They did their best
Posted on | October 3, 2007 | 60 Comments
The police commander who launched the surveillance operation which ended in the death of Jean Charles de Menezes has told a court: “We did our best.” – BBC
Surely their best would have been to not shoot an unarmed Brazilian, who doesn’t look anything like your run of the mill suicide bomber, seven times and then make up stories about how he was running away and was wearing a bulky coat when in fact he was wearing a short denim jacket and wasn’t running at all.
Imagine if you sent an English policeman to the shop to buy you a Pritt stick and a couple of biros. He’d come back with some charcoal sticks and a dog’s corpse then tell you he did his best.
Lack of blame culture, that’s what I blame it on.
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October 3rd, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Yeah, well it was all their fault, nothing to do with me now was it, you can’t blame this one on me – anyway I have a cast iron alibi
October 3rd, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
I say give the Gardai whatever weapons they want. Bazookas, flame throwers, whatever. Just don’t send the poor cunts out with sticks. It’s like sending someone into a sword fight with a drawing pin.
Because what happened in England would never happen in Ireland. Right Twenty?
October 3rd, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Of course not. We don’t have an underground.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
Ha ha-got me there.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
For Fucks sake Twenty, earlier on you were all for arming the Gardai and letting them loose with guns, and they are only moderately brighter than the Met.
Anyway if you had ever met any of the utter utter cunts working for the Met you would understand that “all those foreigners look the same”
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Brazilian – http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/07/MenezesL170706_228x290.jpg
Suicide bomber – http://badexample.mu.nu/archives/suicide%20bomber.jpg
I know they all look the same but there are subtle differences between them if you take the time to look.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Asked by Mr Justice Henriques if this four-hour delay was an “acceptable passage of time”, Mr McDowell said it was the “quickest time that that team could be assembled and deployed with all the considerations that were bearing upon us that morning”.
must have been a queue at the local chipper which delayed the pudding snackboxes. anyway, it’s all symptomatic of putting someone called mcdowell in charge of the law.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
the officers in question were part of an elite unit, called SoWAT (Special olympics Weapons And Tactics). the following is an image they were shown during a briefing to aid in terrorist identifaction
http://www.nmsu.edu/~safety/images/bomb&man_runing_stick_fig.jpg
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
duh.. identification
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Not if you work for the Police: Without a word of a lie:
I was working in England in the early nineties and got stranded in a bar in Newcastle. I had to make a call on my brick like mobile and went outside leaving my pint and my briefcase at the bar. In two minutes the police had arrived and I had to explain that my accent was in fact Scottish NOT Irish , I was phoning my mum and my briefcase contained architects drawings not fucking Semtex. Thick cunting Geordie barmaid and Police.
Anyway the Met are fucking worse…I am all for Law and Order but please give the jobs to people with an i.q higher than room temperature.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Actually shouldn’t complain at least I wasn’t fucking shot…
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
British Cops f’k'n twats! remember the Birmingham Six ?
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Sure. They got a few years in jail and a big lump sum at the end. No harm done really.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Yea, good points Twenty!
October 3rd, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Brother Twenty, the Met will shoot anyone who hasn’t got the right Masonic credentials. If you were Ibrahim Al Fatwa carrying a holdall of semtex into the Lloyd’s building you’d be perfectly alright once you stated and claimed lodge fraternity.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Look pretty similar to me:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44152000/jpg/_44152268_composite203.jpg
October 3rd, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
And an unarmed Brazillian wouldn’t even have been able to plead “Unhand me!” to his captors – doubly vulnerable.
Plus, how would he have done up the buttons on his bulky overcoat? Their story just doesn’t add up.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Ok, they confused a dago for a knacker – an easy mistake.
PP is a Jock ? That explains a lot.
The Met are gentlemen compared to the Scouser cops – they are utter cunts.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
cop are scumbags ,where ever you go, jumped up little cunts with a IQ of a 6 year old don’t give the irish pigs guns they are retarded at the best of times let alone with guns
October 3rd, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
The Met police should bring in a policy to shoot every third person on the tube, that way you might get a seat, if the public are consultated on this id suggested the people to be shot be the ones that stare you out for ages like hypnotising snakes or grin at you for no known reason, i beleive that those loonies that blew themselves up did so not out of religious fevour but out of spite to the seat hogging, staring, grinning bastards.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
The Met police should bring in a policy to shoot every third person on the tube,
Too big a risk thay would shoot a Jock – you know what a huge chip those sporran-bashing neep-eating cunts already have about the English …. Imagine, weeks of moaning by that talking deep-fried-mars-bar-cunt-Alex-cunting-Salmond.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
We don’t bash sporrans, Maggot. We love them. We bash the English, and cocky Irishers and people that live 30 miles away and hell, where I come from, we bash anybody we can find that looks like they might be from the mainland. If you can demonstrate that you have the right numbers of fingers and toes and your cousin isn’t either your brother or an ovine, we will bash you.
We hate you all and we don’t have much time for ourselves either.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
If you can demonstrate that you have the right numbers of fingers and toes
Who are you trying to kid ? You Krankies cannot count!
So how would you know what is the right number ?
October 3rd, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
armed cops tell their commander they’ve just shot and killed two brazilian people on the tube. commander gets extremely upset. cops confused by outburst. finally commander looks up and asks “how many is a brazillion?”
October 3rd, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
Which pub in Newcastle ?
October 3rd, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
maggot, 11 is the number of our fingers; 12 is the number of inches in our men’s willies; and 0.25 inches is the length of a maggot. We get by.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
10 Park Drive: Bar at Train station stranded because Trains stopped going further North after 10pm.
After It closed I had to sit outside in the dead of winter and watch thise mental geordies wandering about with fuck all on except tee-shirts.
Maggot , you are a festering sore on Britneys anus.I will not rise to your casually racist comments. I don’t hate the English(I lived amongst the cunts for years and my son is English by birth) I pretty much hate everyone.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
Actually who am I fucking kidding, I hate the English “brand”. I hate the arrogance and prejudice they fucking spout constantly, and the belief that their bastard hybrid arses are somehow better than the rest of the world. Their cuntish press and their slimy governments. The nation that spawned that devil whore Thatcher and her money grabbing minions of the eighties, who destroyed communities and lives in Wales,Scotland and Ireland. They aren’t even true to themselves as the cut swathes of destruction through the North of England. Their police state and infringemnts against civil liberties. However, other than the neo-nazis I met in new cross after a Millwall game they are mostly as Individuals normal decent people.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Maggot , you are a festering sore on Britneys anus
I should be so lucky!
October 3rd, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
Maggot you are
Sick Sick Sick Puppy
raising a glass to you now.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
…..jaysus….
i rememeber, when i was a young garda, the sarge sent me down to the shops for some Marietta buscuits for the tea and i got a bit of a rush of blood to head and bought toffee pops….me hole was sore for a from the kicking he gave me. jaysus sarge, i screamed as he bagan to kick me, i done me best. Your best, he said, ran down the inside of yer mothers leg ya gobshite. Lovely man was that sarge.
October 3rd, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
On the bright side he was the only shot on the tube that day!
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:47 am
“Johnny Mars said: ’bout Birmingham Six
Sure. They got a few years in jail and a big lump sum at the end. No harm done really”
Did ya know the fucking Home Office, deducted room and board for the 20 odd years in prison from the compo they got from the courts.
The British have some black hearted officials, you see these lies they made about De Menezes is not out of character.
You can surly understand what drove the rebels of 1916, but then again, had they known their Irish Nation would someday produce a Herr McDowell, they probably would’nt have bothered.
October 4th, 2007 @ 7:39 am
They did they’r best, seven shots on target out of nine is not bad shooting!
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Peurile, are you suggesting that it would have been OK to call the cops if you had been Irish and not Scottish? Perhaps the barmaid called the cops because there was a security risk and some dickhead had legged it out of the bar leaving an unattended package? Personally, I would have shot you and stolen your pint so you may think yourself lucky and dry your eyes, you whinging Jock twat.
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
No, I am suggesting that fucking idiots like you inhabit most of the world. A strange accent and a briefcase does not equal terrorist risk. It is that kind of paranoid shite that leads to Brazilians being shot on the tube for nothing more than looking a bit shifty. Using that rationale I would have gunned down most of fucking Liverpool, Birmingham, Cornwall, London and Fucking Cork. In fact given the volume of fake tan in Dublin bars I would have needed some help to gun down the volume of shifty tanned people.
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
I am not necessarily against the gunning down of most of fucking Liverpool, Birmingham, Cornwall, London and Fucking Cork.
As for idiocy, you were the one who left an unattended pint so maybe your first line should have read “fucking idiots like us”.
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Fourth Former: fair comment, especially in Newcastle where they are not that fussed where their beer comes from.
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
I cant honestly believe that blog came from the same person who went on a rant about how Irish cops should have guns.
Pathetic Twenty!
October 4th, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Get fucked.
Giving the police guns is in no way related to the fact that some stupid cunts can’t tell a Brazilian electrician from a Muslim terrorist.
October 4th, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
“I say give the Gardai whatever weapons they want. Bazookas, flame throwers, whatever. Just don’t send the poor cunts out with sticks. It’s like sending someone into a sword fight with a drawing pin.” Twenty
Now Twenty how many innocent people do you reckon will get caped by some reacharound fresh from his idiot training in Templemore and “thinks” he sees a bad guy with a weapon. More guns is not an answer.
You have a weak point and you should know better.
October 4th, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
And also what does a terrorist look like?
They dont walk around with towels on their heads wearing shawls with a TNT printed on.
October 4th, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
GG – this is not a forum for debate, cross examination or analysis.
However, I think you’ll find that the sort of terrorists they were looking for at that time we carrying rucksacks full of explosives.
October 4th, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Thanks for clearing that up. The next time I see a taned guy with a back pack I will run in the other direction.
October 4th, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Better safe than sorry.
October 4th, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
“The next time I see a taned guy with a back pack I will run in the other direction.”
GG Allin – you’d get fit down under
October 4th, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
You condemn these armed bandits yet wonder why our own don’t have carry weapons. The irony. Damned if they do carry weapons, damned if they don’t it seems.
October 4th, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Fucking hell. The problem was that they shot the wrong bloke, not that they had guns.
October 4th, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
shoot the lot of everybody says i, then me and problembride can set home up in a pub and breed pig children who will have my snout and her lovely eyes! “when irish childpig eyes are smiling and there’s sausages in the pan” on a different musical note id give three brazilian street children to be a festering sore on britneys piss-flaps. Problembride dont be jealous you can rub donkeys ointment on me little laddie to see if it changes my unfortnate affliction, caused by stealing frozen chickens as a boy and stowing them down my trousers where frost bite set in. but im still slightly bigger than 0.25…as long as me micky has been massarged with precious oils or quick fry, whatever is at hand. Problembride be mine!
October 4th, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
“The problem was that they shot the wrong bloke, not that they had guns.”
You are unbelievable, if they shot the wrong bloke is that not a good enough reason for them not to have guns. Just as you highlighted the Police even lied about him running etc. They effectively murdered that guy; he is somebody’s son and brother, why the hell did he deserve to die? It was incompetence and a blatant attempt to make an example of somebody. And then to support them by saying mistakes happen, would walk up to a mother and tell her that her son was shot but is ok as mistakes happen? The Police in England under go almost twice as much training as the Garda here (Look on both of the recruitment websites) if they cannot be trusted to use arms then our shower of wasters definitely can’t. You are attempting to separate the two issues but you are not you are simply contradicting yourself it is hypocrisy of the highest order.
October 4th, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
How did I support them?
You’re a fucking pain in the hole.
October 4th, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Last week you said the Gards should be armed, did you not? This week you are giving out about the armed police in England shooting a civilian. Is it not clear that this is a perfect example of the repercussions of having armed police?
And another thing, just because I disagree with you it doesn’t make me a “cunt”, “wind up merchant”, “cretin” or any of the other abusive remarks you make about me. I realise that is part of your persona but by leaving the comment field open surely you are encouraging people to express opinions, I’m all for diversity but telling somebody to fuck off because you disagree with them is a tad excessive.
October 4th, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
”Is it not clear that this is a perfect example of the repercussions of having armed police?”
No Nonny it is a perfect example of the repercussions of institutionalised racism, the implementation of a shoot to kill policy (despite its failure in various jurisdictions) and a general unwillingness of British law enforcement authorities to learn from their mistakes. Context and motivation is everything.
October 4th, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
Nonny – I have no problem with anyone expressing opinions. You only need to look at all the comments on here to see that.
What does give me a pain in my hole is your ability to come on here, make some random interpretation of what I’ve written and defend that piece of wisdom, that exists only in your brain, until the end of fucking time.
I did not complain for one second about the police in England being armed. I did not support them by saying ‘mistakes happen’. I complained about the armed police making a complete bollocks of an operation then lying through their teeth about it.
That doesn’t alter the fact I think the police should be armed.
October 4th, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
Look nonny and twenty lets forget about brazilians and gung-ho police and lets campaign to arm hedgehogs! for isnt it a fact that they are murdered day in and day out not to mention night time. “uzi’s for hedgehogs” should be the cry, then let some fecker try crush us…them i mean them.
October 4th, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
babypowers, what the feck are you on about? whats wrong with a bit of institutionlised racism? Its got alot of non-white people into positions of power that they would never of got into by thier own merit.
October 5th, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
The Met Police need to send their officers to Glasgow for training, as it appears everyone up there knows the best way to take down a six-foot Brazilian is a tap to the collar bone.
October 5th, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
heh
October 5th, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
i barely touched the bampot. He should be wearing a dress the pussy.
October 8th, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
The Met police who killed DeMenzes are idiots, simple as that really.
Arming the police may or may not help to foil terrorism, but it’s not gonna help some poor old sod who gets shot or knifed on his doorstep by some heroin fuckwit for a bit of cash..
Bring back private firearm ownership – ‘gun control’ is just a sloppy-piss name for making victims defenceless in the first place.