Is Bertie under pressure?
Reading the papers this morning and they all report the Taoiseach is ‘under pressure’ to explain his personal finances which become less and less believable as each day goes by. But is he?
Do statements like ‘What I am saying is the public disquiet has to be dispelled, and that is a matter for the Taoiseach’ and some weak half-hearted call for a ‘clarifying statement’ from John ‘I love being in government with all its perks so I don’t really want to say anything that might damage all the excellent fun I’m having at the moment’ Gormless really put him under pressure?
As per usual the man himself is refusing to comment. Not that we should be surprised by his arrogance and his unwillingness to be accountable to the people who he represents. The Fianna Fail party is following the same line, circle the wagons, obfuscate and dissimulate, do what they’ve always done and allow those most corrupt to shirk their personal responsibility. The ‘deny everything’ culture fostered under CJH.
What would really put the Taoiseach under pressure is somebody who would say ‘In normal countries even local councillors fall on their sword at the slightest whiff on financial undoing. You’re the head of the country and not only can you not explain all the money that’s passed through your accounts, you won’t explain it, like you’re somehow above the law.’
If this were to happen in another country I could imagine somebody saying to that politician ‘You cheat! You fucking crook! You are an absolute bandit. Where did all these foreign currency transactions come from? You can’t possibly expect us to believe that you need financial help from your friends when you had considerable savings, in cash, in your own safe. How is it possible that you saved that much money anyway? Surely that, given your responsibilities to your family and general expenses, would have been impossible on your salary at that time.
Do you really expect us to believe that a bank account which has your first initial and the first initial of one of your closest henchman is actually for building work? Are we expected to swallow stories about how your girlfriend was given considerable amounts of cash to buy a house and you didn’t know a thing about it? Why do you berate people for bringing your family into it when you’re the one who involved them to begin with? Are we expected to believe that the Minister for Finance didn’t have a bank account and operated solely in cash? What kind of a man uses his daughters bank accounts to make dodgy transactions? What kind of a man allows lowly paid underlings to take the stand during legal proceedings and, after their misguided loyalty to you has been exposed for little more than a web of lies, then refuses to explain any of it to the country that he has been elected to lead?
You are a crook. You are a thieving, lying, cheating little cunt. If you had even the slightest shred of dignity or self-respect you’d resign but you don’t. The more you talk about your finances the more obvious it is that there’s a whole lot of stuff you don’t want people to know about and that you can’t possibly explain. That’s why you keep quiet, that’s why you and your lawyers attempt to muddy the waters every time you appear before the committee. You are a hollow man, a contemptible, despicable fabricator. Quite frankly how you’re avoiding criminal charges is beyond me. Go. Now. Liar. Liar. Liar’.
So that is how I’d imagine they’d deal with it in another country given a similar set of circumstances. Here we have wishy-washy ‘Oh, well the Taoiseach has, you know, do …erm… do …er … something. You know. Don’t ask me what. How would I know?’ bollocks.
Pressure. He’s not feeling a bit of it. The cunt.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:59 am
he said he had no bank account,nuff said,every fucker has a bank account,even people who have no money have a bank account,so, sorry Bertie,but for me,all your credibility went out the door when you came out with that doozie of a lie.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:11 am
I’m sure Peadar will be here later on to explain everything.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:20 am
if you had a choice between Bertie, The chuckle brothers (Martin McGuiness & Ian Paisley) and Tony Blair who would you prefer running your country. the book is superb by the way……….
March 28th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Couldn’t agree more.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:30 am
All his little cohorts are gathering around him to protect him, even Mr Gormless who “demanded” a statement last night had to do a turnaround. Why is everyone protecting him? I may be wrong but I think that they are afraid more comes out about their own shady scams. One cunt on Newstalk this morning was bemoaning that all these enquiries were interfering with government and after all it was twenty years ago so why don’t we just get on with it.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:32 am
As much as I hate the bigotted little cunt, at least Paisley Jnr stepped down because of his involvement in property Development.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:35 am
We all know what the general concensus on Paisley is this side of the border, but at least the man had the decency to step down when he did. -And it wasn’t even over something he did himself.
We, on the other hand, have a different class of cunt in our government. Propped up by a bunch of spineless fucking wankers, who have lost all credibility through their inaction.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Berties probably hoping Mary Harney says a little more on the matter – she was one of the main reasons that CJH didn’t have to answer for this in court. (http://www.rte.ie/news/2000/0627/haughey.html)
March 28th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Good post.
But what I like best is this:
You cheat! You fucking crook! You are an absolute bandit.
because it sounds just like a line out of a Roald Dahl Story.
Bertie and the Magic Finger, or similar.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Bertie and the giant impeachment?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Ahhh, nice one!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:04 am
I’m just hoping that the eventual outcome of all this will be the decline of the Fianna Fáil party. I’ll accept that there may be one or two decent individuals in the party, but the fact that the upper echelons are populated by crooks means that the rest of them are in on it, or too stupid to see it.
In all my 29 years of being eligible to vote, I have NEVER given any one of them a preference. (I admit I did once vote for Harney, but I was swayed by the fact that she’d just left the party, and she was the only female candidate in my constituency.) Perhaps with the influx of Polish builders, the Fianna Fáil core supporters will be diminished. I certainly hope so.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Bertie and the giant impeachment
Priceless!
The Fianna Fail party is following the same line, circle the wagons, obfuscate and dissimulate, do what they’ve always done and allow those most corrupt to shirk their personal responsibility. The ‘deny everything’ culture fostered under CJH.
I think there’s a bit more to it than that twenty. The people of the Republic were conditioned to accept without questioning by the two pillars of the state – Church and FF. It goes further back than CJH – De Valera and his Irish Press shenanigans and the arrogance of the proclamation that the people do not have the right to be wrong.
It’s taking time but slowly and surely the Irish People are starting to believe that authority comes from the bottom up.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:10 am
she was the only female candidate in my constituency.
Sexist!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:13 am
MB you forgot the first book
Charlie(Haughey) and the Dirty Money Factory
March 28th, 2008 at 10:14 am
But maggot, I was young and horny, just like you are now. And this was in the days before they put pictures on the voting form.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Ah, in that case your action was laudable rather than reprehensible!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Bit late for a valentine isn’t it, Twenty?
March 28th, 2008 at 10:36 am
If one politician were to stand up and publicly point the finger squarely at the cunt and call him the cheating, lying little shit he is, that politician’s public profile would skyrocket. Sure that’s all politicians care about. Personal gain. You’d think they’d put 2+2 together and do the right thing, even if it is for less than ideal reasons.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:40 am
unfortunately most people in this country couldn’t give a fuck.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Whats happening now is that the Greens are koping on that if they’re going down at the next election so are FF. Bertie represents everything thats wrong with this society – ah sure fair play to him if he can get away with it, sure they’re all it. When was the last time your supervisor/manager was honest with you? It’s indemic in this society, once you get a bit of power you become something different. Ah sure the little people don’t need to know, sure they haven’t put up the price of a pint so they’re allright.
Brainwashing is alive and well in this society. The fact that Charlie and Bertie are constantly referred to on a first name basis tricks most into thinking they’re decent ordinairy men who got to the top cos they deserve it. There vast wealth accumalted thru street smarts and making a joke of the “tax man” Of course this stupid fkn march in town 2moro on the health service will solve all of this.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:49 am
The reason they don’t give a fuck, is because who’s to say anyone else is any better? If the rest of the government can’t say anything, why is it? Do they have things to hide too? If so, what the FUCK has been going on? We need an entire batch of a new government, because they all seem to be crooked.
How can we get that, without having the country fall to pieces first?
March 28th, 2008 at 10:53 am
He had no bank account from 87 to 94, but once someone pointed out to him that they’re actually a good thing, he went for the idea big time and opened 23 of them within six months…
… I’d love to try & sell him timeshare
March 28th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I think all people want is some accountability, so if you get caught with your fingers in the till you gracefully fuck off. If you fuck up the Health Service and people start dying, then gracefully fuck off. You don’t need a revolution or anarchy to do that. All it will take is enough public pressure on each TD. It’s your fucking country fight for it!!!
March 28th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Or send all of twenty’s door salesmen to him…
March 28th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Can we clear up one myth
“You can’t possibly expect us to believe that you need financial help from your friends when you had considerable savings, in cash, in your own safe.”
THEY WEREN’T HIS FRIENDS!!! One even admitted as much to the tribunal.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Whilst I agree with what you’re saying to an extent I think you are being a little harsh. It doesn’t matter a fuck who you put up there as Taiseach from now on they will be scrutinised beyond belief(and rightly so) and you will find some “financial irregularities”. In fact I’d go as far as to say that if 99% of the population were put under the same scrutiny you’d find we are a bunch of crooks and liars to differing degrees.
If the alternative is that complete fucking dullard, Enda Kenny, who’s strategy seems to have more to do with mudslinging and backbiting than actually concentrating on his own party’s policies, well I’ll happily stick with Bertie. I honestly could not give a fuck who he took bungs off or for what. This country is as prosperous as it’s ever been and Bertie has to take a lot of the credit for this.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:27 am
I’m sure Peadar will be here later on to explain everything.
Eh, I don’t think so!
I didn’t vote for Bertie I voted for my local FF TDs because they were better than anything else on offer.
But Bertie did and usually does get a large vote in his area. Why?
Ye, I know the opinion of twenty and a few of the commenters is that half the voting public are complete thickos.
But that’s a really up your own arse opinion to hold, don’t ya think?
March 28th, 2008 at 11:29 am
We need an entire batch of a new government, because they all seem to be crooked.
How can we get that, without having the country fall to pieces first?
Easter 2016, a proper revolution ?
March 28th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Peadar, come suckle on my teath
March 28th, 2008 at 11:33 am
There’ll be a revolution in 2016 alright, but it’ll be because there’s no petrol left.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:36 am
This country is as prosperous as it’s ever been
Some people in it certainly, but seems to be that it has passed by a lot of people.
Is the country thriving or is it sick ?
Saying the country is prosperous is like saying that Russia is doing well because there a few mega-rich cunts. I might slag De Valera off, but some of his ideas about materialism were fair enough.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
“In fact I’d go as far as to say that if 99% of the population were put under the same scrutiny you’d find we are a bunch of crooks and liars to differing degrees.”
perhaps a lot of people are guilty of minor infractions, but that’s one thing, wheras taking bribes for thousands of pounds when you’re holding a government office is a different thing.
And it’s true Enda is a dullard but that’s probably a good thing for a politician, Hitler was probably the most interesting politician ever, he wasn’t exactly very good for the world though.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
But Bertie did and usually does get a large vote in his area. Why?
Westlife usually sell a large number of CDs. Does that mean they’re really good, and the people who buy their CDs aren’t eejits?
Bertie is in power for the same reason Bush was re-elected. Thick people will vote for a leader who appears to be like themselves, someone they can relate to. Morons don’t want some “clever cunt” running the show.
Bertie’s in power, so >50% of the population are morons. Simple answer, and not at all up my arse (ok, maybe halfway up)
March 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
His problem is he always claimed to be an ordinary Joe who just wanted to cheer on the Dubs of a Sunda’, have a bag of chips on the way home and then enjoy his pint in Fagans.
He said he was the only socialist in the Dáil & that he had no interest in money. Maybe that’s because he has enoungh hidden away.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Enoungh, obviously, is more than enough
March 28th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Good “get-out” there tinman!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
by the way i don’t think all FF voters are stupid cunts.
I think in some cases the local FF td may be the best option, but the rest of the time the voter is either stupid or a souless cunt.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
But most stupid cunts are builders, and most builders are Fianna Fáil supporters,….so….
March 28th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
There is not enough use of the word “dullard”.. I would like to thank Morgor for this as I attempt to crowbar it into my meeting at 2.30. I may get sacked but it will be well worth it for calling someone a dullard.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
The man is a saint!
Himself and his party have supported my business for many years and show no signs of letting me down.
Always pay their bills in cash and never ask for a receipt!
Anyone for the last few plastic bags?
March 28th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Nothing to say on this,I think Kilkennys own Captain Moonlight says it all here:
Regardez!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_rI_khCo4
March 28th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
It’s been posted here before but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKztnNY1q2U
If he wants to be the honest man, than he should act like an honest man. He doesn’t so he should hold the little honour he has left to himself and resign.
And Twenty, there are plenty of countries in Africa where you do get away with what Bertie does.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
PP gotta give the credit to Johnny5 for dullard, the sycophantic catamite.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Daniel, and Italy is way more corrupt than Ireland.
not to mention Russia….
March 28th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Add Argentina to the list. At least the people come out and protest at corruption and whatever is pissing them off here. Ireland just bends over and takes it in the arse!
March 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
:-)
I have always voted FF and will continue to do so until I feel that the alternatives will be any better. At the moment, I don’t.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
PP – re entertainment value of the word ‘dullard’ – I suggested to a friend that my daughter had a cross to bear being bright and sensitive – not a happy combo. Perhaps happy and stupid makes for an easier, cheerier life. My friend laughed and agreed, and said ‘you’re right, maybe we should all be hoping to raise insensitive dullards’.
Best phrase ever!
March 28th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I always thought that a dullard was someone who was boring rather than someone who was stupid.
Who’s the dullard now?!!!
March 28th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Peadar, come suckle on my teath
I’ll be right there
March 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
FF should all F Off….
March 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Shoot them all and install a junta of 30-somethings such as myself. We fancy a feed at thr trough too you know. Actually, why don’t we put Beret on one of those rendition flights he knows nothing about, a spell in Guantanamo might teach the cunt some humility
March 28th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
“Who’s the dullard now?!!!”
Yes you are, are you going to change your name to Morgor the Dullard?
March 28th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
no. . . . arghhh!!!
March 28th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Conscise Oxford English dictionary says
Dull: Slow of understanding, obtuse, stupid, whence ~ARD.
There you go :)
March 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
PResumably, though, going by that definition, a dullard would also be fairy boring?
March 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I was thinking of 2 from below :
dull :
1. Not sharp.
2. Boring;
3. Not shiny;
4. Not intelligent.
Did no-one notice my favourite new word from earlier? “catamite”.
bunch of ingrates.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
‘A catamite is the younger partner in a pederastic relationship between two males, which was a popular arrangement in the ancient world, especially ancient Rome.’
As in Eamonn Ryan to John Gormley… Royston Brady to Bertie (oh no that one is all off)…
except for the sex bit. probably.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
That can be Puerile’s task for next week – to use ‘catamite’ in his 2.30 Friday meeting – good luck with that …
March 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I’ll probably get slapped for it, but I’m gonna try my best to squeeze catamite and pederastic into my conversation down the boozer tonight. Thanks lads!
March 28th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Now they are completely taking the piss..Current minister for Finance’s brother on the new tax defaulters list…For fucks sake…
http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/0328/revenue.html?rss
March 28th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Try saying this Monkey: “We are obviously the catamites in a pedarastic relationship with the government, who are screwing us cross-eyed”.
I’d try it before starting your 4th drink, or God knows what you’ll come out with.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
you might try to squeeze
“like a coprophiliac in a sewer” into the conversation too.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
or just talk about boobs and football
March 28th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
or how much you enjoy beer.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
I have it all written out;
“We are the catamites in a pedarastic relationship with the government, who are sodomising us like coprophiliacs in a sewer. Up the Arse. Tits oot fer the lads!”
Sorted.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
I still have a job!!! And I got to call the geeks in network support dullards
Now fucking catamite is a tough one, leave it with me though.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
prank of the day, a colleague of mine has been driving all week (without noticing until now) with a custom made bumper sticker saying I love (heart symbol) gay porn.
March 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
hehe good work PP.
I’ve got an idea for catamite, you could try and sneak it in as though you mixed it up with catalyst.
“Ted here has really been the catamite of the project, he’s really got things moving”
March 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Bring up the Cathal O’Searchaigh issue int’ pub. You might say ‘the Nepalese youngfellas decided to become reluctant catamites after discovering a love for old, fat baldy poets with funny hats who give out bikes and ice creams and recite Pussy Cat Pussy Cat…’
March 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Thanks, Twenty, for saying what needs to be said, as usual!
Why don’t CAB go after Bertie, as they should have gone after Charvet Haughey and his obnoxious family, instead of allowing them to carry on the “dynasty” he created, with tax payers stolen money??
March 28th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Johnny says
If the alternative is that complete fucking dullard, Enda Kenny, who’s strategy seems to have more to do with mudslinging and backbiting than actually concentrating on his own party’s policies, well I’ll happily stick with Bertie. I honestly could not give a fuck who he took bungs off or for what. This country is as prosperous as it’s ever been and Bertie has to take a lot of the credit for this.
Johnny
This little man has made a complete mess of this economy ,he has played auction politics with people in this country.He has created a massive public service 80000 more in ten years,he was a little pen pushing shop steward with no idea of commercial business.Within the next 2 years you will see the effects of Berties welfare state where they will come after you ,me the taxpayer to take them out of the shite,
They will start to find more ways to stealth tax you
Raise your personal tax ,when they should be lowering it to stimulate the economy.They will regulate the shite of this country.
Bertie is a conned the people of Ireland and used them as pawns to get himself his gold plated pension,the damage he has done is unforgiveable.
The sooner we are rid of this parasitic little bollix the better.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Bertie Ahern: A true cunt among cunts.
Time for you to fuck off now please, Bertie.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Perhaps Bertie is Bald Devil…
March 28th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Johnny?
“This country is as prosperous as it’s ever been and Bertie has to take a lot of the credit for this.”
You obviously don’t get out much; a little tour will show you:
- Many thousands of holiday/second homes for sale in this country and around Europe
- Empty pubs most of the week
- Stressed employees stretched on their mortgages
- Increasing jobless figures
- The top builders in the country significantly winding down their activities (some of them close to administration)
- Thousands of city apartments which can’t be sold or let
Boom time? I don’t think so. Sub prime aside the writing has been on the wall for some time. The evidence isn’t in the news and financial markets, it’s in people not spending their money and trying to wind in their investments out of fear.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
When flickr said:
“Testimonials: interfud doesn’t have any testimonials yet.”
I think they meant “testicals”.
March 29th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Look at the positive side of it. The masses will have no jobs, no money, no future just posh squats to live in.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Excuse me m’Lord, but I’m presuming that Elpus is Spanish for The Cat. Am I right?
Therefore, I would like to take this golden opportunity to make the following statement;
Johnny5 doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but (wait for it….) The Cat, eh, might.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Excuse me m’Lord, but I’m presuming that “Elpus” is Spanish for “The Cat”. Am I Correct?
In that case, I would like to take this golden opportunity to make the following statement:
Johnny5 doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but wait for it… The Cat, eh, might!
March 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Sorry for the duplicates. My laptop is playing up something dreadful ever since I put in that Vista service pack.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
And no, I’m not running Windows95, you clever bastards!
March 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Twenty your an egotistical D4 cunt.
By the way, have sales of your shite book reached double figures yet?
March 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Fifty, you’re an onanistical deluded prick.
By the way, how many books have you written?
March 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
When Bertie makes another statement to the Dail, along the lines of, “the english tooth fairy gave me dat money” or, as he said to Vincent Brown, “It’s my money”…when he say’s this in the Dail and then wins his case in the courts starting on April 1st, he can just turn around and say “it doesn’t matter if what i say in the Dail is true or not”
so dere!
He is a fucking embarrassment
March 30th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I might hate the Church, my mother and anyone who doesn’t have the same opinion as me, but I loves me Bertie, so lay off chumleys.
By the way I’m lollygagging around today. Usually I run 27km a day and record the results in my “slog” in reality of course I’m a 27 stone couch potato, with an arse like the 7a bus.
By the way twenty, your a total cunt…and your book is a load of boolix..chumley
March 31st, 2008 at 11:34 am
Well done Twenty this is a superbly put, crystal clear insight into the attitude and behaviour of not only our political leader but also his followers, opponents and the media.
As a nation we are behind the door in exposing our sinners and you would think that we have learned our lessons from this from previous political and sexual abuse coverups.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:55 am
No surprise that this post has so many comments! but it amazes me that in a so called democratic republic that so much corruption has been swallowed meekly. It beggars belief that opposition parties cannot make a concerted effort to oust the FF regime, let alone still attend business as usual in government. Surely they could protest more effectively by refusing to work in the Dail on the grounds of corruption! Its all a load of bollox! Democracy my hairy sweaty arse!! A government elected by the people that is completely unaccountable to the people!!!!
April 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Hahahhaa, anyone seen the news from Finland?
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0401/finland.html?rss
He’s resigning for TEXT MESSAGES.
If he lived here, he’d probably be celebrated and turned into Minister for Partying/Finance or some such shite.
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