Off with them
Posted in Blog by Twenty Major on August 30th, 2007
Hah, check this out:
Prisoners in Mountjoy are reportedly stockpiling weapons in preparation for a major riot if new security measures are introduced at the jail. Reports this morning say many prisoners have already been released or transferred to other facilities in an effort to disrupt the planned riot. Stashes of knives, broken broom handles and bricks have reportedly been found during cell searches in recent days.
Erm, these blokes are in prison, behind bars, in cells. It surely can’t be that fucking difficult to control them. If you discover something like this you simply keep the cunts locked up to wallow in their own filth until their spirits are broken.
If some of them object or still kick up a fuss make them share their cell with a bear or some kind of carrion eating bird. I guarantee you they’ll become more compliant rather quickly.
Prison really does bring out the MacGyver in prisoners though, doesn’t it?
“We’ve got a problem on C wing.”
“What’s going on?”
“Seems one of them made a thermo-nuclear device out of his toothbrush, some old stones from the yard and the macaroni they had for dinner the other week.”
“My God. Oh the humanity and such.”
No matter what you take away from them they’ll always find something else to make a weapon out of. Having given it some careful consideration I have decided that the only way to prevent this happening is to cut off their hands.
The cheeky fuckers want to riot because they can’t get drugs in anymore. Poor them, you’d think it was a right or something.
I read a better one tho, Prisoners in Limerick took out a contract on the sniffer dog finding all their gear!
August 30th, 2007 at 9:53 am
twenty iam disaponted in you i did not have you down as one of the law and order brigade, a lot of blokes in nick should not be there ,in for shit like non payment of fines and shit , but dirty kiddie fiddlers
are left out, i.e ; judge {pedo } curtin, that four eyed cunts husband off the telly the one who cooks ,see my point ,i hope they wreck the fucking place , justice in ireland , bollocks
August 30th, 2007 at 9:57 am
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a lot of blokes in nick should not be there
They’re innocent. They swear.
I couldn’t care less.
August 30th, 2007 at 10:02 am
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“I have decided that the only way to prevent this happening is to cut off their hands.”
Barbaric… but reasonable.
August 30th, 2007 at 10:11 am
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Oh I liked this line… “many prisoners have already been released…”
Let’s see, have I got this right? Someone says, “The prisoners will riot if we don’t release them!”
So the guvnor says, “Wuhlease the pwisoners!” ???
August 30th, 2007 at 10:16 am
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Makes you wonder at times what the Prison Officers actually do?
August 30th, 2007 at 10:26 am
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wuhweese wogdeow the whapist!
August 30th, 2007 at 10:27 am
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Can’t they made to fight each other for our entertainment? Using their homemade weapons?
Sort of like a cross between robot wars, scrapheap challenge and dog fighting.
You’re fucking welcome, RTE.
August 30th, 2007 at 10:32 am
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fuckin genius idea,scumbag gladiators, I’d watch that :D
August 30th, 2007 at 10:51 am
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Prison doesn’t work. Fact.
Prisoners get locked up like animals for most of the day and the only way to escape from the treatment is drugs.
The majority of people in prison are mentally unstable and shouldn’t be in prison in the first place; they shoud be in a mental institution. Fact.
get a grip twenty
August 30th, 2007 at 10:51 am
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Today I’ve been… « pure savage like says:
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August 30th, 2007 at 11:02 am
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Itchy, I already said I don’t care.
August 30th, 2007 at 11:04 am
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Whats the alternative Itchy?
August 30th, 2007 at 11:47 am
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Don’t put mentally ill people in prison would be a start sheepworrier
August 30th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
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They’re not all mentally ill. Most of them are people that have committed crimes. Some of them, by the nature of their crimes, are loopers but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t cut their hands off.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
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That one in the Shawshank Redemption was quite sound and the big freaky one in the GREEN MILe. Then again they were all shites in SCUM. Who’s to say?
I have enough to be getting on with…
August 30th, 2007 at 12:17 pm
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Yup, what twenty said, but possibly without lopping off body parts. So I take it your more of a rehabilitation rather than punishment kinda fella, Itchy?
I think you need a huge deterrant and a nice cosy padded cell with lots of people talkin about their feelins just doesnt cut it.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
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I’d sooner the fuckers were behind bars than living next door to me itchybollix -and if you were to be honest so would you.
Scumbag gladiators - a winner all the way! Winner gets to shag Davina, Loser Harney
August 30th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
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I don’t agree with been too hard on prisoners.
We have to treat them reasonably.
They should get at least two meals a day.
bread and water for breakfast and mashed spuds in the evening.
There should be no more than 10 per cell, and the buckets should be big enough to take at least 10 good shits without over flowing on to the cell floor.
They should be allowed out of their cells for at least 10 minutes a day.
Just because there rapists, murders, child molesters etc. doesn’t mean we should treat them like animals.
However, if they’re not happy with the very generous conditions, some of which are outlined above, and they try to riot. Then I agree, cut their hands off
August 30th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
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they probably smuggle the broken broom handles around the place up their holes.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
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I could comment, but I won’t.
Oh wait, I just did!
August 30th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
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Why stop at hands, chop off their willy’s so they cant duplicate.
“Prison doesn’t work. Fact.”
Itchybollix, you are a stupid cunt. Fact.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
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It didn’t work for GG Allin anyway. Fat, dead, shrimp-dicked cunt that he was
August 30th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
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prisons aren’t the problem, social welfare is. american statistician bloke pointed out that drop in crime rates in american cities in the early 90’s had nothing to do with deterrence or policing. most of criminals were in late teens/early twenties, with poor backgrounds, single parents, no education etc. drop in crime rate was because abortion became legal in the states in early 70’s, so single parents could get rid of unwanted kids who would otherwise grow up to be criminals. getting rid of single parent allowances, child benefit etc. would save responsible taxpayers a shit load of money and help reduce crime rates. deal with the cause, not effect.
and, while i’m at it, world hunger and poverty could both be solved the same way - have less kids. less people - more for everyone else, and less of those whiny cunts bono and geldof on the telly. great.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
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As I said in a previous thread, mobile phone jammers in and around the Joy. Drug rehab units and summary courts on-site for punishment of crimes committed in custody.
Bring back corporal punishment. Including Twenty’s rather handy idea.
Mentally ill patients/criminals don’t go into the Joy, they go to Dundrum and other places of detention per the CL (Insanity) Act 2006.
Tend to agree with Porridge, welfare state is gone a little mad!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
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thanks gg- you sound like a delightful individual.
talk to John Lonergan before spouting utter nonsense. get your facts straight too
August 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
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Shoot them all with rusty bullets. That’ll teach ‘em.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
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Wuldnt agree with you porridge. The main issue with the welfare state is the letter has taken precedence over the spirit of the law. And the conning wee cunts know how to abuse this.
Taking it away from those who genuinely need it isnt the answer - it just needs to be applied with stricter guidelines.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
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Itchybollix: Bang on!
The rest of you: stupid fuckers!
Why do you bother when you know you know nothing?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
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It’s not a human rights issue. Skobies aren’t people - they’re just skobies.
Mince the fuckers. Decapitate them. Put them on Channel Four. I don’t care what you do with them. Just get rid of the useless scumbag fuckers.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
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the spirit of the law - is that one of those fanciful notions such as natural justice? the whole point of law is the emphasis on technical details.
regardless, social welfare allows people who can’t afford/don’t want to look after kids have them regardless, and then take no responsibility for their lack of upbringing and the ensuing social problems. i have as many kids as i can afford and want (none), and i’m fucked if i can see why i should pay for child benefit, housing or lots of prisons for that matter, for cunts who haven’t worked a day in their lives. if anyone genuinely needs any of this, they have too many kids, end of story.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
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There’s has been work in Ireland for the last few years for anyone that wants to work. Yet there was still plenty of young, able bodied men claiming the dole. Useless no good for nothing Cunts that are too lazy to work.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
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american statistician point out that 90% of prisoners are black?
150 pleads for clemency from the death penalty during George Bushes tenure as Govenor were refused.
150 pleads were from 150 black members of society.
Kill the poor? Wake up.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
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sorry, for social welfare read child benefit/single parent stuf/ free housing for the just plain fucking lazy.
and monkey balls, i take it from your comment that you are the mentally ill felon currently incarcerated in one of our lovely correctional institutes, and would therefore be able to prove us all wrong. if i’m wrong, feel free to correct me, but only on that point.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
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Dunno what natural justice is porridge - the spirt is the overall intention, rather than the loop-hole infested letter of the law which lets cunts off on minor technicalities.
So would you advocate licencing having kids? Its a slippery slope once you start that shite. I agree with not payin taxes for the work-shy twats - bring back the fuckin work houses - but thats hardly the kids fault.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
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nope, no licencing, let people have as many kids as they want, just don’t reward them for doing so. if you train a dog to bite you and then give it a reward, it’ll continue to bite you if you keep giving it rewards.
from childstats.gov:
“In 2005, the serious violent crime offending rate was 17 crimes per 1,000 juveniles ages 12–17, totaling 437,000 such crimes involving juveniles. While this is somewhat higher than the rate in 2004, it is significantly lower than the 1993 peak rate of 52 crimes per 1,000 juveniles ages 12–17.”
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance.htm
(first few graphs are interesting)
August 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
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A scrote is a scote and deserves always to be treated as a scrote its natural, its just and screw the presumption of innocence lark.
“My L’ud”
“I represent this scrote”
“He pleads not guilty”
“He has more previous than you could shake a stick”
“Sentenced to ….”
August 30th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
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Good point well made Porridge, but it still boils down to the kids being punished for the stupidity of their parents. You cant take away the only thing that is holding them above abject poverty.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
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Not all prisoners are criminals.
Not all criminals are in prison.
Until both these issues are resolved, shut the fuck up.
And Porridge, someday you might get a girlfriend.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
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Jesus, once we all agree that cutting off their hands is the way forward then we can all just move on.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
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i see the hang them for dropping litter campaign is out in force , not one of you have broke the law then?
fucking hypocrites ; so you all tell the tax man every penny you got last year, or you never broke the speed limit , every one brakes the law at one time or another
August 30th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
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Hands + Axe = Happy faces all round.
The End
August 30th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
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It’s time to move away from the argument when your spelling and grammar gets that fucked up. Or to cut off your hands.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
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I resign.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
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hand plus axe = splintered bones, good for stabbing with. as keeper of two large friendly pets, you should know all about bone splinters twenty. much more amusing would be sewing their hands together behind their backs - can still feel them as their hands wither away, much like in that film seven.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
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What’s it going to be then Porridge? State controlled abortion programme on council estates?
Get a grip.
Get a girlfriend.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
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yep, rip ‘em out with a rusty coat hanger
August 30th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
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The American stat fella did indeed point out the racial make up of the prison population.
Can’t think of his name off the top of my head but his book is called “Freakonomics.
I’m in favour of the short sword and shield Vs trident and net method meself.With Mary H. to eat the winner.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
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Hanger Queen, are you any relation to Hangar Queen?
August 30th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
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Hanger Queen the authors are Steven Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, am just reading it now. Interesting read.
I agree that the system doesn’t work too well but it’s the best we got. Rather have them locked up than wandering the streets looking for their next victim.
Nah…..maybe chopping hands off was the best idea.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
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no point in arguing with people who (a) don’t (or can’t) read your comments, or (b) don’t (or can’t)understand them, but for the record, first line, comment 36 reads “nope, no licencing, let people have as many kids as they want, just don’t reward them for doing so.”
August 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
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Cutting off their hands won’t solve the problem but cutting their fucking throats will. So that no one complains, call yourselves Communists and the world will turn a blind eye as it does with China and you can kill all of them in one fell swoop. Or — bring back the gulags and work the shit to death, better yet, just lock them in their cages and forget about them for a couple of months. All of them. As each piece of shit passes on that will make room for another to be stowed. To insure future security, put the liberal shits that cater to them in with them. Kill all the bad birds at the same time.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
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I was in Kilmainham gaol the other day and the guide described Robert Emmet as ‘one of the greatest Irishmen’. A Trinity student who spends the day firing his catapult and gets hanged for his trouble is one of the ‘greatest Irishmen’? I wonder where the fuck that leaves Parnell or James Joyce then.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
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That’s the advantage of hanging georgiasam - once the feckers are stretched they become very docile. No riots, no drug smuggling, no taking out contracts on harmless dogs who are only doing their job, earning an honest bowl of Master McGrath and a few liver treats.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
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Bloody hell, 53 posts before me and many of them have a very serious tone. Were you really advocating something like Sharia law or were you just writing under the influence of another bad hangover…?
August 30th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
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Re comment 52, there is categorically no ‘advantage of hanging georgiasam’. Just leave me to my own devices and I’ll be dead soon enough anyway.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
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Prison really does bring out the MacGyver in prisoners though, doesn’t it?
“We’ve got a problem on C wing.”
“What’s going on?”
“Seems one of them made a thermo-nuclear device out of his toothbrush, some old stones from the yard and the macaroni they had for dinner the other week.”
Bollocks. That’s nothing like McGyver. Where’s the fucking watch crystal?
August 30th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
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Solution: Chemical castration to deplete their testosterone levels.
Result: Less neanderthal behaviour and they can’t create more little clone bastards.
Mandatory 20 years for murder and 15 for GBH or serious drug dealing (not for dealing the odd 10 spot) . By sweet Jesus, that would soften their coughs when they came out.
No matter that they’d be on the dole for the rest of their lives. Their most aggressive years would be behind them, they’d produce no more offspring, and the dole would be a fuck load cheaper than keeping them in the clink.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
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the dole as a lot of you go on about , fed all you cunts in the past start living in the real world
August 30th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
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“Mandatory 20 years for murder and 15 for GBH or serious drug dealing (not for dealing the odd 10 spot) . By sweet Jesus, that would soften their coughs when they came out. ”
Ah lovely. 100 per cent estate-bottled Irish hypocrisy: Lock ‘em up for drug dealing. Except fopr the nice drug dealing that keeps me in dope. For fuck’s sake….
August 30th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
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Jaysus - they’re in prison for a fucking reason itchy — and no matter what you say, most of them ARE GUILTY. Someone who can kill someone else obviously isn’t right in the head, that doesn’t mean they should be babied in an asylum rather than putting in serious time in prison instead. They’re just twisted fuckers - not mentally ill.
Some people are just shitheads and deserve to be locked up away from those of us who actually do abide by the law (letter and spirit the fuck)
August 31st, 2007 at 12:18 am
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Bearhunter, I don’t do drugs, period. My point is that you go after and crucify the importers and ex-INLA fuckers who deal in kilos and not waste state resources on the scabby little cunts dealing in 10 spots.
So stuff the knee jerk attack up yer hole horse!
August 31st, 2007 at 12:31 am
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Fair play to you on being a drug-free zone, but it’s a pity there wasn’t more like you DB, then the vile cunts who import and sell the shit wouldn’t have any market for it. Simplistic, I know, but no more simplistic than many of the other comments on here. Instead of chopping hands off, why not just blind them instead? Far crueller in the long run and think how funny it would be to televise a gang of violent blind people rioting…..
August 31st, 2007 at 12:48 am
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I was just called a fascist because I want to kill off mongs, I also want to empty the prisons by executing law breakers, that should control any riots.
August 31st, 2007 at 5:41 am
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If 25% of The Joy are here illegally, does it take much thinking to figure out that we could relieve the prison population problem by deportation?
August 31st, 2007 at 5:44 am
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I want the last word on this.
word.
August 31st, 2007 at 11:05 am
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well your not getting it
August 31st, 2007 at 11:27 am
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Jeez Twenty - you have gathered some strange folk - Porridge and Loco Lobo both sound like a cross between Chairman Mao and Hitler. Hope they are not in politics.
August 31st, 2007 at 12:04 pm
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ha ha i got the last word in cunts ,
August 31st, 2007 at 3:05 pm
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Itchy: Where do you get your “facts?”
44% of the inmates in US prisons are Black, not 90%.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:51 pm
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Your all hippies…of with their hands. That means the cant open the doors to the dole office when they get out! Beautiful
August 31st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
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You can’t stop me.
August 31st, 2007 at 8:04 pm
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Bearhunter. If only life were so straightforward, but there’s always going to be tools looking for the next high, whether it be tea, coffee, cigs, pints, cottaging or whatever.
There will always be a demand for drugs until the penalty is strict enough to discourage it. When I see even one-horse-towns literally riddled with the sort of stuff you couldn’t get in New York 30 years ago I despair.
And for those fuck-wipes who put alcohol and cigarettes in the same basket, piss off.
Alcohol is regulated, and a constant standard, whether it be 4%, 14% or 40% proof. You know just how much you need to get shit faced and can effectively plan for it. Cigarettes will kill you, but it is going to take 20 a day over 30 -40 years.
Drugs can create very instant, very psychotic behaviour with pretty shitty side affects (permanent seratonin depletion anyone? Bueller? Anybody. Bueller?).
Advocating it’s legal distribition is all very well, but Holland has tried and not succeeded too well.
I just don’t know what the best solution is (other tahn hanging, amputation, stoning etc.etc…..)
September 1st, 2007 at 10:02 pm
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In case yee’re interested like….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
September 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pm
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