my command of the French language?
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
PP:you’d make a very fine Musket Dropper..
June 11th, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
Jesus. How long ago did we find out there was going to be a referendum? You’d think you moany cunts could have taken half an hour to read the Wikipedia article at least.
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Half an hour? It’s a massive article, with loads of made up and tricky words like ratify and ammend and treaty and lisbon. Can’t make head nor tail.
Referendums are confusing.
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
PP, vote no because you don’t agree with the treaty, don’t vote no because of something a cheese-eating surrender monkey said. Anyway, do you even have a vote??
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
No, I don’t have a vote thus use of the word “would” however most of the fuckwits who will be voting will
a) not divorce this issue from party politics
b) think that somehow this vote means a vote against europe
c) Have no fucking understanding what is contained in the treaty other than the shit they are being told by either the Yes or No camp.
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Agree with a lot of that PP. The fuckheads that annoy me the most are the people who are voting no because ‘the government aren’t doing a good job’ or the total cunt who wrote a letter to the Irish Times on Monday saying he was voting no because of the things that came out in the tribunal about Bertie Ahern.
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
i think he said thatcher used to smile at him and even winked once!
then ian hislop said he sounded like a 14 year old, paul merton said “14 year olds dont want maggie flirting with them” and clarkson says “william hague did”.
June 11th, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
Forget the jabs and the jabberin, it’s fistin we want fistin is your only man, more fistin, more fuckin fistin.
June 11th, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
PP, vote no because you don’t agree with the treaty, don’t vote no because of something a cheese-eating surrender monkey said.
But if you vote no you’re a cunt?
June 11th, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
DUP Power!
My inside sources tell me the price of their support was the return of the death penalty for traffic offences.
June 11th, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
Twenty Vote no because you’re a cunt or if you you are a cunt vote no ? tad confused in any event you’re a cunt anyway,
I’m voting no and i’m in Chicago where dead people vote…
June 11th, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
Well, I know I’m a cunt but I don’t get why somebody who disagrees with the treaty and votes no is a cunt like John says.
June 11th, 2008 @ 6:57 pm
I was twiddling away on me oul’ typewriter/television combo-unit about this very subject for the last few hours. Unbeknownst to me, you lot were verily doing said same thing. Forsooth, I bequest that ye merrily make ye’er way hastily to http://monkeyballs.baywords.com/ which is still not working properly, but I think it will be fixed soon.
(This presumption is based on me being an optimist, nothing else.)
All your questions about this treaty will be answered.
And that’s a Monkey Balls Guarantee!
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:00 pm
Well, I know I’m a cunt
No way!
Have you Trade marked your name ? I’m thinking of an Irish martial arts book – “Twenty Major, Fistings of Fury”
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:08 pm
Twenty, there’s different levels of cuntishness. Everyone who votes no is a bit of a cunt, because I’m voting yes and anyone who disagrees with me is a cunt. However, anyone who votes no as a protest to either the government or Bertie Ahern is in the upper echelons of cuntishness purely due to their stupidity.
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
Here’s how I see it.
Someone: Hey everyone, we’re going to change things, just need to get agreement.
Everyone: Oh really? What are we going to change?
Someone: Oh just some stuff, nothing big.
Everyone: Well like what? How does if affect me?
Someone: Ah nothing really, just the way we do things around here.
Everyone: Can’t you just detail it and let us know exactly what the changes are?
Someone: Look, if we don’t change it, things could get tricky.
Everyone: But everything is fine no?
Someone: Just do it, it’s for your own good, we’ve no choice.
Everyone: NO
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Cunts all round and not a fist in sight.
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
Everyone who votes no is a bit of a cunt, because I’m voting yes and anyone who disagrees with me is a cunt.
That’s the kind of logic I like. I’m sure many people who are voting no aren’t doing it just because Bertie is a inveterate gambling spoofmonster though.
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:39 pm
Mary, are we talking vaginal fisting or anal fisting?
June 11th, 2008 @ 7:42 pm
It does not matter how we vote, China is going to want they’r toys back sooner than later.
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
China is going to want they’r toys back sooner than later.
Surely the toys are American* ?
* Toys R US
‘ ‘ ” ‘ ”” ‘ ”’ ‘
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
“Twenty Major, Fistings of Fury”
You’re just waiting for the video.
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
John: Are you Biffo in disguise?
or just a fucking FF ball-licker willing to bow their every whim.I am not a cunt but i’m voting No so your theory is fucked straight away.The reasons i’m voting no is because not one politician from either side of the arguement is able to explain what the fuck the treaty is about and if i dont know what the whole thing is about im not going to vote for it so i will vote against it in order that i have used my democratic right to vote.and if you dont like my reasons then sire ,You are the cunt…
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:24 pm
You’re just waiting for the video.
Only if you are starring Twenty – the one with Nonny and Monkey balls was, frankly, very disappointing.
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:29 pm
XXX rated that, for sure.
June 11th, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
And the elephant was under age. The stunt owls were a nice touch though. Certainly sorted out the Richard Geres.
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:01 pm
MB Good stuff on the blog. I wish your comments were up. then I could respond to your ploy of sneaking past the guy on the door in a friendly way to avoid paying in by saying I’m fairly sure you didn’t actually give me that fiver for the ticket ;)
morgor – for some reason, the word ‘fisting’ makes me laugh, but the words ‘vaginal fisting’ make me cringe a bit.
I’m putting Twenty down on my Christmas list for a gentleman’s fisting glove from Brown Thomas. That’s clearly what you get for the man who ahs everything.
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:07 pm
don’ be so rude morger, not that kind of fistin, bare knuckle fistin like the knackers, my new boyfriend a tinker he realy is a tinker, backbone of this country they are, no debt, just rabbits deer and fourwheel drives.
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
the word ‘fisting’ makes me laugh, but the words ‘vaginal fisting’ make me cringe a bit.
hehe, fisting is so passé.
I guess I should stay clear of the phrase “anal leakage” then too?
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
only if it’s related to the fisting
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
I’m not arguing mary, but I am interested to find out how the tinkers are the backbone of the counry?
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:14 pm
country, even
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:14 pm
“more of a trickle” has more class morgor the proctologist
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
I hate that the ‘No’ vote will get it tomorrow just because the majority of the country are too stupid to read up on it for themselves, instead choosing to err on the side of the hippies who are only sowing confusion because they can.
Seriously, it’s a good treaty.
It just doesn’t have a purpose that has a tangible result that can be understood by the guy on the street corner.
I came up with an ‘Applied’ version, rather than the Referendum Commissions double-negative-filled abridged one:
The treaty doesn’t -do- anything.
It sets up the rules and regulations for when the EU actually does get around to doing things.
It’s all about committees, exchanges of power, and bullcrap about who can do what under what conditions.
But Ireland can stay out of anything it wants to stay out of. That’s it.
And no, I don’t follow any particular Party.
I don’t like the gun-runners, nor Joe Higgins who likes to turn up at a rally, tussle with the Gardaí and get his picture in the paper, nor the slimy cunts who just tell us to vote yes without explaining why.
But I didn’t get a reason to vote yes before I read the damn thing myself. Most people didn’t.
Vote Yes and don’t give the hippies the chance the bragging rights for showing up the slimy gits on the other side.
Their standard treaty poster is ‘You will lose power’.
They said the same thing about joining the bloody EU in the first place. I think that decision turned out pretty well for Ireland.
June 11th, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
I hate that the ‘No’ vote will get it tomorrow just because the majority of the country are too stupid to read up on it for themselves,
What about the majority of people who are voting yes simply because FF, FG or Labour are telling them to. That’s just as stupid.
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Irish Voters Can Tell EU Drones to Take a Hike: Matthew Lynn
by Matthew Lynn
June 11 (Bloomberg) — Irish elections are usually something that can be safely ignored by the rest of Europe. Not tomorrow. Ireland will be the only one of the European Union’s 27 members to put the new governing treaty to a popular vote.
The decision is on a knife’s edge. One poll last week showed a majority in the “no” camp, though it looks as if many Irish are undecided. One thing is certain: If the treaty vote fails, it will be as dead as the ill-fated constitution that preceded it.
The Irish should take that chance. The treaty tries to create an EU president and foreign policy when neither is wanted or needed. It is yesterday’s answer to yesterday’s question. The EU has spent 10 years on constitutional issues, instead of addressing climate change, population decline, racial integration and scarcity of natural resources, all of which are pressing.
The Irish could do the whole European continent a favor by killing the treaty, sending a message to the EU’s leaders to get on with something more important.
There is a lot at stake in tomorrow’s vote. The treaty, which was signed in Lisbon in December, overhauls the EU’s founding documents. It creates the post of president, strengthens the foreign policy-making function and hands more power to the European Parliament. It repackages the 2002 and 2003 constitution developed by former French President Valery Giscard d’Estaing. It collapsed after French and Dutch voters rejected it.
Opponents Lead
The Irish still need plenty of convincing. An Irish Times/TNS MRBI poll published on June 6 gave opponents a lead, 35 percent to 30 percent. A poll published by the Sunday Business Post showed supporters leading 42 percent to 39 percent, but with 19 percent undecided.
“An Irish rejection would sap the political will of governments to implement a difficult set of reforms to the EU’s institutions,” Hugo Brady, a research fellow at the Centre for European Reform in London, said in an analysis this month.
With only 4.2 million people, it might seem destructive of the Irish to attempt to throw out a treaty that has been endorsed by the EU’s leaders. The Irish have benefited from the EU more than most countries, as the “yes” campaign points out. And while it is a myth that Ireland’s economic boom had much to do with the EU — low taxes played a far bigger role — it has certainly benefited from the single market. Even so, they should pluck up the courage to say no. Here’s why.
Already Rejected
First, there is no good argument for bringing back a slightly modified version of a document that was rejected by voters. Worse, this time around most people haven’t been offered a vote. A poll of more than 17,000 people across Europe by the think tank Open Europe found that 75 percent wanted a say before any more powers were handed over to the EU. They should have been given the chance to vote on the new treaty — and if their leaders won’t give it to them, it should be rejected by the one electorate that will be asked.
Next, an EU president will either be a divisive figure — former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair may be a candidate — or a nonentity. It is hard to see how either can do much good. As for a foreign policy, it is impossible to come up with a strategy that will satisfy the Atlantic-oriented British, the fiercely independent French or the eastward-looking Germans. The nations of Europe have such different traditions and interests, they can’t create a single foreign policy in the way they could a single currency. All they will do is spend years wrangling over a policy on Zimbabwe or Myanmar — and come up with nothing.
Single State
Most importantly, the EU needs to change direction. It should stop building the apparatus of a single state. People don’t want to be ruled from London, Madrid or Berlin, let alone Brussels. Catalonia and Scotland are demanding greater autonomy. The Czech Republic and Slovakia have happily separated. Some of the greatest successes in Europe are micro-nations such as Latvia and Estonia. The times demand a looser, more flexible confederation, not a bigger, more centralized one.
The EU has spent a decade negotiating a constitution and its successor treaty. In that time, the world has moved on. It would be better if the Irish killed the treaty and let the EU start working on things its people are really concerned about.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=ajbots1VkOFc&refer=home
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
willies
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
I like visiting Twenty’s place, there is a little bit up in the top corner which tells me ‘ you are here…. home’ and every bloody time he’s got it right ( apart from when I was on holiday)
What is a bit disturbing is that the future of the West is about to be written by people called Dirty dave, Stinking Pete, Monkey Balls ( who’s quote I’ve borrowed on my blog ) Maggot, Puerile Pish ……..
Over here in England we are watching with fascination as a Free State tries to decide if they have had enough of being free.
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
I have a very simple theory, which has meant, despite me being a speccy, smartyarse cunt of the highest order, I have never been beaten up..
It’s this: If I don’t have an opinion, or am not knowledgeabl;e enough to argue about a particular subject, I just stay away from the argument. That is called erring on the side of safety.
I have read up as much of the treaty as I could, and have the added precedental awareness that anything Sinn Fucking Fein are against is generally good for the rest of us (Baseball bats across the head,m bullets in the knees, steealing from banks, killing gardai etc)
So I will be voting yes, and if I hear one more fucking asshole who whines about not being informed….
Every day, we allow politicians to legislate for us, that’s their jobs, the only reason we have referndum after referndum is because some frosty-lensed beardie decided that he would test the constitution, and for all intents and purposes, fair play to him.
But, if you think you should have the power to pass laws or amend the constituion, then it’s up to you to read up on it you “I want it both ways” bastards.
If you don’t read up on it, you shouldn’t vote, but then it’s typical of the fucking Pop Idol / Text Voting / I’ll ring Joe Duffy” generation to think that everything they think no matter how ill-informed should be heard and acted upon.
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:33 pm
referendum, man my keyboard is sticky, too much porn, or jam, but probably porn
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
I am not going into the rest of my typo’s, It would take forever. I have now officially taken SAm’s crown as worst. typer. ever
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:42 pm
Politics, passion, and jam (or jiz?) impede precision typing.
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:51 pm
I wonder if the voting is as dodgy as in these phone-ins ? It won’t be long before the cunts decid that voting has to be done by a pound/Euro a minute phone line.
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:53 pm
maggot I agree, we’ll tune in tomorrow night and discover that the result of the treaty is…. Croatia because all of former Yugoslavia texted in for them
June 11th, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
“Dustin costs Ireland victory in Lisbon ?”
Kevin Myers speaks out. ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
June 11th, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
If we reject the treaty, the ordinary man on the street european will stand with us and thank us because we need a much better one which lets all the different voices and opinions in Europe be heard. Most people want a safe comfortable place to live, good quality education, good quality affordable healthcare and good prospects in life. These are the things which unite everyone around the world, not just the EU. What makes us different is our various cultures and traditions and they in turn make our outward attitude to others different. That is healthy, diverse and reduces the chances of one wrong policy for all in favour of some wrong and some right. That’s why a single European foreign policy will not work and is not wanted.
A collection of different cultures and traditions, united in solidarity for our fellow man on the street is what Europe is supposed to be about. Let’s keep it like that.
Vote Nah.
June 11th, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
Well said Holemaster, although yo are not forgiven for perving over Thatcher
June 11th, 2008 @ 11:58 pm
Not a fan of T.B.M, PP ?
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:12 am
As I have said before, the day she dies I will return to the UK and piss on her grave
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:13 am
Loving this thread, it’s a perfect answer to all the politicing over Lisbon. Is this campaign the worst ever, or what? There’s so much to piss people off, the unemployment rate, the lies over civil partnership, Harney’s wreckage that is the health service, and the list goes on. Listening to the radio in the car the other day, an RTE reporter was coverin farmers’ attitudes at the Caaarloow mart; many farmers were scathing, even feral, about EU commissioner Mandy and how the Sugar factory closure had destroyed lives. Then there’s Bertie’s second life as a professional pimp for a charity on radio, worthy as the cause may be it’s a bit much seeing Bertie do fundraising, like putting Pol Pot in charge of human rights. I’m angry and totally disgusted by the “Red scare” tactics by the Yes Parties, and they’re getting a big fucking NO from me tomorrow… there’s democracy for you, you biffo and the rest of you Fianna Glas sheep. Let’s see how fecking arrogant you lot are tommorrow night! Perhaps we can then find out where has all the money gone…
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:14 am
Thatcher, hmmm, ooohhh yeah.
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:22 am
I won’t be upset at a No vote tomorrow, because it will be the will of the people (even if both sides have people who don’t understand the treaty voting) and as a democrat, I accept the will of the majority. I’ll still vote yes, and I would agree with the Europe / World outlined by Holemaster, I just don’t think the treaty jeopardises that, but that is what makes arguments interesting.
However, this “maybe we will find out where Bertie’s money came from” bollocks. I actually don’t have a lot of time for Bertie Ahern, and I suspect that he was funded in a most distasteful, unethical and legally suspect way. But as I blogged before, if we look back that far we had Fine Gael’s shining star Lowry being funded by Ben Dunne, the leadership of the labour party were former Workers’ Party people who were funded by printing their own fucking money, and we had Sinn Fein who were funded by the people who shoot detectives in cold blood in Adare, in addition to blackmail, money-laundering and drugs. This is to say nothing of bombings etc.
So get off the fucking high horse, it’s like these tribunal fetishists get the fucking horn every time a payment is mentioned. There is no single bad guy in Ireland during that period, they were all for the most part feathering their nests, and yes that’s terrible, but it has fuck all to do with The Lisbon Treaty
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:26 am
There is one simple, and utterly compelling reason for voting yes tomorrow (today):
Sinn Fein want you to vote no.
Given that you own, or sit near a computer with an internet connection, it is unlikely that you have ever even met someone from Sinn Fein.
June 12th, 2008 @ 1:38 am
SF ( by appointment to HM) are fairly irrelevant these days in NI – they have been house trained. Are they in any way relevant in the Republic ?
June 12th, 2008 @ 8:26 am
no, except when used by people who know nothing as a protest vote
June 12th, 2008 @ 8:32 am
To not vote NO because of Sinn Féin’s involvement is just as stupid as not voting YES because of Fianna Fáil.
Given that you own, or sit near a computer with an internet connection, it is unlikely that you have ever even met someone from Sinn Fein.
-Funnily enough, I’ve met a few Shinners over the last few years, having never known any before, and it was all because I was repairing their computers.
June 12th, 2008 @ 8:34 am
Why, MB, what do they do to their computers?
Do they baseball bat them if they don’t behave?
June 12th, 2008 @ 8:49 am
Rob, you’re a fucking eejit. Michael Lowry was pretty promptly kicked out of FG when his misdeeds were discovered. He was never invited back into the party either, unlike hhmmmm say Beverly Cooper Flynn perhaps?????
Get your fucking facts in order and don’t distort the truth to suit your own agenda…… you cunt.
June 12th, 2008 @ 9:01 am
“In pubs across the land you could hear:
“Im definitly not voting FF in,no way s’ry Bob””
Unfortunately that’s where most of them stayed during polling!
While I am very much Pro-Europe, for me its a ‘No’, purely for the fact the after the Nice rejection Europe’s governments are trying to sneak the same treaty through without a popular vote. I feel we owe it to the people of the rest of Europe to vote ‘NO’.
And as for some of the European politicians saying that a NO vote would have dire consequences for Ireland, who do they think they’re dealing with? The last thing you say to an Irishman is ‘Do that and there’ll be trouble’.
June 12th, 2008 @ 9:14 am
Just on the Sinn Fein thing…
I couldn’t give a bollox about them and don’t support them but don’t make the mistake of bandwagon jumping because it’s the thing to do. Sinn Fein are highly organised and are making big inroads in working class estates and also with new immigrants who are not familiar with their background. They are re-grouping and will be a force to reckon with in the future.
To make the usual remarks about knee capping and bank robberies these days is naive and uninformed and suits them down to the ground. It gives them something to hide behind, something to distract everyone.
And to vote Yes because Sinn Fein are in the No camp is very silly indeed. That is parochial and very retarded thinking.
June 12th, 2008 @ 10:01 am
Well said HM. You’re absolutely spot on with the Sinn Fein thing too. Their stormtroopers are no longer knee capping and beating, they’re working very hard in housing estates that other politicians will not even venture into, and they will get many people that wouldn’t have bothered to vote before out to vote for them. It’s scary!
June 12th, 2008 @ 12:03 pm
I was going to vote yes but Giscard D’Estaing let it slip that they’re trying to put one over on us – it’s a Euro constitution by the back door (Google it).
Also all those posters I see around usually with some fat smug Fianna Failers face on it – “Good for Europe – Good for Ireland” – no I think they should read “Good for Europe – Good for me getting a cushy job in Brussels at your expense when my political career is washed up in this country”