Paul W Tibbets, Jr is dead

Posted on | November 1, 2007 | 35 Comments

The man who dropped the first atomic bomb died today.

The Enola Gay dropped the Little Boy on Hiroshima on August 6th 1945. It’s estimated that 140,000 died as a result of the blast and associated medical conditions afterwards.

Tibbets lived for another 62 years. Kind of puts paid to the whole notion of karma, doesn’t it?

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35 Responses to “Paul W Tibbets, Jr is dead”

  1. badgerdaddy
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:08 pm

    I thought karma happened after this life ended, rather than during it? Might still come.

  2. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    That’s hardly a deterrent then, is it?

  3. EmptyHead
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:13 pm

    Maybe “Little Boy” was return Karma for the Japanese for all the mad and bad shit they did to POWs and innocents during the war???

  4. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

    Yeah, the Japanese were ninja cannibals. The very worst kind of cannibal there is.

  5. EmptyHead
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

    Sorry if the link pisses people off (10 Park Drive) but seriously 20, if you’re talking about Ninjas you just gotta see this…
    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ninja_parade_slips_through_town

  6. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:21 pm

    haha, the Onion is brilliant sometimes.

  7. Tomaltach
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:27 pm

    I love the names they gave the bombs. They dropped “Little boy on Hiroshima and Japan refused to surrender. Then they said “hey japs, that was Little boy, next up is Fat Man“. But the japs stubbornly refused to surrender so a few days later they dropped Fat Man on Nagasaki. The japs still refused to surrender until the Americans said “ok, japs, next on the menu is Big Fat Mother Fucker. And the japs said “Eerrrrrrrrrr, ok”.

  8. porridge
    November 1st, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

    “An unknown number of survivors from the Hiroshima bombing made their way to Nagasaki and were bombed again” – wikipedia. there’s karma for you.

  9. johnny rotten
    November 1st, 2007 @ 5:02 pm

    i had a shit this morning it was a mini hiroshima

  10. roosta
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:07 pm

    That’s hardly a deterrent then, is it?

    Well, karma is a concept in Buddhism (amongst other religions), and if you are a Buddhist then it’s highly likely you do believe in rebirth, so it would be a deterrent or sorts.

    So, if you don’t believe in rebirth and you’re not a Buddhist, then the term “karma” doesn’t have to mean anything to you.

    Plus karma has alot to do with the intentions behind an act. If the pilot (and im not condoning this line of thought) believed (as many do) that this horrible act would save more lives, then his intentions wouldn’t necessarily been “evil” thus his karma mightn’t be a case of him getting nuked to fuck as a result either. This of course isn’t to say that you can try and justify smacking your wife because it was for her own good, but its just an example of how buddhists consider how karma is formed.

    Sadly, im shite at explaining it really. =/

  11. marc
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    my father flew bombing runs over japan as a bombardier…four of his brothers served in the South Pacific…all of them voluynteered..no draftees… Pop always said the A-Bomb saved the lives of him and his brothers…two of whom were Marines who would have gone ashore in the first wave invasion of Japan..the military expected to lose 100,000 men invading Japan

  12. Bock the Robber
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

    Oh well, if it saved your Dad’s life, that’s ok then. I’m sure the 140,000 Japanese civilians would gladly have laid down their lives to save your Pop. After all, he was only an innocent bomber dropping explosives on them.

  13. marc
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

    Bock, he was a soldier in a war…The Japanese had publicly stated they’d never give up…nice peacenik pap…the 140,000 Japanese civilians, like all Japanese civilians, were expected to never surrender and, yes, to kill Pop and a few hundred thousand more like him. “Ok, then,” is a bit of an out of place phrase when discussing a world war

  14. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    When you think about it it was probably the best thing that ever happened to Japan. Having limited space in which to live the atomic bomb stunted their growth meaning they could exist more happily in a small space.

    Plus, I’m sure this is what inspired them to start inventing gadgets.

    No atomic bomb = no Playstation and I think we can all agree that 140,000 lives is a small price to pay.

  15. ELCC
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

    It certainly puts paid to the whole notion of Instant Karma. Imagine..

  16. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 6:57 pm

    I wish I’d thought of that. Now I’m a jealous guy.

  17. marc
    November 1st, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

    Imagine you’re a dumbass
    Imagine your name’s John.
    Imagine Yoko Ono gives you a hard on
    Imagine you’re a junkie
    married to a jap.
    You may say I’m an asshole and my wife looks like a man
    Someday John David Chapman will turn my brains to jam.

    Aaaah yes, good old hippie muisic…so profound

  18. Twenty Major
    November 1st, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    You’re a true poet, mark with a c.

  19. Hangar Queen
    November 1st, 2007 @ 8:36 pm

    The B29 that dropped the second bomb on Nagasaki was called “Bock’s Car”……just saying like.

  20. cnut
    November 1st, 2007 @ 8:52 pm

    Maybe Mr. Tibbets had to live with the screams of 140,000 dying souls every night for 62 years and lived with the sure knowledge that he was going to hell every day for 62 years.

    Or maybe he slept like a baby and didn’t give a fuck.

    Just going for some balance here.

  21. Loco Lobo
    November 1st, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    Why worry about the Nips that died in the atomic bombings! They beieved in reincarnation and are now back making playstations and cars.

  22. Loco Lobo
    November 1st, 2007 @ 9:50 pm

    Tibbets had been interviewed on television a number of times and said that he lost no sleep over Hiroshima. You win a war any way that you can.

  23. Bock the Robber
    November 1st, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    I see Marc displays the detached rationality we’ve come to expect from Americans when debating things.

  24. MuckSavage
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 12:11 am

    Enola Gay me bollix

    oh and lest I forget

    Karma me bollix

  25. Robert
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 1:01 am

    karma could have been; Japanese get nuked, then we spend the next 60 years buying their electronics and cars.

  26. Robert
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 1:03 am

    There was a little Jap
    Who took a little nap
    after binging all day on cheap saki

    And from his bedroom
    he heard a loud boom
    and thought “Fuck they’ve just nuked Nagasaki”

  27. Proud Englishman
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 2:31 am

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    The Irish are wankers
    And the Welsh are too

    Proud Englishman

  28. Puerile Pish
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 6:39 am

    Somebody should drop one on England, The place is full of fucking mutants anyway. And fucking Slough looks like a nuclear wasteland , may as well have the radiation to finish the job.

  29. Robert
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 8:21 am

    Northern English People put gravy on chips.

    I rest my case.

  30. Ibanez
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 8:46 am

    my dogma got ran over by my karma

  31. marc
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    how about British bombers “murdering” innocent Germans…any pity there from the British, a people who, as near as I can tell, all wear turbans and are now named “Ali?”

  32. Mark
    November 2nd, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

    There’s a book, I believe, called “Flyboys” that does a pretty good job dissecting parts of the Pacific War, as well as the history and cultural differences that led to the war. Worth a read. Although more seems to have been published about WWII in the European theater, it is worthwhile noting that the war in the Pacific was even more savage (not including the concentration camps – just the battles).

    I’m sure that there are more than a few Chinese that were glad to see the Japs lose. After all, they were a bit of fun for the Japs who liked to cut off their heads in competitions. They also starved, and raped hundreds of thousands (if not millions) with their “local provisioning” policy.

    War is a horrible thing. Japan needed to be stopped, but as always, there were some additional factors that entered into the dropping of the bombs. One of the lesser-known is that the US needed to demonstrate the bomb’s power to Russia in order to prevent a European power-play. The whole thing is pretty disgusting, but I’m not sure how the world would look today were it not done. It would certainly be different.

    I had a relative who was a “guest” of the Japanese for almost a decade. They were not nice hosts.

  33. roryjohn
    November 4th, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

    Enola Gay, you should have stayed at home yesterday…

  34. Twenty Major
    November 4th, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

    Truly one of the greatest songs of all time.

  35. Twenty Major
    November 4th, 2007 @ 6:21 pm

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