Paul W Tibbets, Jr is dead
The man who dropped the first atomic bomb died today.
The Enola Gay dropped the Little Boy on Hiroshima on August 6th 1945. It’s estimated that 140,000 died as a result of the blast and associated medical conditions afterwards.
Tibbets lived for another 62 years. Kind of puts paid to the whole notion of karma, doesn’t it?
November 1st, 2007 at 4:08 pm
I thought karma happened after this life ended, rather than during it? Might still come.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:09 pm
That’s hardly a deterrent then, is it?
November 1st, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Maybe “Little Boy” was return Karma for the Japanese for all the mad and bad shit they did to POWs and innocents during the war???
November 1st, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Yeah, the Japanese were ninja cannibals. The very worst kind of cannibal there is.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Sorry if the link pisses people off (10 Park Drive) but seriously 20, if you’re talking about Ninjas you just gotta see this…
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ninja_parade_slips_through_town
November 1st, 2007 at 4:21 pm
haha, the Onion is brilliant sometimes.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:27 pm
I love the names they gave the bombs. They dropped “Little boy on Hiroshima and Japan refused to surrender. Then they said “hey japs, that was Little boy, next up is Fat Man“. But the japs stubbornly refused to surrender so a few days later they dropped Fat Man on Nagasaki. The japs still refused to surrender until the Americans said “ok, japs, next on the menu is Big Fat Mother Fucker. And the japs said “Eerrrrrrrrrr, ok”.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:49 pm
“An unknown number of survivors from the Hiroshima bombing made their way to Nagasaki and were bombed again” – wikipedia. there’s karma for you.
November 1st, 2007 at 5:02 pm
i had a shit this morning it was a mini hiroshima
November 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pm
That’s hardly a deterrent then, is it?
Well, karma is a concept in Buddhism (amongst other religions), and if you are a Buddhist then it’s highly likely you do believe in rebirth, so it would be a deterrent or sorts.
So, if you don’t believe in rebirth and you’re not a Buddhist, then the term “karma” doesn’t have to mean anything to you.
Plus karma has alot to do with the intentions behind an act. If the pilot (and im not condoning this line of thought) believed (as many do) that this horrible act would save more lives, then his intentions wouldn’t necessarily been “evil” thus his karma mightn’t be a case of him getting nuked to fuck as a result either. This of course isn’t to say that you can try and justify smacking your wife because it was for her own good, but its just an example of how buddhists consider how karma is formed.
Sadly, im shite at explaining it really. =/
November 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pm
my father flew bombing runs over japan as a bombardier…four of his brothers served in the South Pacific…all of them voluynteered..no draftees… Pop always said the A-Bomb saved the lives of him and his brothers…two of whom were Marines who would have gone ashore in the first wave invasion of Japan..the military expected to lose 100,000 men invading Japan
November 1st, 2007 at 6:28 pm
Oh well, if it saved your Dad’s life, that’s ok then. I’m sure the 140,000 Japanese civilians would gladly have laid down their lives to save your Pop. After all, he was only an innocent bomber dropping explosives on them.
November 1st, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Bock, he was a soldier in a war…The Japanese had publicly stated they’d never give up…nice peacenik pap…the 140,000 Japanese civilians, like all Japanese civilians, were expected to never surrender and, yes, to kill Pop and a few hundred thousand more like him. “Ok, then,” is a bit of an out of place phrase when discussing a world war
November 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm
When you think about it it was probably the best thing that ever happened to Japan. Having limited space in which to live the atomic bomb stunted their growth meaning they could exist more happily in a small space.
Plus, I’m sure this is what inspired them to start inventing gadgets.
No atomic bomb = no Playstation and I think we can all agree that 140,000 lives is a small price to pay.
November 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pm
It certainly puts paid to the whole notion of Instant Karma. Imagine..
November 1st, 2007 at 6:57 pm
I wish I’d thought of that. Now I’m a jealous guy.
November 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Imagine you’re a dumbass
Imagine your name’s John.
Imagine Yoko Ono gives you a hard on
Imagine you’re a junkie
married to a jap.
You may say I’m an asshole and my wife looks like a man
Someday John David Chapman will turn my brains to jam.
Aaaah yes, good old hippie muisic…so profound
November 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pm
You’re a true poet, mark with a c.
November 1st, 2007 at 8:36 pm
The B29 that dropped the second bomb on Nagasaki was called “Bock’s Car”……just saying like.
November 1st, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Maybe Mr. Tibbets had to live with the screams of 140,000 dying souls every night for 62 years and lived with the sure knowledge that he was going to hell every day for 62 years.
Or maybe he slept like a baby and didn’t give a fuck.
Just going for some balance here.
November 1st, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Why worry about the Nips that died in the atomic bombings! They beieved in reincarnation and are now back making playstations and cars.
November 1st, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Tibbets had been interviewed on television a number of times and said that he lost no sleep over Hiroshima. You win a war any way that you can.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pm
I see Marc displays the detached rationality we’ve come to expect from Americans when debating things.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 am
Enola Gay me bollix
oh and lest I forget
Karma me bollix
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 am
karma could have been; Japanese get nuked, then we spend the next 60 years buying their electronics and cars.
November 2nd, 2007 at 1:03 am
There was a little Jap
Who took a little nap
after binging all day on cheap saki
And from his bedroom
he heard a loud boom
and thought “Fuck they’ve just nuked Nagasaki”
November 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 am
Roses are red
Violets are blue
The Irish are wankers
And the Welsh are too
Proud Englishman
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 am
Somebody should drop one on England, The place is full of fucking mutants anyway. And fucking Slough looks like a nuclear wasteland , may as well have the radiation to finish the job.
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 am
Northern English People put gravy on chips.
I rest my case.
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:46 am
my dogma got ran over by my karma
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm
how about British bombers “murdering” innocent Germans…any pity there from the British, a people who, as near as I can tell, all wear turbans and are now named “Ali?”
November 2nd, 2007 at 4:28 pm
There’s a book, I believe, called “Flyboys” that does a pretty good job dissecting parts of the Pacific War, as well as the history and cultural differences that led to the war. Worth a read. Although more seems to have been published about WWII in the European theater, it is worthwhile noting that the war in the Pacific was even more savage (not including the concentration camps – just the battles).
I’m sure that there are more than a few Chinese that were glad to see the Japs lose. After all, they were a bit of fun for the Japs who liked to cut off their heads in competitions. They also starved, and raped hundreds of thousands (if not millions) with their “local provisioning” policy.
War is a horrible thing. Japan needed to be stopped, but as always, there were some additional factors that entered into the dropping of the bombs. One of the lesser-known is that the US needed to demonstrate the bomb’s power to Russia in order to prevent a European power-play. The whole thing is pretty disgusting, but I’m not sure how the world would look today were it not done. It would certainly be different.
I had a relative who was a “guest” of the Japanese for almost a decade. They were not nice hosts.
November 4th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Enola Gay, you should have stayed at home yesterday…
November 4th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Truly one of the greatest songs of all time.
November 4th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01SBf0tsLyI