That case where that lad in Clare killed his sister is very strange.
He caved her head in with six blows from a hammer then stabbed her with a knife and scissors ninety times. He then went upstairs, wrote ‘Butcher Boy’ on the wall with his own blood that he drew from his arm with scalpel, hit himself in the head four times with a hammer and went to sleep. When he woke up the next day he tried to commit suicide again by drowning himself in the bath before giving himself up to Gardai.
Now, the mother has asked for him not to be sent to jail saying that although the whole family has a cross to bear the lad himself has the heaviest.
Okaaay, but cross to bear or not he commited a rather vicious crime. Apparently he suffers from something called ‘depersonalisation disorder’ and under new legislation he was sentenced to 6 years for manslaughter because he didn’t realise at the time what he was doing, or some such bollocks. The sentence was backdated to November 2004 so with good behaviour etc etc he’s hardly going to serve any time at all, is he?
So, what we have is a bloke who can brutally murder his own sister, then stab her dead body nearly a hundred times, wandering around the place but it’s all right. He didn’t know what he was doing!
Frankly, I’m always very suspicious of these ‘The voices made me do it’ defences. Too much fucking Law and Order and the like.
What happens to this bloke now when he gets out of jail? Does he go home? Will he have to attend psychiatric counselling? What’s to stop him murdering the rest of his family? I mean, if he is actually insane and capable of murdering his own sister what happens if someone cuts in front of him in the local shop and he flips and beats him to death with one of those big ceramic dogs that you put money in to collect money for blind people? What happens if he’s in work one day and he loses it again and randomly murders someone in the office?
Isn’t 6 years rather too little for somebody who can, apparently, go off the deep end at any time and commit acts of violence that are as savage as anything you ever hear about? Shouldn’t he be in a mental institution?
Maybe it’s just me but I can’t really make much sense of this case. I find the family’s attitude very strange and I wonder if the courts are doing as much as they can to protect people from this person as the punishment seems very lenient given the nature of the crime.
Maybe I’m getting it wrong. I’m sure the neighbours and other local residents will be delighted to have him back. You might make a few quid selling mace and Chubb locks down there though.
If he was suffering from a psychiatric disorder, why wasn’t he sectioned and all that stuff they usually do to mentallers?
The law is an ass. Always was and always will be.
I didn’t mean to say that but an uncontrollable urge came over me.
ssshhh.. They’re listening!
Which is the funnier do you think:
The ‘insanity plea’ or the ‘death bed repentence’?
That is ‘funnier’ as in morally repugnant. Me and my instinctive euphemisms.
give the fucker a new identity and a green card , send him to the U.S. where he will blend in with several million whackos , the next time he murders he’ll get community service as they will deem him to be deffo not in control
Sorry mate, it was me genes.
Iv’e read that the court took into consideration the fact that he had no previous convictions, he was lucky he never got caught riding his bicycle without a bell or a light, or they would have thrown the book at him!….
Its all very strange this getting away with murder. I see today someone is setting up a web site to help people commit suicide. The founder is someone that has attempted to kill himself a number of times so he is not very good at it.
Also can someone confirm a story that I read yesterday that a body was found in a freezer in a chip shop in Dublin. I cant find it anywhere today so maybe it was a dream or a premonition
Mc Dara, the body was found in the freezer of the mermaid fish shop in Galway last Wednesday but received little coverage because of the Greening of Fianna Fáil debacle.The body in question belonged to a Dublin drug dealer who was last seen in 2003.The question the gardai and half of the seafood restaurants in Galway want answered is, had he been sitting in the back of the freezer for four years?.Its highly likely since his car was found in the Galway/Clare area in 2003.We’ve never shopped in the Mermaid but have bought tiger prawns from their stall at the farmers market.My husband and children love seafood, I don’t. I haven’t told them yet…
I wonder did they disguise his corpse as a fish so he wouldn’t be noticed.
“Just going to get some stock, Mick”
“Right enough”
“Ok, some cod, hake, plaice, prawns, a bit of swordfish. And one day I must remember to fillet that dolphin hanging up at the back there.”
If he was sentenced for manslaughter, then he didn’t murder anybody.
He beat her round the head and in the process gave her about seven new mouths!!She’s dead, it was murder..they just commuted it to manslaughter because they wouldn’t have gotten a convition if they gone for murder, the barristers would have had him slung into the central mental hospital before they’d tagged the hammer.
Twenty…just spilled my tea laughing.
Hitting someone with your car while driving carelessly and they die is manslaughter.
Hitting someone in the head six times with a hammer then stabbing them 90 times is murder.
‘Depersonalisation disorder’ my fucking hoop.
Given the fact that the state pathologist is waiting til he thaws out before performing the post mortem do you think his mussels will take longest to de-freeze?
I just hope they’ve got him in a warm plaice.
Its just mental that no one noticed him for four years…I guess everytime they went in there to store stuff they could just seafood?
There was this case where Twenty Major wasn’t just Sarah Carey with more swearing, but that was a long time ago and won’t someone make me a nice cup of tea and think of the children?
There was this case when ben wasn’t a cunt. Oh, wait. No there wasn’t.
Being dead doesn’t make it murder. Having hammer holes and stab wounds doesn’t make it murder. Have you seen what a car does to a body? Last time I looked cars were bigger than hammers.
Murder is a legal term. You seem to be confusing it with killing. Stabbing somebody when they are already dead isn’t even killing, never mind murder.
Depersonalization Disorder is not the same as insane. If he had been judged to be insane then he would have been entitled to be acquitted on the grounds of insanity. He wasn’t acquitted.
Have you no faith in the jury? And speaking of hammers, if you tap somebody on the knee with a hammer and the leg kicks you, is the leg owner responsible for assaulting you?
I heard yer man had his trout cut before he got stashed in the freezer.
I don’t believe depersonalisation order exists. Therefore I think it’s murder.
if you tap somebody on the knee with a hammer and the leg kicks you, is the leg owner responsible for assaulting you?
No, you brought it on yourself by standing too close, you provocative fucker.
don’t know about his trout friends, but elthough the premises in question only deals in frozen fresh fish it would appear from initial examination that he’d been battered…
“If he had been judged to be insane then he would have been entitled to be acquitted on the grounds of insanity.”
Even if acquitted for being a mentalist surely the next step would have been to have him PERMANENTLY incarcerated in the CMH a la Ian Brady. Even if guilty of manslaughter we should bang up people like that for a minimum of 20 years (min 30 years for murder, 10-15 yrs for assault, persistent thieving etc)
the staff of the mermaid clammed up after the discovery – heard they were slipped a few squid…
Murder is a premeditated act. I suppose to establish this they had to find out whether he went to find a hammer in a rage to kill his sister.If so it was murder. The act of stabbing her after she was dead suggests he is mentally deranged and should be locked in an institution for the rest of his life.
Permanently incarcerated for acquittal, but 20 years for manslaughter? Interesting, Pete.
Even those who do believe Depersonalization Disorder exists (which appears to include the jury that therefore I take it you don’t have faith in) believe it to resolve itself after a certain period.
I see you’re a longhandle hammer man yourself Twenty. But what if you didn’t know the leg was going to kick you?
yes porridge, but will the owner take sole responsibility for the freezer and its contents.
Eolaí…reflexes…it’d be fairly bleeding obvious that you’d get a kick…
Littlesapling, really? That never occurred to me.
All this talk of hammers and knees is rather missing the point, isn’t it?
As soon as someone figures out what the point is perhaps they could let me know.
Does a fish with a wonky nose visit a plastic sturgeon?
Wot no cunt?
i’d say the owner would be dying to find out who (fish) fingered him
I think he should spend a long time locked up with his ‘Depersonalization Disorder’ regardless of what he went down for.Whether he was ‘aware’ or not, he brutally murdered someone, the fact that it was his sister is even more horrific.I’m noe fortune teller but I can see a lot of business for the local autioneer when he gets out..
It’s not the first time I’ve heard of a blokes from Claire nailing their sisters. But I’m pretty sure the others didn’t use a hammer.
it’s all about research. spend some time looking up convenient transient psychological disorders, make sure you have the name of a good (read gullible) psychologist and go for it.
reminds me of that movie primal fear where edward norton is an altar boy kills the local bishop for kicks and then pretends he’s a nutjob.
the great thing is that although these “disorders” do exist (at least in the minds of psychologists), they are transient and no one can tell for sure whether you have them or not, so just read up, kill some one and act out your chosen disorder for a while. where’s my chainsaw?
A reflex kick does not involve intention in the mind of the kicker.
Brutality, sister, and horrific, aren’t enough to convict somebody of murder. If they were, I’d be in jail. And my sister isn’t even dead.
The more you close your mind to medical progress, and just lock up people forever because you don’t want to understand or believe in illnesses, the more innocent dead people you end up with. We used to lock up people for epilepsy.
I’d like to know more about what went on prior to him beating her over the head with a hammer,He claims to have been tired from the weekend drinking, to be embarrased about getting sick in front of friends and to getting bored at work. So far he sounds normal.
He then went home on the night after work had dinner watched the Office and then nbeat his sisters brains in. There is some thing missing?
As I dont beleive that the office can make someone flip, Gervais is not that ugly.
I wonder is there more to the sister brother relationship than came out in court ? Then again I am sure this was checked.
And the next time Im in Galway I wont be eating fish as if they didnt find him for four years some of the fish is there a long time.
But the seafood one from littlesapling has had me laughing all morning.
I hope they give him a good wash before Marie cassidy has a look see..what if he had crabs….?
I think we’re looking at a warped family situation here.. The parents have lost their daughter but seem more concerned that they could lose their son.. It’s all a bit weird when you consider that HE killed THEIR daughter…
I’m a bit confused. There is a law in The Netherlands where mental derained people, like this chap, that either rape, kill, stalk, kidnap or whatever can be put “under supervision of the state” this means the person will be sentenced to this punishment by law. He/She will be in mental care until doctors say that the patients mental state is normal enough to have a normal life and is not threatening to society anymore. This can take years and years. Isn’t there something like this in Ireland at all?
@ national disgrace. Maybe send the parents a complementry album of Phil Collins’ “You’re no son of mine”.
National, I think that has a lot to do with his sentence..the family asked for lenience…I honestly don’t know what I’d do in their shoes..I think I’d do one thing but maybe I’d do another?…I do know I wouldn’t want him out and about after a couple of years with no treatment..and I’s always be nervous everytime there was a re-run of the office on the box
Daniel, there is. Its called probation.
medical doctors and psychologists are two different things. as are epilepsy and depersonalisation disorder, eolai. not saying that they don’t exist, just that it’s a lot harder to fake epilepsy than it is to fake deperson etc.
maybe the family are chinese – seem to have less use for girls than boys
Twenty for some reason I trust DSM-IV-TR more then I trust your opinion. Also may I add that Hollywood is not the most reliable source to build up our knowledge of either the legal system or mental health.
MacDara I’m not 100% sure but I think what happened was that he was trying to commit suicide and the sister tried to stop him.
Hey, the dude was a little upset, alright? This kidn a shit happens…Even his mother thought it was nothing to fuss about. I wonder how she defines a big deal. No wait, I don`t wanna know.
how many people have you heard of trying to commit “suicide” with a hammer?
To Mark “I’m not 100% sure but I think what happened was that he was trying to commit suicide and the sister tried to stop him.”
That was definitely NOT the case.I don’t know if you saw any of the reporting on this killing but he stated himself that when he killed his sister he was not trying to commit suicide.
Daniel, there is something like it in Ireland. The judge turned down the family’s request for leniency because he was found guilty with diminished responsibility not no responsibilty.
Ireland has little history in applying this sort of law so for sentencing looked to persuasive examples in the UK. He did get 6 years. He is no longer considered a danger to society but is being sentenced as punishment for his responsibility in killing his sister.
“He is no longer considered a danger to society ”
Would you agree with that Eolaí?.
He definitely shouldn’t be let out that early.
He’s obviously a total nutcase.
So whats the answer? a few years in a mental hospital, some treatment and let him out?
Like twenty says, how can anyone be sure he won’t crack again. Take the safe option – lock him up and throw away the key.
Or kill him, disguise him as a dolphin and sell him to the Mermaid
Yeah, prison is so going to make him less likely to do it again. Right.
he would find it difficult to do it if he was locked up
ye couldn’t do that Peadar sure that freezer compartment is obviously packed the whole time.he’s be like a bleeding sardine..although the hammer would be a dead giveaway……
seems that in people with depersonalisation disorder (DD), reality testing is intact – are not insane and know what they are doing. and any disorder that uses a self administered test to measure its effect (dissociative experiences scale) doesn’t really lend itself to a diminished responsibility plea. from wikipedia “while a nuisance, and very distressing to the patient, people with depersonalization disorder represent no risk to society, since their grasp on reality remains intact.”
littlesapling – may be he could be sold as a hammerhead
I think it’s safe to assume that guy in the mermaid won his game of hide and seek then??
Galway mafia jargon:
“He sleeps with the fishfingers.”
you have to admire his ability to keep cool in a crisis…
Do Health Inspectors not venture into storage areas, such as this freezer room in Galway, at all.
Thats just a cod, they have a chat with the owner and pocket the free dolphin once he’s sworn on his sole that there’s nothing fishy going on and presto! he’s off the hook!
Health Inspectors don’t venture into Galway
Galway mafia jargon:
“He sleeps with the fishfingers.”
But why Lung?…surely he was a [mer]maid man?
Littlesapling, I can accept the jury’s decision which was to accept Depersonalization Disorder as the cause for diminished responsibility as a defence.
I’m prepared to trust the system that at least tries to understand DD and would be very much against the simplistic reactionary nonsense of locking him up and throwing away the key.
Yes, I’d buy a house in his neighbourhood.
Porridge, you might have a look at the DSM rather than Wikipedia.
Health inspector – ‘whats that big frozen body shaped lump in the back of your freezer’
Mermaid owner – ‘our catch of the day, fillet of drugdealer’
Eolaí, you are entitled to your opinion.I disagree with you on some things but *shakes hands* but there you go.You say Depersonalization Disorder, I say killer who should at least receive some hardcore treatment before being ejected out onto the streets of Clare..does he have any more sisters?
‘Yes, I’d buy a house in his neighbourhood’
ye right
“I’m prepared to trust the system that at least tries to understand DD and would be very much against the simplistic reactionary nonsense of locking him up and throwing away the key.”
If that what it takes to protect the public from the cnut that’s what needs to happen. But of course protecting the public is not the function of our legal system according to do-gooders like you. You seem to view it as a counselling/support system for criminal scum. Unfortunately too many people in the legal profession have this attitude also. However the people who pay their wages want to see less “understanding” and more condemnation & punishment.
eolai – from dpselfhelp.com, under the heading relief on the main page:
“Patients must strive for experiences that allow them to re-engage as actors in the drama of their own lives rather than clutching fearfully to the role of observer. Cognitive-behavioral therapy can help sufferers to modify their conscious thinking patterns and reinstate spontaneity of feeling and thought”
seeing as symptoms seem to intense self-scrutiny and a lack of ability to engage emotionally, maybe what he was trying to do was get better, do you think? connect with himself, and using a hammer, with others?
I was at the scene in Galway, it was terrible, there was brood all over the plaice.
so much for the scales of justice
go way, your codding
Clare. Brendan O’Donnell. QED.
As for the stiff in Galway, I thawt he was just chilling out.
I may be just fishing but I hope the gardai checked the freezer out thoroughly to make sure there wasn’t a shoal of Dublin drug dealers in there, I mean have all of his mates been accounted for?
Again at a time like this we should maybe spare a thought for the deceased, at 52 he still had some life left to live..sure he was only a snapper.I feel a little shellfish for joking about this.
whoever put him on ice was a stone cold killer. at least the cops now have some fresh evidence in the case.
I’m just going to tun[a] into the news at one to see if there are any developments..while I’m at it I might check my freezer..I haven’t seen the cat for a day or so…
the gardai are now trawling for clues. i think they’re out of their depth again
A victim of the Codfather found battered to death and deep frozen in Paddy Ramsdens.
Peadar, how can we be sure you won’t crack? Should we take the safe option and just lock you up forever?
Maybe if you weren’t so in fear of what you don’t want to understand you’d buy a cheap house there yourself?
Fragrant, where did I say that I believe protecting the public is not the function of our legal system? Because, for the record, I do believe it’s one of the primary functions. Rather than the knee-jerk reaction of throwing away keys I believe in not ignoring illnesses though, specifically to protect the public from them.
Nor did I say he shouldn’t be locked up or receive any treatment. I simply said that killing is not the same as murder, which is not the same as manslaughter. And treating them all as the same devalues the victims, and is a serious backward step for civilization.
Porridge, wasn’t his plan to use the hammer on himself first – which he then did after killing his sister?
Twenty, sorry – I’ve been trying to think of something funny all night. I’ll try harder.
Porridge, wasn’t his plan to use the hammer on himself first – which he then did after killing his sister?
He’s got Backwards Suicide Disorder©!
i’m not fully aware of the facts but from these comments it seems that a merman battered his sister to death with a hammer, stabbed her numerous times and was sentenced to six years in a freezer. he’s recently been found and the guards are unsure whether or not he is a risk to society. all the while the unconcerned public are simply delighted at the range and posssibilty for fish related jokes.
‘Peadar, how can we be sure you won’t crack? Should we take the safe option and just lock you up forever?’
Thats a stupid argument Eolai.
I haven’t killed someone with a hammer and then stabbed them 90 times
You make some valid points but what this guy done, to his own sister for fucks sake, is off the scale.
by the way that fishy smell has been traced to my next door neighbour, who’s a real cunt (i’m making room in my freezer)
unless it was a pneumatic hammer or it was made from nitroglycerin, it’s highly unlikely that anyone would try to kill themselves with a hammer. he did have a knife and scissors to hand, remember?
dd doesn’t make people go mad, doesn’t make them unrational, and does tend to immobilise them. i’m quite sure than none of the jury knew any more about this disorder than i did before this morning, and they’re making decisions as to whether he sould be allowed out to play with people again?
if the reason for a crime is psychological, fine, don’t send them to prison, but do lock them up somewhere under psych assessment and supervision. fair to them (they get help) and safer for us (less loons on the street).
i think hammerboy did it on porpoise and this disorder thing is a red herring. he skated out from under the charges as the prosecution floundered in the murky waters of psychiatry.
Prime example of the Irish mammy – her boy can do no wrong, and please God don’t send him to jail. I personally would send him to death roe – oops, mixing him up with the freezer stiff.
No fair minded reasonable person will kill somebody with a hammer then stab them 90 times. Therefore he must be unstable and therefore must be locked away so that the streets are safe for people to walk along…surely?
Is it true the stiff was a tope dealer?
Or a loan shark?
I heard it was a hake crime.
Dale, you’re taking something that has happened in the past and applying it to his present condition. Three years ago I ate a lot of food, therefore I must be very hungry today?
He is being locked away. And nobody has ever claimed that what he did to his sister was the act of a fair-minded reasonable person.
Peader, the point of the argument is that you can go on forever with the what if somebody kills again argument – and that makes a case for anybody who has ever killed – even driving carelessly in Twenty’s manslaughter book – never being released.
he was only small fry
He was krilled with kindness…
Thanks Littlesapling
had a sad background – started dealing while living rough as a street urchin
did i get the hunredth comment! doh!
I was reading more about the Fish shop , it seems that and I quote
“Gardaí have said they are treating as suspicious the death of a man whose body was found in a freezer”
Yes I can jsut see the discussion, Well Sgt,I dont know if suspicious is the word, it could be laziness now, I mean he could have just crawled in their for a sleep, Its been know to happen around this neck of the woods.
sorry Mark, I probably came across as an old crab there..
‘Three years ago I ate a lot of food, therefore I must be very hungry today?’
WHAT THE FUCK?
What he done is mind boggling in its savagery.
You can’t take chances with someone that is capable of what he did
McDara, that should read “Galway restaurants have said they are treating as suspicious the Rizla papers found in all haddock pies bought from The mermaid fish shop on Henry Street”
Ah Littlesapling I wasn’t being sarcastic (which looking at my reply may have seemed the case) As I said I wasn’t 100% certain and I’ve no problem with someone providing the actual facts.
i hope they are treating the fish with something, preferrably disinfectant. this wouldn’t have happened up in donegal. they’d have put him in a filing cabinet.
*winks*
Peader, you’re okay with taking chances with careless car drivers who have killed though?
actually macdara, it could be that he was tring to get away, hid in the freezer and barracuded the door
No, I’d ban them from driving.
Don’t come back with something stupid like –
‘well then he should be banned from using a hammer or sissors’
Re: The Sister killer: This temporary derangment loophole is ridiculous. You can seperate the crime into two fields in my opinion, an act of madness and an act of murder. He should be tried as a murderer, but given special treatment as a mental case. Give him life, but reverse suspend it in such a way that if after 6-10 years of prision/mental assesment he is deemed to have ‘recovered’, then let him go. If not, or if still deemed dangerous, then he continues to serve his term.
We’ve all had rows with people and said thing really stupid. Some of us have even lashed out at people in the past too and instantly regretted it. If that’s considered temporarilly insane, then does that make us all innocent? We should go French, and in obvious cases like this, Guilty UNTIL proven innocent.
By the way, did you know that it’s impossible to strangle yourself?? Maybe the same applies to hammers. I’d certainly stop after the first whack
So you’d trust that somebody capable of driving a car so carelessly that they don’t obey the “don’t knock people down and kill them rule”, would actually obey a driving ban?
A system of justice is about taking risks. However long you withold whatever freedom from a convicted criminal, when you release them again from that punishment you take a risk. I’d rather take a risk armed with education rather than ignorance.
He must have seen the sun and thought that the world was coming to an end and didn’t want his sister to suffer. Compassionate fucker he was.
Eolai, your not comparing like with like.
I consider myself a safe and good driver, and while I’ve never killed anyone I have made mistakes.
Maybe you haven’t, maybe your a perfect driver.
But I’m sure the majority of drivers can remember at least once when they’ve done something stupid.
Like overtaking when you shouldn’t and just barely getting back to your own side of the road.
The combination of fear and relief when you realise you were just seconds from a head on collision.
This has happened to me and I’m sure most other drivers. I learned from it.
However, I’ve never found myself with a hammer in my hand and realised that I was just seconds from beating someone to death only to avoid it at the last minute
“actually macdara, it could be that he was tring to get away, hid in the freezer and barracuded the door”
Ahahahahahahaha, oh Porridge, you are a one.
However, I’ve never found myself with a hammer in my hand and realised that I was just seconds from beating someone to death only to avoid it at the last minute
You haven’t lived, man…
Apologies for butting in, but ive been reading this post all day.
“So you’d trust that somebody capable of driving a car so carelessly that they don’t obey the “don’t knock people down and kill them rule”, would actually obey a driving ban?”
Is everyone not capable of driving carelessly? very few are capable of taking a hammer to their family.
Peadar, I’m not talking about safe and good drivers like yourself who have made mistakes, I’m talking about careless drivers who are convicted killers by way of manslaughter.
That’s a comparison of manslaughter with manslaughter. And with it, as with all crime, goes the difficult question of when to take a chance on releasing a person already proven to be capable of their crime.
And speaking of questions, you didn’t answer mine:
So you’d trust that somebody capable of driving a car so carelessly that they don’t obey the “don’t knock people down and kill them rule”, would actually obey a driving ban?
Sheepworrier, yes they are but the question actually was so carelessly that they don’t obey the “don’t knock people down and kill them rule” – in this context, as mentioned first by Twenty, we’re talking about manslaughter not a dodgy piece of parallel parking.
Whatever way you want to go around it there’s a big fucking difference between careless driving and outright brutality.
Its all kicking off on here!
I’m not saying they’re the same – even if the law does sometimes (manslaughter is manslaughter, you seem very forgiving of the casual nature and brutality of the mishandling of a motor vehicle) – I’m saying in both situations you have to make a decision on whether you want to take chances on how you treat a person capable of doing whichever crime they committed.
Maybe you’re fine with a careless killer who you believe won’t ever be careless to that extent a second time. I’d rather take my chances with the hammer-wielding killer who I believe was mentally ill when he did his killing.
And speaking of questions, you didn’t answer mine:
So you’d trust that somebody capable of driving a car so carelessly that they don’t obey the “don’t knock people down and kill them rule”, would actually obey a driving ban?
I don’t know to be honest, but your making it sound like there are people who drive around knocking down people on purpose.
I only do that when I go for a spin through a halting site
I only do that when I go for a spin through a halting site
heh
No Peader I’m not, that’s why I’m calling it manslaughter and not murder.
It’s looking like I’d rather be killed by a hammer, and you’d rather be killed by a car? Maybe we’ll both get killed by Jan Hammer driving a car.
Careless driving
Reckless driving
Dangerous driving
Tis very confusing to the ordinary man in the street.
Maybe we’ll both get killed by Jan Hammer driving a car.
Now that’d be cool. Theme from Miami Vice blaring, of course.
Eolai, ha ha
We’ll have to agree to disagree
Done deal. Cheers
“I only do that when I go for a spin through a halting site”
Falling down laughing as I make chicken pie…it was going to be haddock pie but I don’t think thats a good idea at the moment.
I hear the shop owners and workers were brought in for Questioning , their lawyers said the police are just fishing for clues.
Thats taken me all day to think up . Very slow
Gardai have just released a mugshot of the porpoise pusher…http://migrant-isitjustme.blogspot.com/2007/06/mugshot-of-body-found-in-galway-fridge.html
bet the dealer’s car was a scubaru
…the bit they did not tell you is that the ‘clare hammer murderer’ did indeed have a record of violence, but thanks to our ‘fantastic’ law it could not be mentioned, plus the fact that the cases did not go to court….rumour is there was money involved. He beat up someone really bad at a wedding for just looking at him (it was the drink that ‘made him do it’) and then attacked a woman who was walking home from work. He asked her for sex, she laughed at him so he punched her in the face and bit her ear! Luckily someone stopped him. I think it was ‘the drugs’ that time.
and we have to live with him when he does come out. Its just messed up.
Ahh feck!!! Looks like I missed a load of craic here. Ah well there’s always tomorrow.
Why did the fish cross the road?
Coz somebody threw it!