Oh, and another thing
Posted on | March 19, 2008 | 66 Comments
I’m waiting for the bleating to start about how the availability of alcohol at reasonable prices is to blame for all this. It’ll start and some cunt with pick up the baton and run with it and soon that’s all people will be able to think about.
Booze = death, murder, screwdrivers in the head. Wait for it, you just wait for it.
Of course we’d still have the same neglectful parents and lack of personal responsibility and contemptible hooligans we have now, but that doesn’t matter. At least we’re doing something. Shame it’s not the right thing.
If you want to go to, let’s say Barcelona, for a weekend you can buy alcohol pretty much everywhere. Bars, restaurants, supermarkets, ice-cream shops, street vendors, fast food joints, everywhere. And it’s fucking cheap. Go to the supermarket and walk out with 20 cans of beer for less than €10. A bottle of whiskey for €6 (it’s muck but it’s there) and if you want to go to the discount supermarkets you can get it much cheaper. They sell stuff like ‘Gorkons Gin’, which looks exactly like Gordons, but costs about €4 a bottle.
There’s more alcohol available more cheaply than here and while they have their problems, like any city, it is like a child’s playground compared to Dublin.
So here they’ll try and restrict the sale of beer so another little junta, like those cunting vintners, will be formed. We’ll get ripped off as they protect their own interests and the people will still get stabbed and beaten and robbed and murdered. And then what will do? What will we try and ban then?
Maybe only licenced tradesman can buy screwdrivers, only qualified carpet fitters can buy Stanley blades. That’d solve it.
It’ll be another sweep the mess under the carpet job and nothing will change. Alcohol is not the problem but it’s going to be a handy fucking excuse.
Cunts
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March 19th, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
Don’t have to wait – look at the Irish Times website – Joan Burton’s already on about the “explosion of outlets selling drink in the area”
March 19th, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
On a positive note, I spent all day drinking in Dublin on Monday, and was surrounded by a few people doing the same. When I walked back through the town at about 12pm there were a few pissed people but I actually felt fairly safe, yes there were a few young jackasses rolling about the ground outside Copperfaced jacks, but on the whole most people were pissed and happy.
March 19th, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
I meant 12am because obviously rolling about the ground outside Copperfaced Jacks at midday would be a bit much even for Paddies day.
March 19th, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
You are right. Excuse after excuse. I wonder what the difference between Spain and Ireland. Is it all down to cultural differences or is the judicial systems considerably different? I know a man who can tell me. I am going to ask him. You’d think the government would look at other countries for effective solutions.
One other thing, we know parents are rearing animals so what is the point in bitching about it, I mean at the end of the day when have you or any fellow commenter ever done anything about it? When have you joined protests, signed petitions, attended vigils, marched on the Dail, written letters, contributed positively to the community you live in, attended residence meetings etc? If we do fuck all ourselves, how can you expect others to do anything.
March 19th, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
As Tinman said Joan Burton is already blaming the “explosion of outlets selling drink in the area” for the murder. But considering that the murderers had just arrived back from Clonee in Co Meath I don’t understand how places selling booze in Blanchardstown can be responsible.
March 19th, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
Feral fucking parents who are third generation doleheads raising their kids on a diet of buckfast, smack, beatings and neglect are to blame.
Frankly, we’re getting to the point where a cull might be in order.
And I speak as someone who grew up in a North Belfast shithole ghetto.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Could we use Thrippos as law enforcement, replace the poncey Alsations with Thrippos, that’s the answer.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
should I be letting my six year old son play Call of Duty 4???
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
“should I be letting my six year old son play Call of Duty 4???”
Fuck no, get him manhunt
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Difference between Spain and Ireland in this case would be,The cops have guns and big sticks and you dont fuck with them because it seems if you commit a violent anti-social act you negate your civil rights and they will beat the living shit out of you and throw you in a cell and everyone goes “Well you knew the score,so it your own fault” instead of the spineless fuck heads mollycoddling these vicious cunts..
Savage beatings to all these scumbags and the message will soon filter through their braincell that “do bad thing = a batin’ ,a batin’ = bad, ergo dont do bad thing…” i might be optimistic that the message will get through, but if thats the way it went id say you’d see an upsurge in the applications for the guards…
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
In the old days in Ireland too, lads got the bata when they stepped out of line, problem is a number of factors now mean that the guards no longer have the upper hand, liberalism it would seem has a lot to do with young lads fearing nothing. like it or loathe it.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
Alcohol is not to blame.
here’s a little story from my massively boozy night on saturday – monkeyballs….I know you’re listening… WE ARE THE FALL :)
This is probably a little to personal for a website; but fuck it – it’s better out than in as they say
it ended up that about 10 of us went to a gig in The Pod. As the night wore on and we got boozier and boozier the same usual 2 people who have personal issues caused the same usual problems – getting angry about nothing; looking for trouble and saying quiet nasty uncalled for things to me and a few others. It ended up with bridges burned; not in a literal sense
These people have issues they need to resolve with their family and themselves and the booze doesn’t cause that problem; their parents were never around when they were kids and when they were, they might as well not have been.
Thank fuck I have a nice family and a decent upbringing; we’d fuck all money; my 2 “friends” have loads of money
best of luck; I’m off to the local tonight gearing up for the long w/end
there is a lot of angry young men out there who think the world owes them a living – watch out for the angry pricks
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:32 pm
Yeah Itchy, but did you notice how terribly nice all Fall fans are?
Even when you ask them “Are you Itchybollix?”
I didn’t get punched once!
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Did you see the shemale with the panama hat?
I was sitting upstairs and saw this woman dancing and thought…nice.
After the gig she was standing with her back to me in the yard out back where everyone goes for a smoke. I put on my best chat-up face ……yeah, yeah….tapped her on the shoulder, she turned around and looked like Pete Burn…..fuck; last time that happened I was in Bangkok and ran as fast as I could….
The Fall crowd are all nice except for the prick with me.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
How come no-one mentions the massive gulf that exists between the ‘Haves’, and the ‘Have-Nots’? Coupled with the constant bleating in the media about Celtic Tigers, Property Prices and fuckin’ SSIAs, is it any wonder that kids grow up feeling entitled? And when nothing is forthcoming, they’re bound to feel frustrated and angry.
I’m not condoning any scumbag’s behaviour. Just trying to understand this new brand of hooligan we’ve created.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
This is a well documented phenomenon. Alcohol is not the problem although does cause it to be amplified. The issue is class stratification, lack of education and too few opportunities for those without it…giving the Garda and courts bigger sticks is viscerally satisfying but not really the answer. Neither is restricting alcohol sales.
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
Itchy, are you slagging my Panama hat?
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:56 pm
think there is a misprint in my copy of the book..
then ron brought us a tray of his wonderful mohitos..
Is this a mistake… will all become clear??… OK so this is more of the philosophical stuff, and the mohito is really your bicycle and your in love with it, but its not really your bike,its just Guinness…. Right??
Please explain…PLEASE!!!
March 19th, 2008 @ 1:59 pm
The mojito is the drink of kings.*
*waits for someone to make the obvious ‘queen’ joke.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
The only way to solve any problem is to throw money at it. Money to pay for more guards, more truancy officers (I know, I know), more enforcement of the laws of the land. MAKE these little fuckers stop what they’re doing. Money would also pay for more jobs, more things for kids to do, more opportunities.
However, after 15 years of unprecedented economic growth during which time Ireland grew “rich”, it seems we still do not have a pot to piss in. A&E units getting shut down, roads still in shite order, FAI can’t even afford to pay for their own manager etc etc etc. Where the fuck did all the money go? Wasted, gone.
We’re worse off than we were 15 years ago, unbelievably.
(p.s. When I was 16/17 there was just as much alcohol available, but not as many stabbings.)
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
“Freddie Mercury walked in to a bar &….
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
OK, so when you are spending your royalty checks (after waiting the required 17 days) on fancy holidays to the Caribbean (or whereever the fuck mohitos come from) and they are being prepared by native beauties with pert uncovered breasts, with the mint leaves picked from the ground around her, and the rum is being poured from the petrified bladder of a virgin, and the sugar from cane that grows on the side of the road….. THEN its OK to have a mohito. But as for RON,
…Well
I would have expected more…
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
I didn’t know Freddie Mercury drank Mohitos.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Just gotta throw my twoeurocentworth in here.
One of the problems here is booze, as Irish people are just more into drinking than other nations.
But the truth of the matter is that this sort of shit happens in every city all over the world.
The spate of crime over the last while,whilst horrific is still quite rare. I guarantee most people here would have felt safe on O’Connell St on Monday. One incident , terrible as it was, does not make a street unsafe. I have been in town at all hours, in various states of drunken stupor, and not had one single incident in about 20 years of dedicated drinking.
The fact is that in Ireland these incidents do get reported and discussed in the media. It shows that people care about their society.
I lived in The Netherlands for 6 years and Dutch people think they live in a fucking paradise. The media there just doesn’t report crime like here. People get murdered and it makes just a footnote in small column in the papers. Do you remember about 5 years ago, 2 Irish lads were murdered in Scheveningen,(cunt to pronounce that) near The Hague? Turned out it was a case of mistaken identity. Two unfortunate innocent guys in the wrong place at the wrong time. Made huge news here, and there was nothing, and I mean nothing about it on Dutch news. I only heard about it when I rang back to Ireland.
Dutch people who visit us here, are shocked to discover that most houses have alarms installed. ‘Is crime so bad here?’ they ask, no it’s not but we are just more realistic than you. I know lots of people in Holland whose houses have been broken into, but they think everything is fine.
I would rather live here where incidents of scumbags are reported on and tackled, rather than swept under the carpet like in Holland, which give people a false sense of security but does not portray the reality that’s going on around them.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
Monday night Belfast and man gets out of his car to remonstrate with kids throwing stones at passing cars. As he’s giving them a bollocking one of the rat bastards jumps into his car and drives off…….with his kid in the back seat. He should have just ran the fuckers down.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
If I remember right Murpho, those two guys were treated like characters in a Quentin Tarantino movie?
I take your point that everything in Ireland is a “crisis”
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
Let’s just admit it. We’re a nation of whinging, moaning cunts, toked up on drink and drugs to the extent that we’re unable to do anything more than procrastinate on our own personal version of a solution. We pretend we care, but can’t be arsed to get up off our barstools.
Basically, we’re fucked.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:46 pm
I agree with Murpho in that if it is making headlines then it is rare. We will worry when these occurences are so common we wont raise an eyebrow.
Also if anyone thinks that drink isnt a great deal of the cause should just go to casualty or any court around the country and see how many cases of each are (heavy) drink related.
Some of us can behave on drink but even so I bet if everyone here remembers the stupidest or most harmful thing(s) they’ve ever done I bet a lot of it was on drink.
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Drinks I like – Guinness, Whiskey, Mojito. Itchybollix – Smyths or Keelings?
March 19th, 2008 @ 2:50 pm
great, I waste my time coming up with a sensible post on your last post Twenty, and what do you do? make a new one and steal my thunder.
I was expecting joyous cries of “Sheer genius Morgor!” and “You should rule the world Morgor!”
You’re such a cunt.
I’m not posting any more comments until either you apologise or I have a cup of tea. That’s final.
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:02 pm
City centre dublin in the wee hours is fucking hideous. If you ever happen to be sober at that time, have a good look around you on Dame St etc….it is absolutely sick. At times like that i can totally understand genocide etc. Dublin would be a much better place if opening times were altered. Have you ever been to a major spanish city (not the costa del scobie), the wee hours are safe and the fucking idiot head count is extremely low because they are still off their heads in what ever establishment they went to because it is still open.
Drunk dickheads + coked up scobies, on the street together at 3am = MURDER
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
Keelings Supergrover
I like Smyths but all my friends hate it….I dunno what to to think that means??
I’ll be there tonight and tomorrow night drinking Guinness and Tequila
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
Morgor, I read your comment. Do you work in PR or Advertising? Your little rant caught my attention..
here’s some advice from Mr Hicks, you may find useful
Bill hicks Advice for marketeers
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
Shaz, I remember walking around Barcelona and remarking at the lack of scumbags at 2 in the morning.
Then I heard drunken shouting and thought, ha, they do have scumbags too.
Turned out they were drunken dubs on holiday . . . I was quite deflated.
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
All i can hear here is Spain, Spain, Spain.
Look you fuckers Spain is no fucking shangri-la. Their crime stats are worse than Irelands…stop moaning
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
Yeah Smyths is good. Used to go there for a pint and a game of pool when I first moved in…
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
heheh Sam, I work in IT.
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
Hey Twenty; can you make this into a social networking site?
March 19th, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
With the Dalai Lama all but set to quit his post as head of the Tibetan people. There’s a fine opportunity for the Irish to poach a new head of state. Afterall we all know Bertie is a scheming, thieving cocksucker that really ought to be ousted. His holiness would then be known as the Dáilai Lama and the people of Ireland would learn to love the people of the world, love life, love the drink, love the kebab and even love the cunts. Social ills cured.
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
The Dalai Lama is a cool little fucker
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
Twenty – you have Monkey Balls, Itchybollix and Dogscock commenting – some issues with genitalia here – Freud would have a field day!
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Queen Shebah – aren’t you a chicky with a mickey ?
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
monkey balls is a bestial boy.
itchybollix is a dirty knacker
dogscock is a dogscock
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
Come on people, Buddyism is the way forward. Let us Mediterraneantate.
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
I read a book by Christopher Hitchens the other day, I was quite amused by his rants against Gandhi,the Dalai Lama and Mother Teresa.
He made good points why each of them were actually cunts.
March 19th, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
Dogscock – I do have a mickey for my sole use and benefit, it’s attached to my big handsome manfriend.
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
This has degenerated into comments about cocks. So I feel it is up to me to get us back on track..
Cunts.
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
I don’t know enough about it to be sure but by all accounts Mother Teresa was a complete and utter cunt.
Looks can be deceiving, eh?
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
No, she pretty much looked like a cunt.
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Everyone is a cunt according to someone. I think the key is to have populist things to be cuntish about, then everyone will be cunting on about the same thing and at least then we will all be cunting equal.
Except people who are not cunts, who will become the new cunts.
It’ll be a wonderrfull, brave new world. In the words of Syndrome from The Increadables, When everyone is super, no one will be….
Cunts.
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
No, she pretty much looked like a cunt.
Ah no, she looked like a friendly granny.
Although my granny was a bitter old cunt. Are all old people bitter cunts?
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
Right so, if compassion and loving kindness are the hallmarks of cunts, so Mr Hitchens would have us believe at least. What then are just general cunt mongers and cunt smiths?
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
On the topic of Mother T Twenty you look like a Male version of her. Cunt.
March 19th, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
Mr Hitchens didn’t attack her for her work with the poor, he attacked her for telling villagers not to wear condoms. I can’t remember the rest of his arguments.
His points on Gandhi were along the lines that india was going to be independant of England one way or another and Gandhi pushed India away from technological advancement therefore increasing the amount of poverty.
March 19th, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
RE rejection of treating the problem at source and just killing everyone who displeases you – jailing and executing everyone is going to be incredibly costly – wouldn’t selective sterilisation like in dinavia be far more efficient?
March 19th, 2008 @ 7:01 pm
Personally I think people should be encouraged to drink more at a younger age so that when they reach 18 and start going to boozers, they can handle their gargle.
Like me.
And Barcelona can ask me bollix. They still owe me a credit card and €500 cash from 3 years ago, the thieving cunts.
March 19th, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
Didn’t Homer famously describe alcohol as “the cause of and solution to all life’s problems”?
Hope I quoted that correctly.
March 19th, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
I don’t remember that from the Odyssey. Must have been in the Iliad.
March 19th, 2008 @ 8:58 pm
Medbh, you homer statement is duff amigo.
March 19th, 2008 @ 11:30 pm
Ha ha ! Your cover’s been blown. I have it on the best authority that you are a sweet gentleman. So Sam says:)
March 20th, 2008 @ 10:03 am
I love alcolhol and hate the retarded morons who cant control themselves on it and as a result give it a bad name.
I think 20s solution is the best, put all the animals on an island off the coast.
Have it patrolled by snipers, boats, sharks and spray lead at anything that tries to get off the island, no questions asked.
March 20th, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
Aye Barcelona’s great and in Madrid you could have a beer in the butchers.
March 20th, 2008 @ 7:53 pm
Who knows? Do know as someone who has lived in Spain for near six years that one can get in as much fisticuffs here as home but the escalation is not the same, few weapons or implements are employed and when it’s over it’s over. Young Barcelona/Madrid/Valencia lads in numbers will jump on lone foreigners as quick as anyother teenagers with no concept of the consequences of their actions. This has happened to me a couple of times in Spain but left me with little more than a bruised ego, at home I probably wouldn’t have been so lucky. Of course there are sadists everwhere but the only real example I can recall of over the top street violence like I hear of from my friends back home have been when I’ve seen football hooligans in action in Barce & Valencia, and that’s got nothing to do with drink.
March 20th, 2008 @ 8:06 pm
oh and yeah…anyone who reckons the Gardai don’t give you a hiding when you’re arrested for any sort of affray are mistaken. In Spain they most certainly do; in Ireland, the Uk, Australia…a good deal of coppers are heavy handed thugs itching for an opportunity to dole out a hiding safe in the knowledge they’ll get away with it. In my experience it ain’t much of a deterent it just makes ya hate cops.
March 21st, 2008 @ 11:34 am
Zcorpio, ya rebel ya !
December 16th, 2008 @ 1:19 am
This thread is total crap. Just an excuse for people who like booze and smoking to vent out a load of pseudo-psychology and a fantasy version of 1950s social policy.
Why no mention that shitty consumerism, consumer credit habits and the culture of ‘cheap’ everything has a disastrous effect when coupled with a crooked economy and the dismantling of useful work?
This has been going on so long, unchecked, that the population of “feral” people has exploded.
Just a point about Holland. I have lived here for twelve years and it matters which circles you move in. If you mix with middle-class and even “working class” arseholes in bars, you learn nothing about the country. I had the misfortune to end up in a homeless hostel and the fact is, the people in that country are just less predisposed to violence, even the jailbirds. In a hostel in England I saw someone get their throat cut, an stabbings on a regular basis. The only thing killing the underclass here is a life spent in weed and hash shops. There’s plenty of media coverage on crime here, if you open your eyes. Just less of a media circus.
Any idiot who doesn’t look at underlying causes is just pretending to know what’s going on.