I’m tired of hearing shite from people who commit serious crimes.
Actually, I should correct that. I’m tired of hearing shite from their defence teams. How often have you turned on the radio and heard:
“Counsel for the defence accepted their client had done wrong but urged the court to take into account the background in which Mr X grew up. His father was an abusive alcoholic while his mother was a heroin addict who was regularly beaten by his father. When turning to his uncle for guidance Mr X was abused up the arse and when he told the local priest he forced him to take part in orgies with oil and other assorted toys. He then spiralled into a life of addiction and alcoholism, marrying a glue sniffing mother of four. He then abused and beat those children only because he didn’t know any better himself before spending some time in prison for battering an 81 year old pensioner in her own home so he could steal the €17 she had left of her pension so he could score drugs.
Mr X expresses deep shame and remorse at his actions but feels he has been a victim of society.”
Well fuck you and fuck you again just after you’ve been fucked. And the fucking will be done by an elephant’s cock, you poxy, despicable cunts. And that’s the just the defence counsels.
We have become a nations of excusers and enablers. When people behave badly we are dealt a litany of excuses about how tough a person’s life has been, how they suffered this or that (whether it’s true or not and I suspect a lot of the time it isn’t), how they battled this addiction or that, and the reality is that even if those things were the truth it doesn’t alter the fact that this person behaved like an utter cunt.
ZZzZzzzzz. We’ve heard it all before. Fuck excuses, fuck reasons, even the most poorly educated, junkie prick in town knows that beating/robbing/killing/stabbing etc is wrong. I don’t give a fuck about your sob stories, your namby-pamby social worker bollocks or anything else. I just want you dealt with and off the fucking streets.
I don’t give a fiddler’s what your life was like. If it was bad then you aren’t alone. There are plenty of people who suffer bad lives and childhoods who don’t behave like cunts. There are those who come from privileged families and from wealth who behave like scum.
There’s a whole system in place to enable people who commit crime to abdicate themselves from responsibility. And anyone who refuses to take responsibility for their actions is not somebody you can rehabilitate.
What’s the answer? Death camps? I don’t fucking know. I just know it annoys me.
How else will the legal profession survive? Not forgetting to mention of course the instant flood of unemployed, beardy social workers who are no longer responsible for re-introducing murderers, rapists and kiddie fiddlers back into society.
You haven’t really thought this through Twenty – cause and effect…
Why Death camps? Could they not be Living in Hell camps or is that too long and not catchy enough? Overheads and running costs would be an issue also, although you could always have them fight to survive each day – true reality tv – and ching ching, watch that ad money pay for itself in no time!!
I’m sure I missed my vocation, not quite sure but i will figure it out just in time to realise that my entire life has been wasted.
Has everyone else taken today off to celebrate West Brit Day?
I only know that cos it’s someone’s birthday and I always send the fucker a card reminding him of his true nature …
Living hell camps, I like the sound of those all right.
Twenty- Punishment equal to the crime. How about we introduce the US style three strikes and you’re in prison for 25 years rule. I heard an interview on the wireless on the way home lasy night with the CEO of the people that look after tourists who are the victimes of crime. She spoke about a 17 year old Italian lad who was beaten by a guy and was made a quadraplegic. The perpetrator got 8 and a half years and is now out roaming the streets looking for his next victim while the Italian lad is broke and is being cared for by his 65 year old mother. That is not justice. So if someone beats someone badly enough to cripple them they should get a life sentence, like the poor bugger they have crippled.
Sorry for the spelling mistakes…
Anto – a wireless? Does that mean you have no mickey?
Some humane suggestions
1) Turn them into pet food
2) Deport them to a bigger shit-hole
3) Use them for science
4) Set up a “Battle Royale” scenario on an island so their victims get the satisfaction of seeing them have a rough time and the public gets some decent entertainment
5) make them sex slaves -Adult viewing only.
Sorry, couldn’t resist that. I remember that case with the Italian, it happened out in one of the parks in Fairview. That was the scummiest case I ever read. Is that miscreant scumbag already out?
Pet Food – would be interesting the reaction of FiFi in Foxrock to eating Scobe
A bigger shit hole? Limerick is full already.
Science? We know what they are and now we should concentrate on removing them.
I like Battle Royale – but with death being the only way to get eliminated.
No sex slavery – they are scumbags – let’s reduce reproduction opportunities.
Ubollix -obviously not a child of the 60′s. I like Maggot’s idea of deporting them to a bigger shithole nearly as much as I liked Riise’s 95th minute equaliser last night. Where’s Peadar when you want to slag him!!
…and the Fairview scumbag got out three weeks ago…
It’ll be nearly as enjoyable as Messi’s hat-trick tonight.
…and the Fairview scumbag got out three weeks ago…
What was that one again? Did he blind someone or paralyse them?
Anto, nope – barely made the 70′s. I still prefer the Battle Royale – so many possibilities.
Twenty, that was the sumbag who attacked some Italian student in a park in Fairview one evening, used his head as a football, left him as a vegetable and is now fucking free to walk the streets again. Obviously he is fully contrite and reformed having served his time as a model prisoner and probably got a few months off for good behaviour.
He hit the guy over the head with a full bottle of lager and left him a quadruplegic. The scumbag – his name is James Osbourne – was 29 at the time so didn’t even have the excuse of being young. He got 8-and-half years and had the balls to appeal the severity of his sentence, presumably using solicitors paid for by you and me.
Cheers, fellas. Remember that now.
Hopefully he’ll get a good glassing in the spine.
Eye for an eye – get Marco Matterazzi to kick him up and down the length of Fairview park? And then send him in as Entrant No. 1 for the Inaugural Living Hell Battle Royale
What I love is the “My client had a hard life, please take this into account when considering the offence…….but please forget that we used this excuse on his previous other 28 offences (committed while on bail of course)
If someone has committed in the region of 25/30 crimes, then I have to agree with the notion that we should just shoot the cunt, I mean I am all for rehabilitation, but at some point you have to accept that if it walks like a cunt, dresses likes a cunt and commits crime like a cunt; it’s a cunt.
I have used that cunt is a cunt is a cunt dissertation myself. It would appear that my views are quite weak compared to those I work with who believe that death is reasonable.
The problem is that the whole trial system is a game played to rules carefully established by years of precedent. The defence must talk about the defendant’s remorse/therapy/good character/broken home, because that’s the way trials have always worked. If the defence counsel said “this guy isn’t sorry at all, judge, he’s the biggest shithead Free Legal Aid ever stuck me with, do your worst” then the guy would get off on appeal.
Bring in the taliban – they’ll sort us all out – justice will be swift…….
Science? We know what they are and now we should concentrate on removing them.
I was thinking more along the lines of using them as organ donors or for experimentation – ” I have a new dandylion killer, let’s find out how poisonous it is by feeding large amounts of it to joyriders ”
As for the sex slave business – pregnancy would not be possible with what I have in mind
Prisoner 1234567 – you now belong to Sir Elton.
Prisoner 2345678 – Lindsay Lohan will show you her muff
Hard luck 3456789 – you got Harney.
Did anyone else read the link maggot sent us yesterday? It got ignored coz we were all busy talking about childbirth, but it concerned an 18-year-old who got 4 years for killing 2 men while drunk-driving. His defence barrister told the court he was “pre-occupied by the consequences of his reckless actions”, but on his Beno site he wrote “I’ll be back & I’m not changing”. Proves everything we’ve been saying.
Mind you Tinman – he killed someone from Dromintee – when he gets out there is every chance his problems are just starting.
That’s true maggot, he’ll find it very hard to drive without kneecaps…
BTW maggot, is prisoner 2345678 just in for TV licence offences or something, coz there are worse ways of spending the day than having ANY girl show you her muff
Here’s another theory;
Say the defence submission is correct, the broken home, the abusive childhood, the lack of “facilities” all contributed to the defendant’s predisposition to commit crime…
Then we can’t rehabilitate him right? He can’t help being a criminal…
Therefore we owe it to society to keep this person off the streets, as they are an unassuming danger to themselves and others, and no amount of sympathy / beard scratching will help.
2345678 is in for answering back to a traffic warden – anything to do with la Lohan is harsh.
Death camps / Battle Royale sound like a great idea. So does something like The Running Man where knackers are hunted for sport by frenzied gun-nuts.
I think hard labour should be introduced. Scumbags like that owe society, not the other way around.
Anyone see that boy racer asshole from the north that crashed into and killed 2 guys, showed remorse in court, got a lighter sentence and then posted on his bebo page about how he wasn’t going to change his ways after he got released? Not exactly related to the topic, but scores just as high on the blood-boil-o-meter
I seriously hope rape and shanking are a daily occurrence for that wretched subhuman.
All this serious punishment malarkey might be acceptable if it was’nt just one set of rules for poor people and another for wealthy people. See those Annabel boys get off scott free because they can afford a decent defense. If they were inner city boys that trial would have been over in 1/2 days with their court appointed defenses crumbling immediately and only offering shallow excuses for it happening. The Gardai are not to be trusted either – remember donegal, with levels of policing and justice like this we cannot reasonably send anyone to death camps or to prison where Mary Harney sits on their face for 30 minutes a day. We’d have amnesty and bono after us…
That would give us an excure to lock up bono, only allowing him out to release albums and tour.
The only way we’ll ever reduce crime is by putting real deterrents in place. We need a government with a backbone. Unfortunately we haven’t got one, and the prospects of getting one are very slim.
Anto mentions a “3 strikes and you’re in for 25 years” US ruling, and to my mind that sounds fair. Only I’d reduce it to 2 strikes, and increase it to life.
It’s weird that we have a huge and expensive judicial system that can send tv licence dodgers to jail and release violent scum early.
If you gave me 15 minutes talking to any crim before the courts I could pretty much tell you easily enough if they have any hope or if we should just throw the key away.
It’s not difficult to identify incorrigible scummers from the rest.
MB -Sadly life in Ireland is about 10 years, whereas in the USA 25 years means 25 years. No time off for being good or not phoning the Joe Duffy show..
Twenty, if you could get the politicians to see all that, I’d be well impressed.
I’m sick of how people’s “fantastic and amazing life where they helped the aged, fed babies and did Really Good Things ™”, before they beat the shit out of/raped/murdered someone, gets “taken into account”.
Fuck off.
I can understand for a first offence for something like stealing, but when it comes to larger offences, you can fuck right off.
Same with the “I’ve had a terrible life, please don’t send me to jail for doing something equally terrible, I didn’t mean it, honestly, I just wanted the money so I could buy neon lights for my skanger car”. Fuck off.
If we are going to take things into account to mitigate against a long sentence, we should also consider factors which might make the potential sentence longer;
For example, answering yes to any more than 2 of the following should result in sterilisation and possibly death;
Do you wear a baseball cap indoors or while driving
Do you drive a honda civic (pre 2003)
Do you have the name of your speakers / stereo on the rear window of your car
Do you own, or wear a sovereign ring
Do you say “Sound” or “Boss” or “Man” or “Buzz” a lot
Do you spent your welfare on stolen trainers
Does your wardrobe consist of little else but round necked hilfiger jumpers
Send em to Afghanistan without training. At worst, they’ll be killed right away. At best, they’ll be captured, tortured and then killed.
Also:
Do you own more tracksuits than running medals
Do you have any aunts or uncles younger than you
Have you ever worn a Celtic shirt to either a wedding or a funeral
Do you believe that the word “fuckin’” can be used in the middle of other words, as in “leave me a-fuckin-alone”
Shit, messed that up, should read “leave me a-fuckin-lone”
If you ever, in seriousness, used the phrase “you’re wrecking me buzz”.
do you have little black dots on your knuckles…
Shit Tinman – does that mean I can’t use my all time favourie “Unbefuckinglievable” any more. That would be fuckin fucked and would completely “Wreck me buzz”
Well, you have to have more than 2 in total Dessie plus you have to have committed a crime as well.
Its like MB and others have said, there’s no deterrent. The problem is when these scumbags are honing there criminal/scumbag skills (between 14 and 17) they seem to be immune from any kind of punishment and they know it. When they eventually go to jail after 3 or 4 previous offences its really 30 – 40 previous offences. But those committed when a teenager don’t seem to count.
I’ve said it before – Lock them up regardless of age. Sure, give them a second chance if the crime isn’t very serious, maybe even a third chance. But not 20 – 30 chances. Lock them up even if there 14
Unfortunately there are too many do-gooders in Ireland for the government to go down that road.
So we’re all fucked
I think answering yes to more than two of those, constitutes a crime…
do you have little black dots on your knuckles…
I always thought that that was to indicate that you’ve already been inside. Am I wrong?
What’s going on here… Left 2 comments already and not a sign of them…
You’re right MB – growing up in Coolock they were proudly displayed and known as ‘Borstal Dots’
Ubollix -obviously not a child of the 60’s. I like Maggot’s idea of deporting them to a bigger shithole nearly as much as I liked Riise’s 95th minute equaliser last night. Where’s Peadar when you want to slag him!!
Enjoy it while you can Anto. From what I saw last night Liverpool have nothing to fear. They’ll win the second leg comfortably.
Do the following constitute crime and would they count towards your 3 strikes, TV licence Evasion, Illegal downloads of music/film, jaywalking, littering, smoking in a workplace, underage drinking, tax evasion, owning a starview box – If so I should be covered in borstal dots and doig 125 to 150 years hard service on mary harneys minge
I’d be content with an eye for an eye type justice.
If they don’t have the cash they get sent to a workhouse.
Prison doesn’t help or punish anyone enough.
good post twenty..what always amuses me is when these little fuckers appear in court they always have a suit on..however the dopey judges seem to be easily fooled by this gesture..wise up you wigwearing out-of-date morons..if just one judge had the balls to throw one little scumbag into prison for life..and make it very public..it might scare the ballox out of the rest of these little thugs roaming our strrets and turning dublin into a no-go area..
Following the rules outlined by Rob above we could reduce the free population of Liverpool by 98%.
great thing about having a lot of long nasty wars in the last century is that there are still a lot of japanese, germans, russians, vietnamese, cambodians and koreans around who’d be really good at running concentration camps, sorry, correctional institutes for us. and why just stop at locking up the scumbags – if their parents are to fault for their behaviour, bang them up too.
To add to earlier list:
If you state that reading is for poofs or posh people and you get everything you need from the Sun or Star.
even as a Liverpool fan, I have to acknowledge that what pish says is essentially true…
Here it is. A solution. Granted there are some minor holes in this idea but tough shit, I’m on my lunch break.
People convicted of crimes should be physically beaten by the victims of similar crimes.
The victims can go to the prison and kick the shit out of the prisoner of their choice for a suitable length of time, dependant on the crime.
Imagine the mass release of frustation that would take place throughout the country, as victims of crimes finally get some justice for their hardships, the country would soon be in an euphoric state, which coupled with a boost in moral would benefit the economy and the world would be a better place once again.
And people would stop robbing cars because no one wants to be belted in the face by some cider guzzling man mountain from North Cork.
That is all.
PP is wanker
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You look in the dustbin for something to eat
you find a dead rat and you think its a treat
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You shit on the carpet, you piss in the bath
You finger your Grandmas for a laugh
In your liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You speak in accents unpronouncable
Wear pink tracksuits and have curly hair
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
Your mums on the game, your fathers in the nick
You cant get a job cause you’re too fucking thick.
In your Liverpool slums
Not realy “our” liverpool slums – the government own them and just let us live there for free.
Bring back public flogging, I say. A whipping post in every town and village.
Dessiegee (#51), depends on the music/films.
PS – you realise that there are two ways to pronounce your name?
Unfortunately I have the not good one in my head.
PS – you realise that there are two ways to pronounce your name?
Well Dessiegee is Short for Dessie Geebag – So I’m assuming you have the right one
I think that I have stumbled into a brainstorming session for the Howard O’Stern show..
OK! I would run with regular televised public humiliation… Stocks, pillory etc followed by publicly performed sterilisation (no anaesthetic).. much cheaper than life imprisonment and also loses that slightly worrying redneck, unionist stylee vengance, retribution, brimstone treatment.
I must admit – and I’m being serious here – I’d be in favour of bringing back the Stocks – a few weeks of being jeered at, pelted with rotten fruit, pissed on by passing drunks and preached at by religious maniacs would put some manners on juvenile cunts who think they are clever.
re death camps – the hospitals are already working at full capacity.
slightly worrying redneck, unionist stylee vengance,
Ya what ya cunt ?
HONEY NUTS
Cover their balls in honey, leave them out tied to a tree in a field.
THE HOLE IN ONE
Bury a tenner up their arse holes and tie them to a tree in Cavan.
THE DIE-SON
Shove a vacuum cleaner into their mouths and see how long they can counteract having the air sucked out of the lungs.
All great ideas!
People who constantly reoffend are a problem but does this not reflect again the lack of government spending on education and necessary socail services in areas most affected by these cunts?
we used to have a youth centre in our toen growing up.Not now. Now teenagers are coke addicts, a bunch of wired jaws roaming the streets.